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Title: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: JACK GEE on Saturday 09 May 20 11:34 BST (UK)
Hello troops trying to find offspring of a William Cecil who was born in Kenilworth, Montgomeryshire ( or Skenfrith) about 1810. He seems to have come to Australia (Melbourne) about 1853. He had a number of sons including Thomas (1839-1912), William Alfred (1843-1902), Philip (1848-1866), and Charles Henry (1852-1928) all of whom died in Victoria. Efforts thru trove have been scanty.
Cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 09 May 20 12:10 BST (UK)

Using BDM Victoria index, the sons you have named have death records with mother Theresa COLES.


This death certificate will have good information about her origins, her marriage and her chidren.

9142/1871  CECIL  Theresa   parents  Ester / Coles Thomas  spouse CECIL, William
died at WARW  age 56


The Argus 22 Nov 1871 p8
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5857201?

THE Friends of Mr. WILLIAM CECIL.....his late wife.... Melbourne General
Cemetery..... residence of her son-in-law, Mr. J. M Quade, 26 Grattan-street, Carlton,
THIS DAY, at 1 o'clock.

Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 09 May 20 12:41 BST (UK)

VIV BDM marriage
610/1869  CECIL Helen   marr. MCQUADE, John

death
4793/1916  MCQUADE Helen  parents  Helen COLE / Mcquade Cecil Wm
died  Brswck  age 69
(born ~ 1837)

Census 1851 at 47 Regent St Leamington Priors Warwickshire
CECIL William    40y                           b. Skenfrith Monmouthshire
CECIL Theresa   35y                           b. Southam Warwickshire
CECI  Theresa   10y    dau                  b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Wm          7y   son                   b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Helen        4y   dau                   b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Philip        2y    dau                   b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Augusta M 1y    dau                   b. Leamington Warwickshire
COES Esther       27y   visitor              b. Southam Warwickshire

(I cannot read the occupation for William CECIL) 



Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 09 May 20 13:07 BST (UK)

VIV BDM marriage
610/1869  CECIL Helen   marr. MCQUADE, John

death
4793/1916  MCQUADE Helen  parents  Helen COLE / Mcquade Cecil Wm
died  Brswck  age 69
(born ~ 1837)

Census 1851 at 47 Regent St Leamington Priors Warwickshire
CECIL William    40y                           b. Skenfrith Monmouthshire
CECIL Theresa   35y                           b. Southam Warwickshire
CECI  Theresa   10y    dau                  b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Wm          7y   son                   b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Helen        4y   dau                   b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Philip        2y    dau                   b. Reading Berkshire
CECIL Augusta M 1y    dau                   b. Leamington Warwickshire
COES Esther       27y   visitor              b. Southam Warwickshire

(I cannot read the occupation for William CECIL)

1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRC-4TP

1851, it just says employing 3 men for occupation: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZY-KTM

Jun 1838 Southam 16 467
CECIL William
COLES Theresa

No son Thomas.

CECIL, THERESA mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 219
Marriage: 3731/1862 TREVENA Henry
Death: 1562/1913 at Fitzroy North
Children:
23168/1863 Theresa Cecil - unmarried - died 14083/1893
4991/1867 Ellen Augusta Elizth - unmarried - died 2054/1943
18968/1869 Frances Cecil - unmarried - died 5568/1941
12379/1874 William Henry - died 12086/1874
5193/1880 Hy Cecil - married 1037/1907 Ethel ARCHER - died 12013/1949
TREVENA/ARCHER children:
10395/1907 Hy Cecil
10618/1909 Herbt Forrester - died 10153/1953
TREVENA Herbert F Death notice 9-9-1953 Death at Brunswick The Age (Melbourne) 12-9-1953
12255/1913 Jno Jospeh
TREVENA John Joseph (Jack) Death notice 4-9-1991 Publication The Age (Melbourne) 4-9-1991
19059/1919 Stanley Wm
TREVENA STANLEY WILLIAM : Service Number - V38109 : Date of birth - 01 Jul 1919 : Place of birth - FITZROY VIC : Place of enlistment - AREA 29A VIC : Next of Kin - TREVENA HENRY

