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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: AUSSIE michelle on Tuesday 12 May 20 04:37 BST (UK)
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Hi Hoping someone can shed a light??
I am looking for the death & grave of my GGG grandmother Jane Fisher
Jane born Jane McBride in Allsaints, County Donegal, Ireland in 1816 Married Samuel Fisher and immigrated to New South Wales, Australia in 1841 on ship: Helen.
They had children in Sydney but in 1853 - Samuel became unaccountable for his wifes' debts (I think they may have separated)
Although Samuel in buried in Waverley Cemetery - Jane is not with him.
I can't find any record of her???
(Maybe - hospital. asylum or gaol????)
So would appreciate if anyone can assist???
Thanks & regards Michelle
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I think she was not mentally well in 1853.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/27926918
Sue
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There are a number of digitised documents regarding Jane Fisher confined and released Darlinghurst Gaol.
The latest I see which I think is probably the same woman is 1875.
Perhaps you have these records.
Sue
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Hi Sparrett,
Yes I also agree I only found this out a couple of days ago and I do believe she was mentally unwell. Thank you though for letting me (I just did not want to dwell on this. I figure it was after this time in gaol that she died but I have exhausted all avenues as to what I ca think of to find where she is buried and where she died.
I only wish I could get a certificate but without a trace I can't.
So any suggestion is of help and much appreciated
Thank you again
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NSW ... Sydney .... infirm female Asylums ....
From 1862 to mid 1880s ... Hyde Park Asylum then they were moved to Newington Female Asylum.
In that era, Sydney University may have received bodies to assist in practical lessons for training or research purposes.
I t is half past midnight, I will try to do some initial lookup efforts before mid morning to see if I can help further.
Perhaps the thread could be moved from The Common Room to the Australia Board?
JM
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Thank you majm for assisting me with this.
If the question is better off on the Australian board (please can I have assistance as I have no idea how to do this?? Still learning & I think I am only realising?? Is this wonderful Rootschat based in the UK?? )
You are always so helpful & I fully appreciate this. Thank you
I was thinking asylum type records?? But Blimey I had no idea (and should have thought about medical students utilising bodies) This is so sad to think of this & that I may never find Jane.
Thanks again
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I will use the report to moderator button and ask them to move it to Australia. :)
Yes, if you Google NSW Female Asylums in Sydney for females there should be background info. I will check some of my offline resources to look further.
JM
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Between 1862 and 1886 the Hyde Park Barracks was used as an Asylum for Infirm and Destitute Women. It was, in that sense, the first government funded refuge for women, and up to 200 women could be cared for at any one time.
Google tells me that a recent Western Sydney Uni Master of Arts (Honours) student submitted a thesis on the Hyde Park Asylum covering 1862-1886. :)
JM
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Re Samuel, the Sydney Morning Herald 19 Feb 1880 has a funeral announcement. Is it for your Samuel? It does not make any mention by name of his immediate family... It mentions that the funeral was to move from the residence of Mrs Stacy, Albert St Paddington to Waverley Cemetery.
Back in 1841, the immigration papers per the Helen, departing Liverpool, England, for Samuel and Jane Fisher give details about their parents. That info can be helpful when checking for deaths in NSW.
Samuel was son of James FISHER and Ann BRADLEY, he was aged 28, and a Presbyterian. Jane FISHER, his wife aged 25, was the daughter of John MCBRIDE and Sarah HOOD, oops ADD and a Presbyterian....
The NSW bdm online index has the 1880 death registration for Samuel FISHER with parents as James and Ann registered Paddington #3773, with date of 17 February. :) so the informant knew the names of Samuels parents. The informant may have known other information recorded on the d.c, including his marriage to Jane. It may even note her as deceased, although it was not a formal requirement to note if the spouse was then living.
I think the Mrs STACY of Albert St was likely Sarah A STACEY, nee FISHER, who was married in 1872.
Likely you have much of the above, but it can be sensible to share with the regulars on the Australia Board to give background.
JM :)
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I would venture to suggest that Jane died not long after her last recorded gaol confinement in 1875.
She was already elderly at that time and in very poor health and an ongoing damaging lifestyle.
Using NSW bmd search and entering in surname the word Unknown brings up a sadly large list of deaths. The whereabouts of the death is given.
It is possible that Jane is numbered among these.
Sue
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Yes, sadly, very possible, likely.
I cannot find any one as Jane FISHER noted in my offline Sydney notes.
