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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Lisajb on Saturday 09 May 20 14:08 BST (UK)
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I need some help finding out what happened to the Gay sisters.
George Gay and Alice (nee Short) had five children
George Stanley 1888 - 1888
Benjamin Reginald 1890 - 1959 (dies in Canada)
Kate Isabel 1891
Florence Mary Hilda 1893
Winifred Doris 1896
All births registered Chipping Sodbury district, place of birth as given on census is Bridgeyate.
In 1911 George and Benjamin, who is using his middle name, are in Wales. Alice is in Kingsdown, Bristol with Kate, Florence (using name Hilda), and Winifred (using name Doris). Kate is a nursery governess, Hilda is at home, and Doris occupation is milliner.
On ancestry I have found some passenger lists, one for a Kate Gay (this one has a middle name, transcribed as Gabel), together with a Florence Gay, a governess and shop assistant respectively, travelling to Quebec in 1912. This is where brother Benjamin/Reginald ends up.
I’ve also found a passenger list showing a George and Alice Gay, together with a Doris Gay who is a milliner, travelling to Quebec in 1913.
I’m pretty sure these are they, could anyone tell me what became of them in Canada?
I have a possible entry for Winifred/Doris in the 1939 register, together with Alice and a couple of chaps, where they fit in I have not yet determined. So possible that these two came back home again.
Thanks
Lisa
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Marriage of George Stanley Gay to Annie Finch, 1926, Aberystruth
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Doris Winifred (Gay) Rogers buried same cemetery as Reginald in Mont-Royal, Outremont, Montreal
Her husband was Watson John Rogers 1879-1969
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109009894/doris-winifred-rogers
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108152795/reginald-benjamin-gay
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Doris Winifred (Gay) Rogers buried same cemetery as Reginald in Mont-Royal, Outremont, Montreal
Her husband was Watson John Rogers 1879-1969
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109009894/doris-winifred-rogers
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108152795/reginald-benjamin-gay
That’s wonderful, thank you so much
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Hi,
From the Montreal Gazette newspaper, June 6, 1959, page 46 an obit. with photo
Reginald B. Gay......survived by wife, one son and 3 sisters Mrs. R.H. Tanner, Mrs. Watson Rogers
of Montreal, and Mrs. C.F. Pinder of Toronto.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=Fr8DH2VBP9sC&dat=19590606&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
DB
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Doris Winifred Rogers - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
10 Aug 1989, Thu Page 56
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50573986/doris-w-rogers-10-august-1989/
Sandra
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Watson John Rogers - The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
7 Mar 1969, Fri Page 31
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50573737/watsion-john-rogers-7-march-1969/
Sandra
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Hi,
Montreal Gazette, 17 July 1963 page 32,
Tanner, Katie Isabel died at the Queen E. hospital, July 16.....survived by....
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=Fr8DH2VBP9sC&dat=19630717&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Same cemetery as brother Reginald and sister Doris
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108208844
DB
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Thank you all so much for finding these.
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Kate Isabel Grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108208844/kate-isobel-tanner
Hilda Mary Grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109044932/hilda-mary-pinder
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Thank you again, that’s all wrapped up nicely. These ladies have been puzzling me for some time. :)
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Hi,
You're welcome. :)
There is a marriage July 30, 1929 in Outremont, Montreal, Quebec
Alexander Innes Mearns, widower, carpenter marries Alice Short, widow of George Gay, both sign,
witnesses were Kate I. Tanner and James Mearns.
Mont Royal Cemetery, Outremont, Montreal
Mearns, Alice d. May 2, 1937
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108938297/alice-mearns
Montreal Gazette Newspaper, May 3, 1937 page 8, an obit.
Mearns, at her daughter's residence Mrs. DJ Rogers, 410 Sherbrooke St. W., Alice Short passed
away peacefully on May 2.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=Fr8DH2VBP9sC&dat=19370503&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
In the same cemetery,
Alexander Innes Mearns d. Nov. 25, 1933 with obit., husband of Alice Short.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108222191/alexander-innes-mearns
DB
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I don’t suppose anyone would be able to dig up details of Alexander’s first marriage?
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Hi,
I will have a look for Alexander's first marriage.
I not having much luck finding a death for Alice's George in Canada. Were George's parents
Benjamin and Rebecca Goodenough.