CECIL, WILLIAM mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1843  J Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 222
Died: 15052/1902 CECIL Wm at MELTON

CECIL, ALFRED mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 280
Death: CECIL, ALFRED  1 
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 176

CECIL, HELEN mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 260
Married: 610/1869 MCQUADE John
Died: 4793/1916 at BRUNSWICK
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2105319

CECIL, PHILIP mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 238
Death: 8458/1866

CECIL, AUGUSTA  MARY mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1850  J Quarter in WARWICK UNION  Volume 16  Page 616
Unmarried
Died: 3584/1918

CECIL, CHARLES  HENRY mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in WARWICK UNION  Volume 06D  Page 422
Death: 265/1928 at BALWYN

6150/1859 CECIL Albert Leicester
Died: 727/1878

VIC deaths:

8877/1912 Thos at BRUNSWICK

Jamjar

Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: JACK GEE on Saturday 09 May 20 14:04 BST (UK)
Thanks all - great leads.
Too much to dream that one of William Cecil descendants to find this thread.

Cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 09 May 20 14:16 BST (UK)
Arrived on GREAT BRITAIN 11 August 1853
William 45 an ironmonger
Thomas 14
William 10

Arrived on HOTSPUR 30 June 1957
Theresa Snr
Theresa
Helen
Philip
Augusta
Charles

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: judb on Sunday 10 May 20 02:03 BST (UK)
His probate papers, will and inventory are digitised.

William CECIL, farmer, of Oak Farm, near Melton Victoria, died 15 June 1882

Deposition names his children:
Thomas, William, Charles and Augusta CECIL, Theresa TREVENA, Helen McQUADE

He leaves most of his estate to be divided equally among his children with extra provision to Helen McQUADE  'on account of her great kindness to me and because she has a large family to support'.

https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/wills-and-probates

Judith
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: judb on Sunday 10 May 20 02:11 BST (UK)
An obit for him
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89688714

Death Notice
CECIL. —On the 16th inst., of paralysis, William Cecil, of Oak Farm, Melton, grandson of the Rev. Mr. Cecil of Skinfrith, Monmouthshire, England, aged 72 years. Home papers please copy.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11545128

Judith
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 10 May 20 02:40 BST (UK)
CECIL, HELEN mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1846  D Quarter in READING  Volume 06  Page 260
Married: 610/1869 MCQUADE John
Died: 4793/1916 at BRUNSWICK
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2105319

I can’t access VICBDM at the mo.

From husband John’s probate application, of 1885 (he died 31-8-1879), the McQuabe children are, and from Helen’s death notice, the girls are Mrs W Key and Mrs A McPhail. William is in WA:

James Cecil - married 1899 GARNER Florence Elizabeth
Marriage, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article138616684
303/809
St Kilda Cemetery Independent, Compartment C, Grave 7X
McQUADE Florence Elizabeth 29 August 1933
McQUADE James Cecil 21 December 1938
James C MCQUADE Date of grant: 01 Apr 1939; Date of death: 20 Dec 1938; Occupation: Manufacturer; Residence: Camberwell
PHYSICAL ITEM Not yet digitised
DATE:1938
SERIES:Wills
AGENCY:Master of the Supreme Court
CITATION:VPRS 7591/ P2  unit 1070,  item 303/809

303/809
James C MCQUADE Date of grant: 01 Apr 1939; Date of death: 20 Dec 1938; Occupation: Manufacturer; Residence: Camberwell
PHYSICAL ITEM Not yet digitised
DATE:1938
SERIES:Probate and Administration Files
AGENCY:Registrar of Probates, Supreme Court
CITATION:VPRS 28/ P3  unit 3211,  item 303/809
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6W39-PXH?i=405&cc=1393345&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJVH7-548
Child: 1900 Lillian Ellie - married Stuart Kitchener Andrews - died 1973 (needs to be verified whe VICBDM is working)
Springvale Botanical Cemetery - cremation
ANDREWS Stuart Kitchener 13 June 1961
ANDREWS Lillian Ellie 23 July 1973