JM
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I think the Mrs STACY of Albert St was likely Sarah A STACEY, nee FISHER, who was married in 1872.
Likely you have much of the above, but it can be sensible to share with the regulars on the Australia Board to give background.
JM :)
Just confirming that Sarah STACEY was the daughter of Samuel FISHER.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13263739
Sue
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NSW Electoral Roll 1878 PADDINGTON
Charles STACY, Albert lane, Paddington, freehold.
Samuel FISHER, Albert Street, Paddington, residence.
NSW ER 1870 PADDINGTON
Charles STACY, Victoria St, Paddington, freehold.
NSW ER 1870 WEST SYDNEY
Samuel FISHER, Cooper's buildings, off Newtown Road, household
Sydney Benevolent Asylum has admission 23 Nov 1897 for a Jane FISHER, but she was then aged 37. http://www.sydneybenevolentasylum.com/
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These are all locations near to Darlinghurst, :) so perhaps Jane may have been in contact with her family, afterall the 1874 and 1875 charges do not include Vagrancy.
JM
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Burrandong...
NSW ER 1970 WELLINGTON
Samuel FISHER, of Ulngala, qualified to vote as held a miner's right.
JM
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Hi Marj and Sparrett
Thank you for all of this with Samuel (Some I had but not all this new electoral information and nothing about asylum . I am gobsmacked!! & yes you are correct this is all for him and yes Mrs Stacey with funeral is his daughter. SO yes I had a lot of this but not all the other of this and run out of complete ends. He lived a hard life and must have be trying for him at times. Judging by all I have read but I also feel for Jane as well.
I think I searched High, low & sideways for Janes deaths but have come up complete dead ends.
I think the Samuel Fisher in Wellington might be his son??? Grafton area in nsw is where he died?? But a fair distance from wellington.
That's the trouble there is no one actively researching either Jane or Samuel and I messaged what little I found to the people but no replies.
Thank goodness for shipping records or I wouldn't have found parents were.
So again I have turned to this wonderful site & both Majm & Sparrett Have assisted. YOu both are wonderful (At least I know there is an Australian board & based in UK). So thank you
I do think her health would not of been good - mental & physical So I also think she may have passed even before Samuel.
I think chances are getting slimmer, which is sad as no one knows where this poor lady is. Samuel is in Waverley cemetery I found yesterday.
I thought about a death cert for Samuel as I was lucky with finding quite a bit with him but Jane I would buy a cert BUT can't find even her death. ???
Janes maiden name was McBride - I did also try this with some things but turned up nothing
Thank you both again.
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A Presbyterian boy named Samuel FISHER who was aged 6 years in 1856 was admitted to the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children in 1856.
Have you seen that record?
In case you have not, I will give the details
Samuel FISHER. Admitted June 19th 1856. Aged 6. Religion P. Can read-No. Can write- No.
Place of birth NSW.
Description Mother dead deserted by the father who is at the Victoria diggings.
29th September 1856. Discharged to the service of Mrs SMALE , Grafton. Indentured. Signed.
Sue
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Baptism Samuel FISHER on 6 Dec 1850 at St Andrews Scots Church Sydney. Parents as Samuel FISHER and Jane MCBRIDE.
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTDF-R8D
JM
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That could mean we are looking for a death 1853 to 1856 ... and likely closer to 1856, ie admission date ... what about his siblings...
JM
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It does seem to be the same child.
The backstory description of his circumstances is at odds with other information.
I see the death of a woman named Matilda FISHER in BURROWA in 1878, Parents listed as Samuel and Jane.
I can't see a record of her birth in NSW. Perhaps just a co incidence of names.
She is buried at Burrowa (Boorowa)Cemetery. 8th June 1878 aged C. 20 years
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60147780 Empire 29 December 1853 ... Samuel Fisher giving evidence in court about his wife, four children, supporting Sue's earlier post :)
I think she was not mentally well in 1853.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/27926918
Sue
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Yes, I think that is a Mrs FISHER, as in Matilda, the wife of Edwin FISHER ... :)
JM
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Hi sparrett
Blimey that is so sad. I definitely think this is same child. I feel so sad & thank you. I have no doubt this is their son Samuel. Too many coincidences.
Grafton for one - as this is where he lived married & had children & died.
I really wish sometimes we could help what went on & no had absolutely no idea as never had seen this.
