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Title: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Tuesday 12 May 20 04:37 BST (UK)
Hi Hoping someone can shed a light??

I am looking for the death & grave of my GGG grandmother Jane Fisher

Jane born Jane McBride in Allsaints, County Donegal, Ireland in 1816 Married Samuel Fisher and immigrated to New South Wales, Australia in 1841 on ship: Helen.
They had children in Sydney but in 1853 - Samuel became unaccountable for his wifes' debts (I think they may have separated)

Although Samuel in buried in Waverley Cemetery - Jane is not with him.
I can't find any record of her???
(Maybe - hospital. asylum or gaol????)

So would appreciate if anyone can assist???

Thanks & regards Michelle
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 12 May 20 05:43 BST (UK)
I think she was not mentally well in 1853.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/27926918

Sue


Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 12 May 20 08:21 BST (UK)
There are a number of digitised documents regarding Jane Fisher confined and released  Darlinghurst Gaol.

The latest I see which I think is probably the same woman is 1875.

Perhaps you have these records.

Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Tuesday 12 May 20 12:48 BST (UK)
Hi Sparrett,
Yes I also agree I only found this out a couple of days ago and I do believe she was mentally unwell. Thank you though for letting me (I just did not want to dwell on this. I figure it was after this time in gaol that she died but I have exhausted all avenues as to what I ca think of to find where she is buried and where she died.

I only wish I could get a certificate but without a trace I can't.

So any suggestion is of help and much appreciated
Thank you again
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Tuesday 12 May 20 15:36 BST (UK)
NSW ... Sydney .... infirm female Asylums ....

From 1862 to mid 1880s ... Hyde Park Asylum then they were moved to Newington Female Asylum.

In that era,  Sydney University may have received bodies to assist in practical lessons for training or research purposes.

I t is half past midnight, I will try to do some initial lookup efforts  before mid morning to see if I can help further. 

Perhaps the thread could be moved from The Common Room to the Australia Board?

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Tuesday 12 May 20 23:45 BST (UK)
Thank you majm for assisting me with this.

If the question is better off on the Australian board (please can I have assistance as I have no idea how to do this?? Still learning & I think I am only realising?? Is this wonderful Rootschat based in the UK?? )
 You are always so helpful & I fully appreciate this. Thank you

I was thinking asylum type records?? But Blimey I had no idea (and should have thought about medical students utilising bodies) This is so sad to think of this & that I may never find Jane.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 00:47 BST (UK)
 I will use the report to moderator button and ask them to move it to Australia.  :)

Yes,  if you Google NSW Female Asylums in Sydney  for females there should be background info.  I will check some of my offline resources to look further.

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 01:00 BST (UK)
Between 1862 and 1886 the Hyde Park Barracks was used as an Asylum for Infirm and Destitute Women.  It was, in that sense, the first government funded refuge for women, and up to 200 women could be cared for at any one time. 

Google tells me that a recent Western Sydney Uni Master of Arts (Honours) student submitted a thesis on the Hyde Park Asylum covering 1862-1886.   :)

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 02:45 BST (UK)
Re Samuel,  the Sydney Morning Herald 19 Feb 1880 has a funeral announcement.  Is it for your Samuel?  It does not make any mention by name of his immediate family... It mentions that the funeral was to move from the residence of Mrs Stacy, Albert St Paddington to Waverley Cemetery.

Back in 1841, the immigration papers per the Helen, departing Liverpool, England, for Samuel and Jane Fisher give details about their parents.  That info can be helpful when checking for deaths in NSW.

Samuel was son of James FISHER and Ann BRADLEY, he was aged 28, and a Presbyterian.  Jane FISHER, his wife aged 25,  was the daughter of John MCBRIDE  and Sarah HOOD, oops ADD and a Presbyterian....

The NSW bdm online index has the 1880 death registration for Samuel FISHER  with parents as James and Ann registered Paddington #3773, with date of 17 February.  :) so the informant knew the names of Samuels parents.  The informant may have known other information recorded on the d.c, including his marriage to Jane.  It may even note her as deceased, although it was  not a formal requirement to note if the spouse was then living.

I think the Mrs STACY of Albert St was likely Sarah A STACEY, nee FISHER, who was married in 1872.

Likely you have much of the above, but it can be sensible to share with the regulars on the Australia Board to give background.