William Henry

Alberta Cecilia - married KEY William John - died 26-4-1931
William died: 11-3-1949
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-677Q-32H?i=264&cc=1393345&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJV65-44C
Death notice, William, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205357734
Fawkner Memorial Park Church Of England O, Grave 2791
KEY Alberta Cecilia 28 April 1931 age 54
KEY William John 15 March 1949 age 76
Children:
1904 Ernest Oliver Cecil
Christening: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCC-SX9
Fawkner Memorial Park Presbyterian E, Grave 615
KEY Ernest Oliver 23 August 1972 age 67
KEY Gladys M 31 October 1960 age 52
Stella
Edna - married PAWSON Patrick Vincent
Death notice, Edna: https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/pawson-edna-elle/3650350/
PAWSON Patrick Vincent Death notice 8-1-1976 Death at Chelsea Hospital, late of Chelsea The Age (Melbourne) 9-1-1976
Patrick: https://billiongraves.com/grave/PATRICK-VINCENT-PAWSON/4261234   

Augusta Mary Cecil - married McPHAIL Alexander
Fawkner Memorial Park Protestant D, Grave 554
McPHAIL Augusta Mary 14 April 1966 age 88

John George
556/770
John George MCQUADE Date of grant: 22 Jul 1960; Date of death: 06 May 1960; Occupation: Retired; Residence: E Brunswick
PHYSICAL ITEM Not yet digitised
DATE:1960
SERIES:Wills
AGENCY:Master of the Supreme Court
CITATION:VPRS 7591/ P3  unit 329,  item 556/770

556/770
John George MCQUADE Date of grant: 22 Jul 1960; Date of death: 06 May 1960; Occupation: Retired; Residence: E Brunswick
PHYSICAL ITEM Not yet digitised
DATE:1960
SERIES:Probate and Administration Files
AGENCY:Registrar of Probates, Supreme Court
CITATION:VPRS 28/ P4  unit 2103,  item 556/770
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68NG-L5?i=588&cc=1393345&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJVH1-RMW

The family on FamilySearch, not all correct though, ie the father’s death: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/K8RK-H7P/augusta-mary-cecil-mcquade-1877-1966

Jamjar




Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 10 May 20 03:15 BST (UK)
The 1857 passenger list for Hotspur shows the ages of the children with Theresa snr aged 47
Theresa 16, Helen 10, Philip 8, Augusta 7, Charles 5.

The occupation for Theresa looks like "keeping a school"

Sue
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: JACK GEE on Sunday 10 May 20 12:16 BST (UK)
Hello Family Diggers - great stuff.
The next step is for those that have access to Electoral Rolls.
The following descendants of William Cecil bc.1810 with a need to locate the next generation.
Charles Henry Cecil b.1852. died 1928 BALWYN
Augusta Mary Cecil McQuade married 1907 BALACLAVA Alexander McPhail.
Edna Elle Key.died 2003 buried GOLD COAST m.Patrick Vincent Pawson.died 1976  CHELSEA.
Helen Cecil died 1916 BRUNSWICK  married John McQuade.
Thomas William Cecil died 1912 BRUNSWICK
William Alfred Cecil died 1902 MELTON
[father William Cecil also died 1882 in MELTON]
Arthur Cecil born CARLTON 1883.
Edith Ruth Cecil died 1940 in CAMBERWELL [& buried there]
George Cyril Cecil born 1894. lived in carramar Ave CAMBERWELL in 1940

Cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 10 May 20 13:25 BST (UK)
I don’t understand your last post, Jack. What is it you want?

What is the source of your information?