Then it says father went to Victoria diggings well that makes sense because he went to Bendigo to mine (the goldmining area of Eaglehawk/Bendigo) & this is how my GG granny Jane end up there & married & so on & then I had heard Samuel went back to Sydney. So you have filled in a huge gap.
All this is so eye opening & just so sad.
That's the trouble when I am doing my best to fill in gaps yet there is always more. Very thankful
Answered a lot of questions about young Samuel. How sad he was deserted.
Also this Matilda lady - I don't know of her?? I wonder if just a coincidence. I know where Boorowa is, in the middle of nowhere & a complete small weeny town. I don't know if they would have went there as a few hundred km & sort of middle of nsw??
Again I thank you for all this
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I think Matilda FISHER can be discounted as part of your family.
JM has pointed out she was most likely FISHER by marriage.See Reply #20
I do think the Jane FISHER entries in the Darlinghurst Gaol listings in the 1870's were for another Jane FISHER, not yours. There are few identifying details such as age or birth place so cannot confirm she is yours.
I don't know how your g. grandmother ended up in Bendigo.
Did she go with her father Samuel?
Sue
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Thank you majm,
Yes this is what I have as Samuel the son as his baptism etc
His siblings are
John who was born Ireland & died on trip out as a 1 year old 1840-1841, Sarah Ann (married Charles Stacey) 1842 -1909, Mary 1844 - No idea what became of this girl, Jane 1845 - 1938 (my gg granny) married Martino Borserio (he deserted her & married Giovanni Pianto, James 1846 - 1914 (I have found nothing about him) and Samuel 1849 - 1939 and married Emily Izetta Ashburn
Hoping this information is of assistance & again thank you
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Hi Sparrett, I agree I don't think the 1870 Jane is the same I seen this yesterday I have a feeling she may be dead by this time??
Good question how did Jane get to Bendigo - I can only guess with her dad 1865 (her age would be about 19) is when she married Martino Borserio and they lived in Eaglehawk which is Bendigo area
Thank you
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You have listed five children not including John who died in infancy.
The press notice re the attempted suicide says four children, so another was deceased by 1853.
Sue
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Where did you get the date 1865 for the removal to Bendigo?
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Thank you Sue,
there is the answer for Mary. I'd say she must be the little one who passed. This is sadder by the minute. Good lord but it answers why I couldn't find anything on this little one. All I an say i'm glad Jane went to Eaglehawk.
Thank you Still digesting all that you and Majm have found
Marriage to: Martino BORSERIO
Victoria, Australia Registration #: 00666 BMD Victoria
St Killians Catholic church, Sandhurst, bendigo Victoria Australia Mar 22 1865
I have also personally seen this in the church earlier this year. Wasn't allowed to take photo But this I personally know. This man is my GG grandad. They had Martin & then he had son James who had my father James. There were other children as well
Thank you
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Hi,
Civil registration of deaths did not commence in New South Wales until 1 March 1856. The Early Church Records cover many burials, but are by no means 'complete'. It seems likely that Jane died before the civil registration process was in operation, assuming she died in NSW.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/topics/family-history-search/registry-records
https://www.nsw.gov.au/topics/family-history-search/family-history-research-guide
https://www.nsw.gov.au/births-deaths-marriages/about-us/history-of-registry
Trove :
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60173697 Empire 13 Feb 1856.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12980625 SMH 15 Feb 1856
... housekeepers to give notice of the death of any person on their premises within thirty days ... Ministers of religion are to receive certificates of the registration of deaths when they attend funerals. The registration is to be performed without cost ....
JM
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Hi
On the marriage certificate for Jane FISHER and Martino BORSERIE, which took place in Victoria in 1865 who were the witnesses and who gave permission for the marriage of Jane,she being under age.
What, if any, statement was made about the bride's mother- living or deceased?
Sue
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HI Sue,
I have never needed to purchase this marriage cert as I knew the details of where they married etc
BUT please if you think this can or might assist let me know & I will purchase one??
I think they can send by email from Victoria BMD & am more than happy to purchase this
Thank you again Michelle
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Although he is not your particular person of interest, I wonder if you have you seen the digitisation of the naturalisation of Martino BORSERIO
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection
Search the archives here and you will learn a lot about him and his stated arrival in Victoria.
He states he has been in Victoria for 15 years since his arrival per Star of India March 1862.
I cannot really see him on the passenger list for that voyage though there is a person listed as Barserino Agostino aged 34. Born other parts.
It is difficult to advise about the certificate of marriage for Jane (nee FISHER) and Martino.
