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Title: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Monday 11 May 20 08:12 BST (UK)
Here is one I need all your help with.....Jane White died 30th of August 1856
Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856 …..but is she the right  Jane White ?
The Jane White nee Edwards I seek was married only a few months before on the 8th of March to Thomas White in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire.
I cannot find a death in England and Wales that confirms the correct Jane.
Spain is otherwise where Jane  would likely to be as Thomas had business interests there...…
BUT to now we think that to be in Seville...…..
My likely questions are...was there a British consulate in Seville in 1856 ?
Can anyone think of any sources I can use to find out if the Jane who is registered in Cadiz is the right Jane ?
I await your comments

Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: Brentor boy on Monday 11 May 20 08:38 BST (UK)
Have you found Thomas in 1861?
Is he a widower?
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 11 May 20 08:58 BST (UK)
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Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Do you have the overseas death certificate from GRO - is there no further information there?
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Monday 11 May 20 12:06 BST (UK)
Bren ...no I haven't found him in 1861 ...any ideas ?
   and

Shaun yes I do have the death cert...for what it's worth ...
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Monday 11 May 20 12:07 BST (UK)
Shaun all it gives is dates...the informant was a man called Richard Gardner..a mechanic not of same address.
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 May 20 09:05 BST (UK)
I see that your online tree gives the place of her death as 209, Calle Flamencos, Cadiz.
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Tuesday 12 May 20 10:02 BST (UK)
Yes Shaun , But that is the puzzle.   I am of the opinion this may be the right person...but it's a little like leading the evidence..."there is no other info so this must be true"...But it hardly ever is true in research.

If she is the correct Jane White  , then did she just arrive in Spain ?

A possibility is that she was convalescing at that address after a sea journey to Cadiz   on her way to Seville.
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 May 20 10:23 BST (UK)
Your original question (about whether was a British consulate in Seville) wouldn't have any relevance to this Jane White who died in Cadiz, and whose death was registered with the consulate in Cadiz.

I couldn't see a UK newspaper death announcement. There was no national civil registration in Spain until 1875. Perhaps search for a burial or a municipal death record?

Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:04 BST (UK)
I am going off track here but I can see a published tree with what seems like conflicting information. It is in your name. Is the information on that tree just speculative?
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:07 BST (UK)
Hi Heywood,

There is a tree which is work in progress only.



Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:13 BST (UK)
Thanks.
It is the different occupations on the marriage certificates for Thomas White and his father that confused me.
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:17 BST (UK)
Yes they were quite a family.... One Issac was a headmaster and an Innkeeper at the same time !

another brother of Thomas (Jane's husband) was a man called Isias or Isaiah ….He was one of the founders of SEVILLA FC...the oldest football club in Spain and multiple winners of the UEFA Cup in recent times.
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:28 BST (UK)
Very interesting  :D
I love Cadiz and Seville ... wish we could go there now  ;)

Seville (only been on a day’s outing) is very, very hot. Maybe Jane was a bit cooler in Cadiz.
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:36 BST (UK)
I was in Seville 3 months ago !
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:39 BST (UK)
March 14th sitting in departures flight cancelled or more to the point...sent back empty to pick up ex pats...us sent home from airport !

For what it's worth ….I have added the cert to the tree
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: mlrsuperstar on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:41 BST (UK)
Do you think I should ask the moderator to move this thread to the Europe section ?
Title: Re: Jane White's death is registered at the Consulate in Cadiz ,Spain 1st Sept 1856
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 12 May 20 11:45 BST (UK)
It seems very likely, doesn’t it.