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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: jessienicolson on Sunday 10 May 20 10:52 BST (UK)
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Can anyone identify approx. date of this photograph and identify what the lady is wearing. Hugh was in farming around Auchindoir, Aberdeenshire.
Many thanks.
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Is it an early version of a Nurse's watch. Even in the 1960s when my wife was training to be a Midwife they all had upside down watches for ease of reading the 20 seconds timepoint for calculating the pulse ( n X 3 for beats per minute)
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I did notice the watchmyself. I don't think this couple were married in the 1901 census. He was in farming.
Thank you
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It looks Edwardian (1901-1910)
I see that they married in Auchindoir in 1875.
PS Jane Simpson was the name given on SP
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Thank you for that. I think that may be Hugh's parents. Hugh and Jane(Polly) were a couple who brought up my great aunt's illegitimate son Albert Reid, born 1918, when his mother died in 1920 when members of the family did not offer to do so. So I think that couple who married in 1875 were a bit old for bringing him up.
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They are the only Hugh Dey and Jane marrying in Aberdeenshire, Do you think that Jane might have had had another name or they married outwith the area?
You say that they were married in 1901*. Where were they living and what were there ages? It could help with a broader search.
Gadget
* sorry - I mis-read. I though you said that they were married in 1901 :-[
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I've done a wide search for a marriage of Hugh Dey 1901 to 1920, Scotland
Five marriages came up - none to a Jane
1905, Margaret Lund Leith South
1906 Elizabeth Maggie McLean Auchindoir ditto with surnames Milne and Rennie
1906 Isabella Simpson, St Machar
Gadget
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I apologise if I have misled you. I should have said I am sure they were not married in the 1901 census as Hugh born 1879 is working as a farm worker in Premnay.
I have no access to the 1911 census so they were probably married by then.
I was rather curious about the approx. date of the photograph and if the lady, who appears to be wearing a nurses watch, may have actually been a nurse. It is a lovely photograph.
Thanks
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Wi-Fi playing up so hope I haven't confused anyone.
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1911
Main Street, Auchindoir
Hugh Dey, 32, no occupation given
Elizabeth, , wife, 28 (married 4 years, 4 children all iving)
Elizabeth Jane, 4
Hugh, 3
William M, 1
John CooK, 2 months
All b. Auchindoir
So it looks as if the Hugh b. 1879 married Elizabeth McLean/Rennie/Milne
Are you sure that this is they? Could they be the older Hugh and Jane?
Gadget
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I'm thinking this might be the family
1901
Currack, Auchindoir
Hugh Dey, 63, crofter/freestone quarryman, b. Insch
Jane, 51, b. Auchindoir
John C, son, 11, b. -do-
Jane, daughter, 10, b. -do-
They could be circa those ages in the photo
Gadget
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Thank you, this may be the couple in the photo, but I think they would have been too elderly to take on the bringing up of a 3 year old in 1921. I think that the Hugh Dey who
is a farm worker in the 1901 census being born 1879 is probably the man who brought him up. I went on to Scotlands people and found the marriage of a Hugh Dey in 1906 in Auchindoir, but it is very odd because there are 3 entries which state Hugh Dey married Elizabeth Maggie McLean, Elizabeth Maggie Milne and Elizabeth Maggie Rennie.
Maybe Polly was a nickname, but why should this lady have 3 surnames.
Perhaps we will never know.
Thanks.
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I did given you that information yesterday and the 1911 census info. (Reply #6 and 9)
I think purchasing the marriage certificate will give you the info about the surnames. The 3 entries all have the same reg no. so it would only be 6 credits (£1.25)
I traced back to pre-marriage censuses and found that neither Jane nor Elizabeth were nurses.
Who told you who the couple on the photo are and is there anything on the back?
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If they were country folk, they maybe could be post-WW1 but the names you give are wrong. The young Hugh married an Elizabeth and the older one married a Jane.
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I think I am missing a couple of your messages, not sure why. You mention 1911 census. I was given this photo by a lady whose father was brought up by Hugh Dey and his wife Polly, not sure why she mentions Polly. I will go back to her and ask a few more questions,but she is very fragile at present with this virus situation,
You have been very helpful and I do appreciate it.
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THis was my list of marriages:
I've done a wide search for a marriage of Hugh Dey 1901 to 1920, Scotland
Five marriages came up - none to a Jane
1905, Margaret Lund Leith South
1906 Elizabeth Maggie McLean Auchindoir ditto with surnames Milne and Rennie
1906 Isabella Simpson, St Machar
and this is the 1911 census:
1911
Main Street, Auchindoir
Hugh Dey, 32, no occupation given
Elizabeth, , wife, 28 (married 4 years, 4 children all iving)
Elizabeth Jane, 4
Hugh, 3
William M, 1
John CooK, 2 months
All b. Auchindoir
So it looks as if the Hugh b. 1879 married Elizabeth McLean/Rennie/Milne
Maybe the lady got confused about the names but why would she mention a nurse?
Gadget
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Thanks you so much for all this info. I think she and I may have thought the lady in the photo was a nurse as she had what looked like a nurses watch on her dress.
Hugh's wife Elizabeth seems to appear in the 1901 census at McLean, could it have been possible that she married twice before she married Hugh Dey?
Many thanks for your help.
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I've just looked at the 1906 marriage entry . All the surnames can be explained by the fact that Elizabeth was illegitimate. It gives this info:
Elizabeth Maggie Rennie Milne, aged 23
Her reputed father was a John Rennie.
Her mother was Jane Milne, afterwards married to Duncan Mclean
Gadget
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I am truly amazed at the info you have managed to get for me. Thank you. We cant wait till the 1921 census is available, and I believe it was taken in June instead of April because of a strike. Patience is not one of good points.
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I wonder if your friend mixed up Elizabeth's name with her mother or mother-in-law (both Janes).
The photo could then be Hugh, jnr, and Elizabeth.
Gadget
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It is possible, and if she is also referring to her as "Polly" that was probably a family nickname.