As she is a direct ancestor of your line, it is a good support document to have in your research.
On the other hand it may not contain any information you don't already have.
I have not been able to find when her father Samuel FISHER returned to NSW. The cert may or may not show his presence at the marriage is some capacity.
There may be mention of the living or deceased status of Jane (snr) her mother or maybe not.
Tricky decision :)
ADDING. Yes it is a direct download to your email after payment
Sue
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According to the Eaglehawk Pioneer Register Volume 1 A-C, the witnesses to the marriage of Martino Borserio and Jane Fisher on 22 March 1865 were Agostino Pianto and Mary Maggetti.
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According to the Eaglehawk Pioneer Register Volume 1 A-C, the witnesses to the marriage of Martino Borserio and Jane Fisher on 22 March 1865 were Agostino Pianto and Mary Maggetti.
Do you have access to the Volume covering F surnames, if so, any entries for FISHER at all?
:D :D :D
JM
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Only brief mentions (no biographical details) of:
Charles Fisher from Yorkshire
John Fisher, policeman
Maria Fisher from Sussex
Matthew, a miner in 1857
Peter Fisher, miner 1861
William Sandon Fisher from Devonshire
William Thomas Fisher from USA.
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Hi Sue/Sparrett
Yes thank you again Martino Borserio is my GG grandfather & yes I have photocopies of the naturalisation of him. Found an awlful lot. So much appreciate this info as a lot of time cannot find much but him I do know. (Apparently he went to Sydney and worked at some stage for his ex-father in law Samuel Fisher). Barserino Agostino is Agostino Borserio - still not sure if he is related but I would presume with last name yes. The spelling of Borserio (my last name) has been misinterpreted loads. LOL
I am going to say that next time I pop over to Bendigo where martino & Jane married I will ask to view the registers again (I go once a year to visit my parents who are passed)
Off the top of my head I don't recall seeing Samueals name as a witness & I can see a helpful person has also noted this in another comment
So at a loss as to when he went back to Sydney. It appears only a short period of time in mining in Bendigo area.
Thank you so much again
Michelle
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Thank you very Jang & Yes I am very mucky to have the whole set of registers (I acquired recently) for Eaglehawk (all my dads side came from there).
I want to thank you for telling me of who the witnesses were to the marriage. I knew it wasn't Samuel as I didn't see his name but couldn't remember who) Again thanks
& believe It or not all the Fisher mentioned in the book aren't related (mine were irish and came out by themselves) .
Thanks again for your assistance
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Hi Majm,
Yes I have the whole set and the Fishers that are mentioned are of no relation.
There is 7 Fishers mentioned and all bar 2 I could rule out.
On the shipping list there is only SAmuel & Jane no other Fishers (none of these that I can connect.
Thank you again Michelle
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Hi Majm & Sparrett
I am just going over & reading all in regards to Jane Fisher
I just want to put it to rest - I am assuming that Jane may have died an unknown? & before records were really in place?? So I think I can say that unfortunately I will not ever know where this lady is buried??
Thank you again for your assistance as I found many other things out (Especially with their son Samuel - tried to look up the Randwick records -Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children - for the him but got very lost in the archives & still couldn't find record (one site I cannot master)
Thank you both again
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Hi michelle,
Re the Randwick file
In Reply #15 I gave you all there was from that record.
There were no other Fisher children admitted around that time.
I used Ancestry to locate the document and so I saw the original full record.
Sue
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Hi Sparrett,
thank you so much. For confirming that. Much appreciated as I use My Heritage.
Wherever Jane is I hope she is at peace.
Regards Michelle
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I have one more offline resource to check, it is my handwritten transcription of a document I accessed many years ago re the Hyde Park Barracks when they were functioning as a Female Asylum. To me, it would be the logical place for sheltering homeless women discharged from either Darlinghurst Gaol or Sydney Hospital in the 1850s. I am just waiting on my husband to lift the 'right' archive box down. Ahhh .... errr .... I say no more.... ::)
JM
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Hi majm
Oh my goodness I hope I am not putting you to trouble??
I thoroughly appreciate this.
I had closed the door on Jane, hoping she rested in peace.
I was just confirming as you have assisted me to no end with my family over the past couple of months.
If I could buy you and Sparrett a bunch of flowers I would as appreciation.
Again thank you and I will await your reply.
Please don't lift anything too heavy. I'm very patient.