Children of Thomas and Mary:

All about Edith Ruth Cecil: https://emhs.org.au/person/cecil/edith_ruth
Did not marry.
Funeral, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11315970
Probate, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11307544
Burwood Cemetery Roman Catholic 7, Grave 275
CECIL Edith Ruth age 52
CECIL Mabel Glady age 56
Funeral: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205172440
Probate, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205178561

George Cyril and wife at Box Hill Cemetery: http://www.boxhillcemetery.com.au/search/
Cecil   George Cyril RC-172-0035 20-12-1956
Cecil   Lillian Maude RC-172-0035 17/10/1949
George, death and funeral notices, type 9 in small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19561219&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Lillian, death and funeral notices, 1st and 4th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article22785851

Edith Ruth military record: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3223473

George military record: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3223480

Some of their siblings:

Phillip Howard:
Death and funeral notices, type 10 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19680517&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

Sister Mary Hilda (this is Hilda Mary):
Death and funeral notices, type 14 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19590318&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
https://billiongraves.com/grave/M-Hilda-Cecil/25027969

Sister Mary Justina:
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Dismas-Binns/11591383

Arthur Philip:
Probate, 4th last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71666284
Box Hill Cemetery
Cecil   Arthur Philip RC-180-0015 29-7-1954

It’s 12:27pm, Monday, and VICBDM ‘unplanned outage’ still not rectified.

Jamjar





Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: judb on Sunday 10 May 20 13:41 BST (UK)
Jack Gee, now you have some actual death dates you can probably use Trove to find some death notices which may include names of the next generations. Roots chat policy doesn't allow mention of the names of people who are still alive so it might not be possible for us to post them here for you.

Judith
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 11 May 20 04:15 BST (UK)
Another from your list:

Marriage: 679/1875 CECIL William Alfred to BLACKWOOD Christina

15052/1902 William Alfred Cecil
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article9071582
Probate on PROV.
Wife: 4513/1921 Christina CECIL Date of grant: 31 May 1921; Date of death: 03 May 1921; Occupation: Widow; Residence: Mid Brighton
Melton Cemetery: http://www.ozgenonline.com/~Carols_Headstones/Melton.htm

Children mentioned in her will:

1876 William Alexander CECIL - married Ann - died 1959
Death and funeral notices, type 9 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19590224&printsec=frontpage&hl=en

1878 Ada Mary PITTMAN - died 1949
Death notice, 2nd page: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19490305&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Ada Mary PITTMAN Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 2 March 1949

1880 Eveline Annie WAUGH - married Arthur John - died 1963
Death notices, type 6 into small white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19630108&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Funeral notice, type 10 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19630109&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Maffra Cemetery
http://www.australiancemeteries.com.au/vic/wellington/maffraozdata.htm
Note: Death of their daughter, Doris Marion, mentions their other children, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206914274

1883 Florence Elizabeth CECIL - not married - died 1968
Death and funeral notices, type 11 into small white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19681213&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Florence Elizabeth CECIL Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 13 December 1968

1888 Robert Victor CECIL - married Mary Emilie - died 1960
Death notice, type 11 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19601108&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Mary death notices, type 10 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19570320&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Welshpool Cemetery
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Robert-Victor-Cecil/26048775
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Mary-Emilie-Cecil/17451058
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Robert-Bob-John-Cecil/17450439

1889 Sydney Thomas CECIL - died 1974
CECIL Sydney Thomas Funeral notice 8-4-1974 Cremation The Age (Melbourne) 6-4-1974
Sydney Thomas CECIL Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 8 April 1974

1896 Rex Lisle CECIL - died 1966
Death notice, type 14 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19660615&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Rex Lisle CECIL Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 15 June 1966

1901 Christina Blackwood CECIL - married GOULD - died 1964
Death notice, type 20 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19651204&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Christina Blackwood GOULD Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 3 December 1965