JM  :)

Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 13 May 20 02:54 BST (UK)
I would venture to suggest that Jane died not long after her last recorded gaol confinement in 1875.

She was already elderly  at that time and in very poor health and an ongoing damaging lifestyle.

Using NSW bmd search and entering in surname the word Unknown brings up a sadly large list of deaths. The whereabouts of the death is given.

It is possible that Jane is numbered among  these.

Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 03:02 BST (UK)
Yes, sadly, very possible, likely.

I cannot find any one as Jane FISHER noted in my offline  Sydney notes. 

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 13 May 20 03:06 BST (UK)


I think the Mrs STACY of Albert St was likely Sarah A STACEY, nee FISHER, who was married in 1872.

Likely you have much of the above, but it can be sensible to share with the regulars on the Australia Board to give background.

JM  :)

Just confirming that Sarah STACEY was the daughter of Samuel FISHER.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13263739

Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 04:01 BST (UK)
NSW Electoral Roll  1878 PADDINGTON
Charles STACY, Albert lane, Paddington, freehold.
Samuel FISHER, Albert Street, Paddington, residence.


NSW ER 1870 PADDINGTON
Charles STACY, Victoria St, Paddington, freehold.

NSW ER 1870 WEST SYDNEY
Samuel FISHER, Cooper's buildings, off Newtown Road, household

Sydney Benevolent Asylum has admission 23 Nov 1897 for a Jane FISHER, but she was then aged 37.   http://www.sydneybenevolentasylum.com/ 

ADD
These are all locations near to Darlinghurst,  :)  so perhaps Jane may have been in contact with her family, afterall the 1874 and 1875 charges do not include Vagrancy.

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 04:31 BST (UK)
Burrandong...

NSW ER 1970 WELLINGTON
Samuel FISHER, of Ulngala, qualified to vote as held a miner's right.

JM

Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 13 May 20 05:04 BST (UK)
Hi Marj and Sparrett

Thank you for all of this with Samuel (Some I had but not all this new electoral information and nothing about asylum . I am gobsmacked!! & yes you are correct this is all for him and yes Mrs Stacey with funeral is his daughter. SO yes I had a lot of this but not all the other  of this and run out of complete ends. He lived a hard life and must have be trying for him at times. Judging by all I have read but I also feel for Jane as well.

I think I searched High, low & sideways for Janes deaths but have come up complete dead ends.

I think the Samuel Fisher in Wellington might be his son???  Grafton area in nsw is where he died?? But a fair distance from wellington.

That's the trouble there is no one actively researching either Jane or Samuel and I messaged what little I found to the people but no replies.
Thank goodness for shipping records or I wouldn't have found parents were.

So again I have turned to this wonderful site & both Majm & Sparrett Have assisted. YOu both are wonderful (At least I know there is an Australian board & based in UK). So thank you

I do think her health would not of been good - mental & physical So I also think she may have passed even before Samuel.
I think chances are getting slimmer, which is sad as no one knows where this poor lady is. Samuel is in Waverley cemetery I found yesterday.

I thought about a death cert for Samuel as I was lucky with finding quite a bit with him but Jane I would buy a cert BUT can't find even her death. ???
Janes maiden name was McBride - I did also try this with some things but turned up nothing

Thank you both again.
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 13 May 20 06:32 BST (UK)
A Presbyterian boy named Samuel FISHER who was aged 6 years in 1856 was admitted to the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children in 1856.

Have you seen that record?

In case you have not, I will give the details
Samuel FISHER. Admitted June 19th 1856. Aged 6. Religion P. Can read-No. Can write- No.
Place of birth NSW.

Description Mother dead deserted by the father who is at the Victoria diggings.

29th September 1856. Discharged to the service of Mrs SMALE , Grafton. Indentured. Signed.
Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 06:49 BST (UK)
Baptism Samuel FISHER on 6 Dec 1850 at St Andrews Scots Church Sydney.  Parents as Samuel FISHER and Jane MCBRIDE.

ADD
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDF-R8D

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 06:55 BST (UK)
That could mean we are looking for a death 1853 to 1856 ... and likely closer to 1856, ie admission date ... what about his siblings...

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 13 May 20 06:59 BST (UK)
It does seem to be the same child.

The backstory description of his circumstances is at odds with other information.