Been working on this family off & on for 2 years
Thanks again Michelle
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL29-C9D
I am likely duplicating info already known, but I think the image of this card has quality immigration info typed up all in the one spot.
Box will be at hand before morning tea tomorrow - otherwise HE will be going without dateloaf. :D :D :D
JM
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LOL YOu have just choked me with laughter on my coffee thank you LOL
Thank you JM
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Right, shhh … the box I asked for …. Ummm …. It stops at 1851. My next box is ‘not here’ … So I have checked aghhhh …. Level 3 at Hyde Park Barracks did not become the Female Destitute Asylum until 1862, when around 150 women already in long term care of the Benevolent Asylum were moved from the Benevolent Asylum (corner of Pitt and Devonshire Streets, Sydney – where Central Station is !). So to me the question becomes … where’s my archive box for the 1850s … hopefully it has my handwritten notes including the list of the infirm women who were in the care of the Benevolent Asylum in the 1850s. My trusty notebook says ‘women SDA to HPB – 1862.’ I have phoned some rellies, and they think they may still have some of my research as they have been validating their own research. They will take a look this weekend.
JM I have made double lot of dateloaf.
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Oh JM you make me giggle.
I hope the double lot of date loaf worked (my dear nan use to make this and I haven't had it since a child - feel free to send me some - LOL)
How frustrating - not for me but for you with the box.
I can't believe you are going to so much trouble - which I appreciate VERY much.
Hopefully you find the box!! I hate when I can't find things.
Have a terrific weekend & I have copied onto my own notes in regards to the Female Destitute Asylum. (Never know when I might need to know this - I keep everything
Thank you Michelle
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Hi Michelle,
Sorry I cant help with your search for the grave but I am wondering if I have a connection to your Fisher Family from Donegal.
Mary Ann Robinson, her brother William Robertson and wife Jane Fisher all arrived on the Percy in 1841. Jane Fisher was born in Donegal but it appears she may have married at the Presbyterian 1st Derry Church in 1840 as a marriage was found there (Robinson were from Derry) for William Robinson to Jane Fisher and the witnesses are Samuel and Jane Fisher. I am thinking that your Samuel and Jane were the witness at Jane Fisher's marriage and that Samuel is Jane's brother.
This is because both your Samuel Fisher wife Jane McBride and William Robertson (Robinson) wife Jane Fisher arrived in Australia the same year, both are connected by county Donegal and Samuel and Jane Fisher were the witnesses at Jane Fisher's marriage to William.
Jane Fisher's (wife of William Robertson/Robinson) Immigration records say Father: James and Mother: Ann
Kind Regards,
Wayne Cook
Newcastle NSW Australia
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I just looked and Samuel Fisher who arrived 21 July 1841 (his parents were James Fisher and Ann Bradley both deceased). So even the parents first names also match, Jane Fisher who married William Robinson.
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Have you tried seeing if she is buried near her sister Eliza McBride who arrived age 17 and unmarried on the "Helen" 21 July 1841 with Samuel Fisher and Jane McBride?
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NSW BDM has an Ann Fisher death in 1856 reference number 5329/1856 V18565329 122A with no other details online. A transcript may help as it may have more info about where died etc. but it is strange that not even a district is mentioned.
Which might tie in with this previous post "A Presbyterian boy named Samuel FISHER who was aged 6 years in 1856 was admitted to the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children in 1856.
Have you seen that record?
In case you have not, I will give the details
Samuel FISHER. Admitted June 19th 1856. Aged 6. Religion P. Can read-No. Can write- No.
Place of birth NSW.
Description Mother dead deserted by the father who is at the Victoria diggings.
29th September 1856. Discharged to the service of Mrs SMALE , Grafton. Indentured. Signed.
Sue"
Samuel Fisher born NSW 1849 mother: Jane, Father: Samuel (this is the only Samuel Fisher born in NSW who would have been 6yo in 1856 but there are two registration numbers with the same parents names so probably registered twice)
If she died in Sydney itself than the Devonshire Street Cemetery (Sydney Burial Ground) closed in 1888 and this Cemetery was "relocated" for the extension of Central Railway Station.
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Hi Wayne,
Firstly HUGE thank you!!!!
It is a fantastic thing that you took the time to read and look at this. I am very appreciative of this.
No matter how much or little information is I always follow it up & anything can assist as you never know.
At first I was confused when reading this!! THEN it struck me what you were explaining.
That Jane Fisher is most 'probably' the 'sister of Samuel.