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: JACK GEE on Monday 11 May 20 05:41 BST (UK)
WOW! Great stuff. You have all done good. This is the end of this segment. The idea was to build up a background/tree of the original William Cecil b.1810.This has been done beautifully with your assistance. Now to push on to finding a current live descendant to ask for their assistance in the Lord Burghley Thomas Cecil DNA Project thru FTDNA. With this material and Dr.Google i have been able to get a couple of possibilities. If this doesnt work then it was going to be a lot of legwork thru the generations via the Electoral Rolls. Not to mention luck.
Once agian many thanks your work is much appreciated.
Cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: JACK GEE on Monday 11 May 20 05:44 BST (UK)
If any Cecil named persons who happen to read this thread and wish to be involved in the afore mentioned Cecil DNA study feel free to PM me and i will be happy to get you into the loop.

cheers
Jack Gee
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Monday 11 May 20 06:35 BST (UK)
Edna - married PAWSON Patrick Vincent
Death notice, Edna: https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/pawson-edna-elle/3650350/
PAWSON Patrick Vincent Death notice 8-1-1976 Death at Chelsea Hospital, late of Chelsea The Age (Melbourne) 9-1-1976
Patrick: https://billiongraves.com/grave/PATRICK-VINCENT-PAWSON/4261234   

Death notices of son Raymond, 2018: https://www.couriermail.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/raymond-joseph-ray-pawson/2965839/

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/tributes/gold-coast/?keywords=Pawson

Allambe Memorial Park:

Stella Ellie KEY: https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/allambememorialpark/stella-ellie-key/966045

Edna Elle PAWSON https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/allambememorialpark/edna-elle-pawson/956422

Raymond Joseph PAWSON: https://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/allambememorialpark/raymond-joseph-pawson/1006424

Jamjar

Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 12 May 20 03:13 BST (UK)
Marriage:

13562/1870 CECIL Thomas William to ROACH Mary

Deaths:

5831/1908 Cecil Mary
Funeral notice, last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article196092828

8877/1912 CECIL Thos
Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery Roman Catholic B, Grave 78
CECIL Thomas 30-8-1912 age 73
(With children Augusta and Alfred

Children of Thomas and Mary:

515/1868 Theresa Mary - marriage 6114/1895 DOWNER Hy - died Perth 756 1940
Death notice, first column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46371331
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY ROMAN CATHOLIC Section IA Grave 0584
DOWNER Theresa Mary age 72 24-4-1940
DOWNER Henry William age 92 27-3-1958
Children:
24949/1896 Mary Amelia Cecile - married WA 7 1916 FARRELL Anthony J
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY ROMAN CATHOLIC Lawn 3 Grave 0168
FARRELL Anthony age 73 4-9-1963
FARRELL Mary Amelia Cecil age 83 21-4-1980
22752/1900 Hy Thos Cecil
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY ROMAN CATHOLIC Section PE 0132
CECIL Henry Thomas Cecil 27-4-1978
WA 3832 1905 Winifred Florence Dorothy Cecil
69 1908 William S C - married 546 1936 MOORHEAD Winifred M
Perenjori Cemetery
DOWNER , W. S. C. (Bill). 20 Mar 1908 - 30 Oct 1973. Husband of Win, father of D, Colin and B
DOWNER , Colin. Husband of Lesley, father of P and M. 2 Jun 1943 - 17 Jun 1984
DOWNER, William Samuel Cecil 65 Perenjori 31 October 1973
DOWNER, Winifred Martha   72 - 22 May 1989
DOWNER, Colin William 41 Perenjori 17 June 1984
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/204418259/william-s_c_-downer
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188836057/colin-downer

547/1869 Augusta Frances - married 9697/1916 HAMMOND Chas - died 3334/1935
Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery Roman Catholic B, Grave 78
HAMMOND Augusta Frances 3 May 1935 age 66
(With father Thomas and brother Alfred)
Husband, death and funeral notices, 1st and 3rd columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206906675
Ferntree Gully Cemetery C of E Section Row 3 Plot 17
HAMMOND Charles 1-12-1953

