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Title: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Liza115 on Sunday 26 April 20 01:46 BST (UK)
After finding that my local library is providing access to ancestry.com library edition during NZ's lockdown, I went to the National Library of New Zealand website, to see if maybe they were making available other e-resources I have used in person there.
I was hoping to find free access to British Newspaper Archives, my first choice, but alas, no. However, they do offer remote access during lockdown to the Times digital archive and Telegraph historical archive. The Times has been useful in the past, but I haven't looked at it much lately.
The website says you need to contact the National Library for a password to get access. I have emailed them with this request, but so far have only been sent the two URLs (for Times and Telegraph link access) where I need to submit a password.
Has anyone managed to access these resources remotely through the natlib.govt.nz site?
If so, how did you do it?
Liza115   
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Craclyn on Sunday 26 April 20 09:29 BST (UK)
Try checking to see if your library will give you free access to Findmypast during lockdown. The BNA records are available on FindMyPast.
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Liza115 on Sunday 26 April 20 13:07 BST (UK)
Craclyn, unfortunately my local library doesn't have a subscription to findmypast. It was a good thought, though.
Really I was just looking at what was being made freely available at a distance that is usually subscriber only. Also feeling a bit frustrated that I haven't been able to work out how to use the access that the National Library has offered. Maybe my third email to them asking for assistance will get a useful response. I live in hope!
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: HughC on Sunday 26 April 20 13:34 BST (UK)
I think Findmypast has reduced search options for the BNA, and probably degraded images as well.

Until the end of this month you can buy a year's subscription to the BNA for £56, a saving of 30%.  I'm still debating whether to take up the offer.
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 26 April 20 13:43 BST (UK)
Surely as BNA & FindMyPast images are both under the FindMyPast banner the images should be the same.  :-\

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
At the bottom of that page
2020 Findmypast Newspaper Archive Limited - Proudly presented by Findmypast in partnership with the British Library

I think at one point the images were always on BNA before F M P  but not sure if this is still true.

As for library access to the Times, in the UK we go in via our library website and then use our library card number to access the newspaper
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: majm on Sunday 26 April 20 14:50 BST (UK)
I am in NSW Australia and I know that at least here in NSW that many of the Universities have had online access to those historic  newspapers for their students for many years...  Perhaps your NZ Unis have similar access ...Fingers crossed you will know a rellie who is a current student.  :)

The e-resources at both the NSW State Library in Sydney and the National Library  in Canberra also provide no charge access to the 'Gale' historic newspapers, but you need to qualify residentially for those Library cards...  Do you have rellies across the Tasman over here?  :)

Fingers crossed you will have NZ National Library response very soon.  :)

JM
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 26 April 20 15:08 BST (UK)
The eresources that you can access with a password are here and includes the British Library Newspapers.

https://natlib.govt.nz/collections/a-z/subscription-e-resources

You will just have to keep on asking for a password, perhaps include the link to that page so they know what you are talking about.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: majm on Sunday 26 April 20 15:17 BST (UK)
Aghhhh...

If you keep scrolling through the link Debra has given,  way past the BNA password option,  .... keep scrolling,  scroll a tad more .... there is possibly just the one you want,  without needing a password from the library.  ADD ... you use your email and you decide on a unique password for your access to that site.

JM
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Fresh Fields on Sunday 26 April 20 22:46 BST (UK)
Thanks for your post JM.

What a great list of resourses, and an easy on the eye presentation. Trust a Aussie to know of it.

I was about to advise that they can be accessed through membership of our Genealogy Society.

Alan.
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Liza115 on Sunday 26 April 20 22:55 BST (UK)
Hi all
Thanks for putting your minds to work for me on this one. I already had a login for the National library of NZ, so I can log in to the library site, but when I get to the URL that Debra posted, it asks for a password and won't accept mine, so there must be another step I have missed.
I think I got off on the wrong foot by sending my first request for a password from a different email address than the one I have registered at the library.
I will be patient today, since it is officially a long weekend, and all those working from home will be at home but not working. I hope to communicate with the library more satisfactorily tomorrow.
Thanks for your ideas.
Liza115





Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 28 April 20 21:58 BST (UK)
Hi Liza, did you solve this?

After your post I applied for a password to Prover which I have received this morning, but it doesn’t work.

And my brother who also applied has received the email implying they have given him a password, but there is no password!

Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: Liza115 on Tuesday 28 April 20 22:50 BST (UK)
Hi Mckha489
Yes, the response to my (third) email included a password from the National Library, which let me into the sites.
I think part of the problem is that when you get a reply from them, it says not to reply to it, but to use a link through their contacts page. I ended up having correspondence with three different people. Here's how I would do it, knowing what I know now:
1. Email the national library at the 'information' address. This is at the top of the page with the links to all the e-resources. If you already have a reader card, quote the number on it and the email address associated with it. Use the email associated with your reader card. They will check to make sure you are registered and should then provide a password.
2. If you have not registered with them before (you do not have a reader card), you have to register online and then email them to ask for a password. Tell them you have registered and supply them with your user name. Use the email associated with your registration.
3. If their first response doesn't provide a password, quote the reference number of their reply in the subject line when you try again, so they can see that they didn't provide a password, and ask again, politely, for a password.
4. Use the password they provide to get access to the site.
Be patient. They are working from home after all, and it's harder to stay in the loop.

What is Prover? Is it an identification verifier like the NZ government's RealMe system?
It sounds like this remote access is going to be temporary, just during lockdown.
Good luck!

   
Title: Re: Access to Times digital archive through National Library of NZ
Post by: mckha489 on Tuesday 28 April 20 22:54 BST (UK)
Right! I will try. Thank you.

Prover is land information

http://www.prover.co.nz/