(DO you know I have poured over thousands of records till I was blind & had not seen this (Fresh eyes are fabulous) I have always known he must have brothers or sisters (unless the famine took them) but could find no connection anywhere.
I have no doubt you have made this connection with Jane being a sister ( I think the concrete evidence is Jame & Ann (nee Bradley) being her parents as well.
So when it comes to Eliza McBride (born 1824)
I cannot find a thing?? There is also Mary McBride (born 1823) Can't find any leads either?? (ANy suggestions welcome??)
I tried to find where Eliza was buried as I thought along this line BUT have no records of either of these 2 girls??
So thank you with Samuel (a lovely person on here helped me with him and yes this was their little boy (so sad was left as an orphan - no idea why he was left there but was) but he went onto marry and live out his life in Grafton - I tried contacting members of that family but to no avail. No one answered. I am on My Heritage & I was really the only one who researching this family.
Jane & Samuel had 6 children one boy died, Samuel - I found and James (thanks to a lovely man on Familysearch put the pieces of him together. Jane was my GG gran in Eaglehawk (she went with her dad to gold diggings), Mary died young & Sarah married
Jane (married to Samuel) has an ever so sad story of breakdowns & delusions all recorded in paper & he washed his hands of her.
I certainly thought of Devonshire Street Cemetery (Sydney Burial Ground) as to where Jane might be Samuel is at Waverley with a headstone and even though a Findagraver (I gave persmission to do a rubbing) Headstone is still not be able to be all read) Jane definately not there with them he is near daughter Sarah Ann Stacey(nee Fisher)
Jane was definiately alive in 1875 (this is her) & then disappears - Hence why came up with buried as a pauper ??
New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930
Drunk - 4 days sentence
Name: Jane Fisher Date of Admission/Photo: 3 May 1875 Gaol: Darlinghurst Gaol Location: Darlinghurst, New South Wales, Australia Record Type: Entrance Book Mar 3 1875
BUT I wonder about these McBride girls and their story - As I said feel free to through out ideas)
You have definitely opened food for thought
I WISH I could purchase a transcript BUT no record of death - most frustrating - so left hanging - Where is Jane buried.
Thank you so much for you taking the time to assist as I said you most definitely hit the nail I head I think with the sister of Samuel.
Many Many thank Michelle
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Hi Michelle,
Yes new eyes can do wonders and often we can go over the same info. I believe I have the marriages for Samuel Fisher to Jane McBride, John McBride to Sarah Hood and Jane Fisher to William Robinson (all in Derry).
I explained the way I did because I go back to Mary Ann Robinson the sister of William Robinson/Robertson who married Jane Fisher and that was how I discovered the connection (I actually googled Jane Fisher 1815 Donegal Ireland and this thread came up in the google search).
I then used your info about Samuel Fisher and Jane McBride arriving on the "Helen" in 1841 to see if they were the witnesses of William Robinson and Jane Fisher's marriage in Derry 1840 and if so, was he her brother.
Kind Regards,
Wayne
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Did you try these marriages for Eliza McBride
https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?3
In my case Mary Ann Robinson arrived 17 yo in 1841 (With William Robertson and Jane Fisher) but she didn't marry until 1849
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Hi,
It is worth looking for a 2nd marriage for Eliza McBride.
I would do this by looking at marriages for Eliza with both of these married Surnames and then seeing if an Eliza with a different surname dies with the same parents as,Eliza McBride and then look for an obit plus see if there were any births of an Eliza with the first married Surname with the same parents names as Eliza McBride.
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Thank you again so much for your wonderful assistance. My tree is private but if you ever need something with info please do ask.
Yes I had the churches/Marriages for the McBride & Fisher & thank you so much for the sister now & hoping ok I add to my tree??
I have the day off today so going to research these McBride girls to see if I find something. Thank you again for a start with these directs of mine. Ever so appreciative.
Irish records are just so hard as you know & I am just not great at them. But learning.
I do hope your Mary Ann Robinson went onto great things.
Again my sincere thank Michelle
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Thanks,
Yes feel free to add her and her William (they arrived as Robertson not Robinson on the Percy 28 August 1841) .
Mary Ann Robinson married Benjamin Cook (convict from Dublin) at Hexham NSW and lived in High Street East Maitland. Her and her husband are buried in East Maitland Cemetery.
https://www.austcemindex.com/inscription?id=8811853#images
death notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/122693777?searchTerm=death%20of%20an%20old%20resident (Benjamin Cook her son is my line)