13562/1870 Thomas William - married 954/1893 RUNCIMAN Mary Susan - died 24 1935 Fremantle, wife died 185 1961 Fremantle
Thomas, death and funeral notices, 1st and 2nd columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32840766
In Memoriam, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46292128
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY PRESBYTERIAN Section MON EE Grave 0701
CECIL Thomas William age 63 14-1-1935
CECIL Mary Susan age 87 27-4-1961
Child:
20840/1893 Leslie Howard died 13524/1893

357/1873 Alice Winifred - died 1865 1939 Fremantle
Funeral notice, 2nd column: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/46426661?searchTerm=%22Theresa%20Downer%22&searchLimits=l-category=Family+Notices
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY ROMAN CATHOLIC Section IA Grave 0584
CECIL Alice Winifred age 66 24-9-1939

1875 Alfred Bernard died 6288/1940
Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery Roman Catholic B, Grave 78
CECIL Alfred Bernard 6-7-1940 age 65
(With father Thomas and sister Augusta)
His wife, death: 8394/1950 CECIL Amelia Susanah
Death notice, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206396389

21562/1876 Agnes Lillian - 4607/1959
Sister Mary Hilda (this is Hilda Mary) died 4607/1959 registered as Agnes Cecil
Death and funeral notices, type 14 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19590318&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
https://billiongraves.com/grave/M-Hilda-Cecil/25027969

1879 Sister Mary Justina - died 14275/1954 registered as Mary Monica Cecil
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Dismas-Binns/11591383

14808/1883 Arthur Phillip - died 8222/1954
Probate, 4th last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71666284
Box Hill Cemetery
Cecil Arthur Philip RC-180-0015 29-7-1954
Military record: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3223474

1144/1885 Mabel Gladys - unmarried - died 7886/1941
Burwood Cemetery Roman Catholic 7, Grave 275
CECIL Edith Ruth age 52
CECIL Mabel Glady age 56
Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205172440
Funeral notice, 4th last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8195893
Probate, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205178561

9290/1887 Philip Howard - married 7452/1918 MCNAMARA Kleen Mary - died 24265/1968
Death and funeral notices, type 10 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19680517&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Wife’s death: 2715/1964 CECIL Kathleen May
Death and funeral notices, type 12 into small white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19640212&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Children: 25805/1919 Kevin Howard
Kevin Howard Cecil
Event date: 27/01/1984
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1920
Registration details: 1984/1015
Mother: Kathleen May McNamara
Father/parent: Philip Howard Cecil
Death notice, type 20 into small white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19840201&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Phyllis Mary Agnes
Death notice: https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/chalker-nee-cecil-phyllis-peg-mary-agnes/4278950/

Jamjar
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 12 May 20 04:55 BST (UK)
Continued from previous post, which exceeded allowed word limit.

18345/1888 Edith Ruth - unmarried - died 11756/1940
Funeral, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11315970
Probate, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11307544
Burwood Cemetery Roman Catholic 7, Grave 275
CECIL Edith Ruth age 52
CECIL Mabel Glady age 56
Funeral: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205172440
Probate, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article205178561
All about Edith Ruth Cecil: https://emhs.org.au/person/cecil/edith_ruth
Edith Ruth military record: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3223473

1578/1891 Ernest Edward - possible death 15112/1919

10053/1894 Geo Cyril - married 7802/1922 TREW Lillian Maude - died 15409/1956
George Cyril and wife at Box Hill Cemetery: http://www.boxhillcemetery.com.au/search/
Cecil   George Cyril RC-172-0035 20-12-1956
Cecil   Lillian Maude RC-172-0035 17/10/1949
George, death and funeral notices, type 9 in small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19561219&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Lillian, death and funeral notices, 1st and 4th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article22785851
George military record: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3223480
Daughter:
3688/1949 CECIL Shirley May to LODGE Matthew Jas Kane
Death notice: https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/lodge-shirley-may/3792669/
Husband, funeral notice: https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/funeral-notices/lodge-matthew-james-kane/3582302/
Andersons Creek Cemetery Victor Lawn Grave 689
LODGE Shirley birth 20 July 1925 death 31 August 2010 service 7 September 2010, age 85
LODGE Matthew birth 17 April 1925 death 8 February 2012 service 15 February 2012, age 86
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 12 May 20 10:08 BST (UK)
CECIL, CHARLES  HENRY mmn COLES 
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in WARWICK UNION  Volume 06D  Page 422

