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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Cardiganshire => Topic started by: john51 on Tuesday 19 May 20 11:42 BST (UK)
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Anyone reaserching the Evans family of tailors from Tregaron ? John Evans born abt 1809 a tailor, son Thomas born 1834 also a tailor & grandson Evan born 1860 a tailor who moved to Pontypridd abt 1890.
Also interested in general information about Tregaron.
Thanks, John
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Have you checked the Surname Interests Board? Scroll to bottom of page and link is under Tools
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If you find anywhere in Tregaron you want photos of, happy to help, I'm only up the road. Take a look at https://www.facebook.com/groups/Tregaron (https://www.facebook.com/groups/Tregaron) There are a few old pictures & info on there, might be someone knows more for you
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If you find anywhere in Tregaron you want photos of, happy to help, I'm only up the road. Take a look at https://www.facebook.com/groups/Tregaron (https://www.facebook.com/groups/Tregaron) There are a few old pictures & info on there, might be someone knows more for you
Many thanks petmas . I will pass this to my cousin whose wife Vicki Evans family are from Tregaron. They do have a caravan in Pembrokeshire so when things are back to normal they plan to visit Tregaron.
Best wishes, John
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Do you have the Father back further than John?
Or Winifreds maiden name?
EVANS, WINIFRED mmn JONES
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in TREGARON Volume 27 Page 70
Bapt;
14 Jan 1813, St David, Llanddewibrefi, Cardiganshire
WINIFRED Jones, Daug of THOS/WINIFRED
Sibling;
ANNE 29 May 1820
JOHN Evans was likely Bapt 06 Oct 1811, St Caron, Tregaron to JOHN/MARY
Bapt of THOMAS same Church 15 Apr 1834 to THOMAS/WINIFRED
All on FreeREG
Trish :)
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Hi Trish, Thanks for the info on Winifred & John' I did have her maiden name but not baptism. I hadn't gone further back than John. The 1851 census gives his birthplace as Llanbadarn-Fawr & there is no Freereg birth for him there . Also the various census evidence suggests a birth year of around 1809 so I decided there was no clear evidence for his baptism & thus parents. It may be that the 1811 baptism was a delayed one for him but I don't think that is sufficient evidence to put that in his tree.
This Evans tree is of my cousin Anthony Moore's wife Victoria Evans & is part of my Moore 2020 public tree on ancestry. Do you have a public tree I can see please?
Thanks again for contacting me.
Best wishes, John
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Hi John,
Please remove your email for security reasons.
I was just trying to help but am not related to this Family.
Best wishes,
Trish :)
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Hi Trish, email removed. Many thanks for your help, John
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Your welcome :)
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FindMyPast has 2 baptismal records for Thomas -
a) transcript only, baptismal date 15 April 1834
b) image of register (page 108) and transcript, baptismal date 15 April 1835
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Tenuous
William septimus davies of cwmann. Tailor. Mother an Evan's from derwydd. Father from betws bledrws. Might be worth following up.
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Hi John,I think this is the family I have been researching. Thomas Evans married Sarah Jones and had a daughter Winifred Evans.
Kind regards
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Thomas Evans seems to be "missing" in people's trees during 1881. One tree has the family in 1881 at Pwll next to Station Rd, with the married Sarah being a tailor's wife. Thomas's name looks to have been initially partly entered above hers as Head, but then crossed out.
The reason for this may well be because he was probably in the Joint counties lunatic asylum (in Carmarthen)
see https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3419763/3419771/128/
and https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3307679/3307683/9/
and https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4355638/4355643/24/
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I knew that Thomas had tried to commit suicide but hadn’t realised he had been put into an Asylum. Thanks for the information.
Kind regards
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Sarah Jones from the marriage cert in 1859, was living at Ochrbrynlloi, father Evan Jones a hosier. Evan seems to have died in 1885 - see newspaper report into his sudden death at Ochrbrynlloi, Llanddewi Brefi, after roofing his thatched cottage. https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3044236/3044241/66/
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You have a lot of information. I didn’t know this either.
Kind regards
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Ochr bryn lloi is here: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=52.22909&lon=-3.86770&layers=6&b=1&marker=52.229227,-3.867852
In 1881 there's an Evan Jones farming 20 acres, but aged 78 born 1803 living at Ochr brynlloi born Nantlles (dwelling). His wife Elizabeth Jones born 1801 at Allt ddu, with son Rees aged 40 and daughter Elizabeth aged 26 both unmarried. Also with then are 2 children boarding, one David aged 12 born Cei Newydd (New Quay) and Thomas aged 2 born Ystrad Glamorgan - could be a son o a relative who has gone to work in coal mines.
RG11 Piece 5452 Folio 42 Page 4 Reg Dist Tregaron (Parish of Tregaron or Caron Is Clawdd)
1861 it's called Tan brynlloi and you may be able to follow from the link if you have a tree
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=8768&h=15238133&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=8059
1851 - here is Sarah aged with Evan who is a hosier (as described on marriage cert) & rest of family at Ochrbrynlloi https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8861/images/CGNHO107_2487_2487-0631?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=15895370
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That’s a shame ,I’m not a member of ancestry so unable to see the photograph of Sarah.
May I ask if you are a relative ?
Winifred married a Nathaniel, these would be my Great Grandparents.
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Nantylles is about a mile and a half out of Tregaron :
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=52.22930&lon=-3.90770&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld
Allt Ddu is either the cottage or the farm
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=52.25344&lon=-3.90663&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld
Marriage notice for Rees Jones the son of Evan (Sarah's brother) of Ochrbrynlloi married 14 March 1883 to Margaret Jones Pentre Hall at Tregaron Church
Relevant to the time of year we are now in is this rather interesting series of cases at the Petty Sessions relating to over-doing celebrations around Christmas & New Year (drunkenness, illegal sale of alcohol in pub after hours and generally fighting)! There is a Rees Jones mentioned who could well be the Rees above. Also on the page under Llanbadarn Fawr is a paragraph about Indecent language - it gives and idea of how rural communities in this part still kept up traditional ways of dealing with things they saw as being immoral etc, by parading the miscreants round the village on the "ceffyl pren" (hobby horse) as a punishment. https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3308276/3308282/66/
There's also an Evan Jones Allt Ddu involved in alleged assault case that was dismissed: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3345162/3345168/51/
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Thanks for this information much appreciated.
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No not related.