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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cavan => Topic started by: mags c on Tuesday 12 May 20 20:02 BST (UK)
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Hi All, trying to trace any information on a Peter Flannigan. I believe he was born about 1829 in Cavan. He married a Ann Cadams about 1848....they had a girl called Mary also born in Ireland. At some point they moved to Scotland, where they had another 3 children. As far as I know Ann's parents were a Farrell Cadams and Margaret Moore. Peters family I cannot find. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you looked for him on the Scottish censuses? What were the names and birthyears/birthplaces of the 3 children born in Scotland?
When was Ann born?
If he died in Scotland anytime from 1855 onwards his parents names and mothers maiden name should be on his death cert
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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Hi Carol, yes I can find him on Scotlands people, and I have the information re his children. Its the Irish side - his parents and Ann's parents that Im having difficulty finding. Ann's parents were ( as far as I know ) Farrell Cadams and Margaret Moore. Peter's parents I have no idea. I might just have to give up but thought I would try here as a last gasp so to speak.
Regards
Margaret
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What have you found about him on SP? Did he die in Scotland after 1855? If so - have you downloaded his death cert?
Same for Ann
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Yes he died in 1859 in a Pit Accident. Ann remarried a Patrick McAulay. Ann died in 1891 in Motherwell. Again I have no names for Peters parents.
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See previous reply. Did you download his death cert? Did you download Ann’s death cert?
If you did download them - are any parents shown?
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I am unable to decipher the writing on Peters death certificate. Ann's parents were Farrell Cadams and Margaret Moore. do not have the marriage certificate for Peter and Ann.
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When were the children born in Scotland? depending on the year birth certificate may give date and place of parents' marriage.
If the eldest child was born in Ireland then it's quite likely that parents married in Ireland. Civil registration of non-Catholic marriages started 1845 (from 1864 for Catholic marriages) so if it was a Catholic ceremony then you'll need to search parish registers. However, most marriages from that period do not list the parents.
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Can you scan the part of Peters death cert showing parents names and post it here. Somebody may be able to help
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Hi please find attached info re Peter Flannigan
Thanks
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Hi all, by any chance has anyone been able to decipher Peters parents name on his death certificate. Ive been studying the certificate myself. His fathers name looks like it could be HJesmond Ceid hill mother I still have no idea.
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Hi all, by any chance has anyone been able to decipher Peters parents name on his death certificate. Ive been studying the certificate myself. His fathers name looks like it could be HJesmond Ceid hill mother I still have no idea.
The handwriting is dreadful, but I'm not seeing an overall structure of letters in column 5 that is consistent with two parents' forenames/surnames (and father's occupation and mother's maiden name), rather it looks like the same phrase written twice (once where the father's name should be, then again where the mother's name should be), the phrase starting with 'Informant can't'. I'm lost on what the third word of the phrase (on the next line) is, but again it looks the same in both instances. Regardless, my guess is that it's saying that the informant couldn't provide the parents details.
Edited to add: Column 8 is difficult to read as well, the first line looks like the informant's name - maybe 'William' [something] - then I'm seeing in the next two lines 'One of' [something] 'workmen'. If that reading is correct or close and the informant was simply another person working for Peter's employer, rather than a close friend or relative, that would explain the lack of information in column 5.
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Possibly?...
Informant can't tell
Informant can't tell
Informant.....William LAWRIE.....one of M****ford Workmen......
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Thank you both for that.. I have my suspicions that Peter may have been an orphan. Unfortunately, this is the only certificate for Peter that I have. I cannot find his marriage in either Ireland or Scotland,. One of his daughters Mary Flannigan was born in Ireland in 1855 (I think) the rest of the children I have birth certificates for and they were all born in Scotland. His wife Ann, remarried after Peter died. But I really appreciate the help. Ive been going round all the old types of handwriting trying to decipher it :D :D