I see the death of a woman named Matilda FISHER in BURROWA in 1878, Parents listed as Samuel and Jane.

I can't see a record of her birth in NSW. Perhaps just a co incidence of names.

She is buried at Burrowa (Boorowa)Cemetery. 8th June 1878 aged C. 20 years
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 07:04 BST (UK)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60147780 Empire 29 December 1853 ... Samuel Fisher giving evidence in court about his wife, four children, supporting Sue's earlier post  :)

 
I think she was not mentally well in 1853.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/27926918

Sue




Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 13 May 20 07:22 BST (UK)
Yes,  I think that is a Mrs FISHER, as in Matilda, the wife of Edwin FISHER ...  :) 

JM

Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 13 May 20 12:27 BST (UK)
Hi sparrett
Blimey that is so sad. I definitely think this is same child. I feel so sad & thank you. I have no doubt this is their son Samuel. Too many coincidences.
Grafton for one - as this is where he lived married & had children & died.
I really wish sometimes we could help what went on & no had absolutely no idea as never had seen this.
Then it says father went to Victoria diggings well that makes sense because he went to Bendigo to mine (the goldmining area of Eaglehawk/Bendigo) & this is how my GG granny Jane end up there & married & so on & then I had heard Samuel went back to Sydney. So you have filled in a huge gap.
All this is so eye opening & just so sad.

That's the trouble when I am doing my best to fill in gaps yet there is always more. Very thankful

Answered a lot of questions about young Samuel. How sad he was deserted.

Also this Matilda lady - I don't know of her?? I wonder if just a coincidence. I know where Boorowa is, in the middle of nowhere & a complete small weeny town. I don't know if they would have went there as a few hundred km & sort of middle of nsw??

Again I thank you for all this
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 13 May 20 12:35 BST (UK)
I think Matilda FISHER  can be discounted as part of your family.

JM has pointed out she was most likely FISHER by marriage.See Reply #20

I do think the Jane FISHER entries in the Darlinghurst Gaol listings in the 1870's were for another Jane FISHER, not yours.  There are few identifying details such as age or birth place so cannot confirm she is yours.

I don't know how your g. grandmother ended up in Bendigo.

Did she go with her father Samuel?
Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 13 May 20 12:36 BST (UK)
Thank you majm,
Yes this is what I have as Samuel the son as his baptism etc

His siblings are
John who was born Ireland & died on trip out as a 1 year old 1840-1841, Sarah Ann (married Charles Stacey) 1842 -1909, Mary 1844 - No idea what became of this girl, Jane 1845 - 1938 (my gg granny) married Martino Borserio (he deserted her & married Giovanni Pianto, James 1846 - 1914 (I have found nothing about him) and Samuel 1849 - 1939 and married Emily Izetta Ashburn

Hoping this information is of assistance & again thank you
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 13 May 20 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi Sparrett, I agree I don't think the 1870 Jane is the same I seen this yesterday I have a feeling she may be dead by this time??

Good question how did Jane get to Bendigo - I can only guess with her dad 1865 (her age would be about 19) is when she married Martino Borserio and they lived in Eaglehawk which is Bendigo area

Thank you
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 13 May 20 12:42 BST (UK)


You have listed five children not including John who died in infancy.

The press notice re the attempted suicide says four children, so another was deceased by 1853.

Sue

ADDING
Where did you get the date 1865 for the removal to Bendigo?

Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 13 May 20 12:46 BST (UK)
Thank you Sue,
there is the answer for Mary. I'd say she must be the little one who passed. This is sadder by the minute. Good lord but it answers why I couldn't find anything on this little one. All I an say i'm glad Jane went to Eaglehawk.

Thank you Still digesting all that you and Majm have found

Marriage to: Martino BORSERIO
Victoria, Australia Registration #: 00666 BMD Victoria
 St Killians Catholic church, Sandhurst, bendigo Victoria Australia Mar 22 1865

I have also personally seen this in the church earlier this year.  Wasn't allowed to take photo But this I personally know. This man is my GG grandad. They had Martin  & then he had son James who had my father James. There were other children as well

Thank you
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Thursday 14 May 20 02:51 BST (UK)
Hi, 

Civil registration of deaths did not commence in New South Wales until 1 March 1856.  The Early Church Records cover many burials, but are by no means 'complete'.  It seems likely that Jane died before the civil registration process was in operation, assuming she died in NSW.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/topics/family-history-search/registry-records
https://www.nsw.gov.au/topics/family-history-search/family-history-research-guide
https://www.nsw.gov.au/births-deaths-marriages/about-us/history-of-registry

Trove :
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60173697 Empire 13 Feb 1856.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12980625 SMH 15 Feb 1856
... housekeepers to give notice of the death of any person on their premises within thirty days ...  Ministers of religion are to receive certificates of the registration of deaths when they attend funerals. The registration is to be performed without cost ....
 
JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 14 May 20 06:22 BST (UK)
Hi
On the marriage certificate for Jane FISHER and Martino BORSERIE, which took place in Victoria in 1865 who were the witnesses and who gave permission for the marriage of Jane,she  being under age.

What, if any, statement was made about the bride's mother- living or deceased?

Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Friday 15 May 20 05:59 BST (UK)
HI Sue,
I have never needed to purchase this marriage cert as I knew the details of where they married etc
BUT please if you think this can or might assist let me know & I will purchase one??

I think they can send by email from Victoria BMD & am more than happy to purchase this

Thank you again Michelle
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Friday 15 May 20 07:02 BST (UK)
Although he is not your particular person of interest, I wonder if you have you seen the digitisation of the naturalisation of Martino BORSERIO

https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection

Search the archives here and you will learn a lot about him and his stated arrival in Victoria.
He states he has been in Victoria for 15 years since his arrival per Star of India March 1862.

I cannot really see him on the passenger list for that voyage though there is a person listed as Barserino Agostino aged 34. Born other parts.

It is difficult to advise about the certificate of marriage for Jane (nee FISHER) and Martino.
As she is a direct ancestor of your line, it is a good support document to have in your research.
On the other hand it may not contain any information you don't already have.

I have not been able to find when her father Samuel FISHER returned to NSW. The cert may or may not show his presence at the marriage is some capacity.
There may be mention of the living or deceased status of Jane (snr) her mother or maybe not.

Tricky decision :)
ADDING. Yes it is a direct download to your email after payment

Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: Jang on Friday 15 May 20 08:28 BST (UK)
According to the Eaglehawk Pioneer Register Volume 1 A-C, the witnesses to the marriage of Martino Borserio and Jane Fisher on 22 March 1865 were Agostino Pianto and Mary Maggetti.
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Friday 15 May 20 08:37 BST (UK)
According to the Eaglehawk Pioneer Register Volume 1 A-C, the witnesses to the marriage of Martino Borserio and Jane Fisher on 22 March 1865 were Agostino Pianto and Mary Maggetti.

Do you have access to the Volume covering F surnames,  if so, any entries for FISHER at all?

 :D  :D  :D
JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: Jang on Friday 15 May 20 08:44 BST (UK)
Only brief mentions (no biographical details) of:
Charles Fisher from Yorkshire
John Fisher, policeman
Maria Fisher from Sussex
Matthew, a miner in 1857
Peter Fisher, miner 1861
William Sandon Fisher from Devonshire
William Thomas Fisher from USA.
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Sunday 17 May 20 03:04 BST (UK)
Hi Sue/Sparrett
Yes thank you again Martino Borserio is my GG grandfather & yes I have photocopies of the naturalisation of him. Found an awlful lot. So much appreciate this info as a lot of time cannot find much but him I do know. (Apparently he went to Sydney and worked at some stage for his ex-father in law Samuel Fisher). Barserino Agostino is Agostino Borserio - still not  sure if he is related but I would presume with last name yes. The spelling of Borserio (my last name) has been misinterpreted loads. LOL
I am going to say that next time I pop over to Bendigo where martino & Jane married I will ask to view the registers again (I go once a year to visit my parents who are passed)
Off the top of my head I don't recall seeing Samueals name as a witness & I can see a helpful person has also noted this in another comment

So at a loss as to when he went back to Sydney. It appears only a short period of time in mining in Bendigo area.

Thank you so much again
Michelle
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Sunday 17 May 20 03:09 BST (UK)
Thank you very Jang & Yes I am very mucky to have the whole set of registers (I acquired recently) for Eaglehawk (all my dads side came from there).

I want to thank you for telling me of who the witnesses were to the marriage. I knew it wasn't Samuel as I didn't see his name but couldn't remember who) Again thanks

& believe It or not all the Fisher mentioned in the book aren't related (mine were irish and came out by themselves) .