Marriage: 4123/1875 VINCENT, Agnes Elizabeth

Deaths:
14338/1916 CECIL Agnes Elizabeth age 60
265/1928 CECIL Charles age 75
Charles, funeral notice, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article204175027
Agnes, obit, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91191017
Charles, probate, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3905582
Photo of large family monument here: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188770116/albert-l-cecil

Children:

4306/1877 Harold Laceby - died 617/1936
Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11864792
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143305643/harold-lacby-cecil
Probate, last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article11865315
Murdered, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article203901332
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article224863154
There are many articles on the hunt for the murderer.

10739/1878 Mary Haidee - unmarried - died 7467/1953
Death and funeral notices, 1st and 4th columns: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206457882
Daylesford Cemetery
Probate, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206445497

10671/1880 Chas Vincent - married 7378/1908 ARCHIBALD Mary - died 8205/1959
Wife, death: 29302/1976
Charles death notice, type 7 into small white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19590630&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
CECIL Mary Funeral notice 3-12-1976 Death 88 late of Essendon The Age (Melbourne) 4-12-1976
Fawkner Cemetery Presbyterian E, Grave 1268
CECIL Charles V 1-7-1959 79 years
CECIL Mary 6-12-1976 88 years
Children:
651/1914 Dorothy - married 9442/1940 RICHARDSON Harry Keith
Harry, death 2004: https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/tributes/notice/death-notices/richardson-harry-keith/3331246/
1926 Keith Leslie - married 26524/1949 MORRIS Margery - died 2006
CECIL Keith Leslie Death notice 7-2-2006 Death 79 at Lorne Hospital The Age (Melbourne) 9-2-2006
CECIL Margery Death notice 22 -4-2018 Death 90 at Lorne Nursing Home Herald Sun (Melbourne) 25-4-2018
Military record: CECIL KEITH LESLIE : Service Number - 158679 : Date of birth - 27 Sep 1926 : Place of birth - CASTLEMAINE VIC : Place of enlistment - MELBOURNE : Next of Kin - CECIL CHARLES
About Keith with photo: https://surfcoastheritagegroup.wordpress.com/keith-leslie-cecil/

6061/1882 Albert Leceister - died 8353/1958
Death notice, type 7 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19580721&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Daylesford Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188770116/albert-l-cecil

8853/1884 Augustus Percy - death 1175/1885 10mths

28533/1886 Percy Milawa - died 1324/1905 Percy William
Funeral, 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article192223396
Daylesford Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188770115/percy-m-cecil
Killed in bicycle accident, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article198168954
4th last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article87330798

32086/1888 Ralph Augustus - died 3264/1941
Daylesford Cemetery
In Memoriam, 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206072906
Probate, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article8179870

Charles Snr was a Head Teacher, last column of page 10: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article223820122

Ralph was a head Head Teacher, first column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article91191833

Charles V was a school teacher, see siblings’ probate.

Percy was a school teacher, see is accident notice.
Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 13 May 20 07:12 BST (UK)
William Henry McQUADE, son of Helen CECIL and John McQUADE.