DB
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Hi,
I will have a look for Alexander's first marriage.
I not having much luck finding a death for Alice's George in Canada. Were George's parents
Benjamin and Rebecca Goodenough.
DB
Thank you.
Mother was definitely Rebecca, father not easily readable, he was baptised Dec 3rd 1854 in Oldland common, Bristol.
I have found an incoming passenger list in 1921 for a George Gay, b 1854, leaving Quebec for Bristol, England, so he possibly returned home for some reason. Country of intended residence is given as England. There is also a death for George Gay in 1927, age is a year out, in Bristol reg district.
It looks, therefore, as though he didn’t stay in Canada.
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Hi,
Yes, I was thinking the following was a possible. He seems to have had a quick trip to Canada, arriving May 15 and leaving July 24, 1921.
A Canadian passenger list on the ship Megantic May 15, 1921 from Liverpool to Quebec
George Gay, age 66, b. Bristol, timekeeper, is joining family, wife Mrs. Geo. Gay, 2468 Waverley St., Montreal, nearest relative sister Mrs. F. Phipps, 36 Dougola Rd., Horfield, Bristol.
Page # 790 Microform #15036
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform-digitization/006003-119.01-e.php?q2=5&q3=591&sqn=790&tt=4969&PHPSESSID=pgu74hjaupu9qmj7ao9j21gtb3
In the 1920-21 Montreal Directories, a W.J. Rogers is listed at 2468 Waverley St., so fairly certain
that is him
And as you mentioned the UK Inward Passenger List on the same ship arriving Liverpool from Quebec on July 24, 1921.
George Gay. age 67. clerk, 36 Dougola Rd. Bristol, intended future residence England.
From the Bristol Church Burials, Feb. 25, 1927
Gay, George, age 72, 71 Ashley Down Rd. formerly of Bridge Yate.
The GRO Index has a birth Gay, George 1854 mother Goodnough in Keynsham vol 05C, page 676
Family search has marriage for George Jan 10, 1887 to Alice Short in Bedminster, his father is
Benjamin and her father is Rowland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT37-3K4
A possible at Find A Grave, with parents Benjamin and Rebecca in Wick Gloucestershire.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150488479#
There should be a voyage for him between 1913 and 1921 back to the UK, but I'm not finding
that but they can be hit and miss sometimes.
DB, You're welcome :)
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Thank you for all this. It’s a strange one - George sails to Montreal, stays a short while, leaves wife and daughter there to join other family members - and then sails back, never to return again.
I did see the grave on findagrave a while back and wondered why George wasn’t buried with his wife, but I hadn’t realised at that point that Alice had died in Canada after remarrying.
Did you have any luck with Alexander Mearns first marriage?
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A couple of other obits from the other day......Charles Frederick Pinder husband of Hilda Mary Gay)
The Gazette
Montreal, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
21 Dec 1953, Mon Page 31
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50576869/charles-frederick-pinder-21-december/
Sandra
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Obit - Robert C Tanner - The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
16 Jul 1993, Fri Page 47
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50577393/robert-tanner-16-july-1993/
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra
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Hi,
I think this is Alex Mearns on the 1901 Canadian census in Montreal,
Mearns, Alex age 44, b. 1856, Scotland, head, carpenter
Mearns, Maggie age 46, b. 1854 Scotland, wife
Mearns, Alex age 17, b. 1884 Scotland, son
Mearns, James age 15, b. 1885 Scotland, son
Morton, James age 78, b. 1823 Scotland, widow, gr. father
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=91248&highlight=28
Find A Grave, same cemetery as Alex and Alice,
Mearns, Margaret d. 16 May 1928
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108938302/margaret-mearns
Obit for Margaret in the Montreal Gazette May 18, 1928, page 7
Mearns, at the residence of her son James Morton Mearns 5970 Jeanne Mance St., Margaret
Morton aged 76, beloved wife of A.I. Mearns Sr. Glasgow papers please copy.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=Fr8DH2VBP9sC&dat=19280518&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
DB
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Hi,
From the Montreal Gazette Nov. 27, 1933, page 7. Ogivly's was/is a "high end" department
store in central Montreal.
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Thank you, that all adds to the picture. So Margaret was a Morton before they married.
I’ve found the marriage on Scotland’s People, 1882, registered in Plantation, Lanarkshire.