Thanks again for your assistance
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Sunday 17 May 20 03:12 BST (UK)
Hi Majm,

Yes I have the whole set and the Fishers that are mentioned are of no relation.
There is 7 Fishers mentioned and all bar 2 I could rule out.

On the shipping list there is only SAmuel & Jane no other Fishers (none of these that I can connect.

Thank you again Michelle
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 20 May 20 01:58 BST (UK)
Hi Majm & Sparrett

I am just going over & reading all in regards to Jane Fisher

I just want to put it to rest - I am assuming that Jane may have died an unknown? & before records were really in place?? So I think I can say that unfortunately I will not ever know where this lady is buried??

Thank you again for your assistance as I found many other things out (Especially with their son Samuel - tried to look up the Randwick records -Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children - for the him but got very lost in the archives  & still couldn't find record (one site I cannot master)
Thank you both again
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 20 May 20 02:50 BST (UK)
Hi michelle,
Re the Randwick file
In Reply #15 I gave you all there was from that record.
There were no other Fisher children admitted around that time.

I used Ancestry to locate the document and so I saw the original full record.

Sue
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 20 May 20 03:37 BST (UK)
Hi Sparrett,
thank you so much. For confirming that. Much appreciated as I use My Heritage.

Wherever Jane is I hope she is at peace.

Regards Michelle

Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 20 May 20 04:01 BST (UK)
I have one more offline resource to check,  it is my handwritten transcription of a document I accessed many years ago re the Hyde Park Barracks when they were functioning as a Female Asylum.  To me,  it would be the logical place for sheltering homeless women discharged from either Darlinghurst Gaol or Sydney Hospital in the 1850s.  I am just waiting on my husband to lift the 'right' archive box down.  Ahhh .... errr .... I say no more....  ::) 

JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Wednesday 20 May 20 04:14 BST (UK)
Hi majm

Oh my goodness I hope I am not putting you to trouble??

I thoroughly appreciate this.
I had closed the door on Jane, hoping she rested in peace.

I was just confirming as you have assisted me to no end with my family over the past couple of months.

If I could buy you and Sparrett a bunch of flowers I would as appreciation.

Again thank you and I will await your reply.
Please don't lift anything too heavy. I'm very patient.
Been working on this family off & on for 2 years

Thanks again Michelle
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Wednesday 20 May 20 07:41 BST (UK)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL29-C9D

I am likely duplicating info already known, but I think the image of this card has quality immigration info typed up all in the one spot. 

Box will be at hand before morning tea tomorrow - otherwise HE will be going without dateloaf.  :D  :D  :D

JM

 
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Thursday 21 May 20 14:01 BST (UK)
LOL YOu have just choked me with laughter on my coffee thank you LOL

Thank you JM
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: majm on Friday 22 May 20 02:39 BST (UK)
Right,  shhh … the box I asked for …. Ummm …. It stops at 1851.  My next box is ‘not here’ … So I have checked aghhhh ….  Level 3 at Hyde Park Barracks did not become the Female Destitute Asylum until 1862, when around 150 women already in long term care of the Benevolent Asylum were moved from the Benevolent Asylum (corner of Pitt and Devonshire Streets, Sydney – where Central Station is !).   So to me the question becomes … where’s my archive box for the 1850s … hopefully it has my handwritten notes including the list of the infirm women who were in the care of the Benevolent Asylum  in the 1850s.  My trusty notebook says ‘women SDA to HPB – 1862.’     I have phoned some rellies, and they think they may still have some of my research as they have been validating their own research.  They will take a look this weekend.

JM  I have made double lot of dateloaf. 
Title: Re: Looking for grave & burial of Jane Fisher (immigrated from Ireland
Post by: AUSSIE michelle on Saturday 23 May 20 03:08 BST (UK)
Oh JM you make me giggle.
I hope the double lot of date loaf worked (my dear nan use to make this and I haven't had it since a child - feel free to send me some - LOL)

How frustrating - not for me but for you with the box.
I can't believe you are going to so much trouble - which I appreciate VERY much.

Hopefully you find the box!! I hate when I can't find things.
Have a terrific weekend & I have copied onto my own notes in regards to the Female Destitute Asylum. (Never know when I might need to know this - I keep everything

Thank you Michelle