10558/1872 William Henry - married 3596/1899 WALKER Edith Ethel - died 16678/1923

Wife’s death WA: Mcquade Edith E Female Perth 256 1918
Her obit, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article81759324
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY Anglican HA 0165
McQUADE Edith Ethel 16-3-1918 age 39

Children:

21698/1899 Edith Florence - married 12253/1924 OBRIEN Wm - died 7382/1926

13400/1902 George Henry - married 8437/1930 MORIER Violet died - 19514/1984
Wife’s death: 23307/1971 Elizabeth Violet
George death notices, type 15 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19840820&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
McQUADE Elizabeth Violet Death notice 22-7-1971 Death The Age (Melbourne) 23-7-1971
Elizabeth Violet McQUADE Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 23 July 1971
George Henry McQUADE Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 21 August 1984

Jamjar





Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 13 May 20 09:21 BST (UK)
Augusta Mary Cecil daughter of Helen CECIL and John McQUADE

20828/1877 Augusta Mary Cecil - married 4044/1907 McPHAIL Alexander - died 6809/1966
Husband’s death: 5449/1948 McPHAIL Alexander
His death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article206886085
Fawkner Memorial Park
McPHAIL Alexander 16 February 1948
Fawkner Memorial Park Protestant D, Grave 554
McPHAIL Augusta Mary 14 April 1966 age 88

Children:

16060/1908 Alma Ctina - married 3177/1935 BLACKLEY Earnest Donald - died 28070/1989
Springvale Botanical Cemetery, ashes scattered
BLACKLEY Alma Christina date of death 27-10-1989 date of service 30-10-1989
Fawkner Memorial Park Scattered On Common Ground, Fawkner Memorial Scattered on Common Ground
BLACKLEY Ernest Donald date of death 25-9-1994 service date 28-9-1994
Son’s death: 10209/1990 Barry Lance
Springvale Botanical Cemetery cremated remains have been collected
BLACKLEY Barry Lance 12 April 1990

22981/1909 Ivy - died 13889/1909 3 mths

30735/1910 Ruby - married 18682/1944 SPARK Lawrence Hy
It is possible that Lawrence was first married to Gladys May Jeffs in 1923. Gladys died 1928 and is buried at Fawkner. A Lawrence Henry who died 1966 is buried with her.
His death notice does not mention a wife, only a son. Type 7 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MDQ-9Oe3GGUC&dat=19660718&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
I cannot find a death reg on VICBDM, or a death notice for Ruby. There is a 31-10-1994 Fawkner cremation, that may be her.
Children’s deaths:
8448/1927 Stanley Ernest 21 days  - mother Gladys May
11140/1948 Lillian May 1 day - mother Ruby

30990/1918 Norman Ross - married 998/1952 SHIELDS Gladys Gertrude - died 22289/1982
Wife’s death: 3889/1987 McPHAIL Gladys Gertrude
Fawkner Memorial Park Garden Of Remembrance 1 Companion Roses, Garden Bed I, Position 42
MCPHAIL Norman R date of service 3-9-1982 age 63
McPHAIL Gladys Gertrude date of death 15-2-1987 date of service 17-2-1987 age 69

Jamjar


Title: Re: William Cecil and sons from Kenilworth to Melbourne circa 1853
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 13 May 20 09:45 BST (UK)
John George McQUADE son of Helen CECIL and John McQUADE

1153/1880 John George - died 5229/1960

556/770
John George MCQUADE Date of grant: 22 Jul 1960; Date of death: 06 May 1960; Occupation: Retired; Residence: E Brunswick
PHYSICAL ITEM Not yet digitised
DATE:1960
SERIES:Wills
AGENCY:Master of the Supreme Court
CITATION:VPRS 7591/ P3  unit 329,  item 556/770

556/770
John George MCQUADE Date of grant: 22 Jul 1960; Date of death: 06 May 1960; Occupation: Retired; Residence: E Brunswick
PHYSICAL ITEM Not yet digitised
DATE:1960
SERIES:Probate and Administration Files
AGENCY:Registrar of Probates, Supreme Court
CITATION:VPRS 28/ P4  unit 2103,  item 556/770
Probate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68NG-L5?i=588&cc=1393345&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJVH1-RMW

I cannot see marriage, notices or burial/cremation for John.

Jamjar