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Title: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Johnsonsyard on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:10 BST (UK)
Advice please. My 3rd great Uncle emigrated to Canada and is  recorded on the 1861 ontario census Delaware Middlesex Ontario. Married to Janet Cazow 1847 Scotland. Trying to find death certificate . Any idea how I do this ? Thanx
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:18 BST (UK)
Maybe him on the 1881 census Victoria North Ontario.  ???

Thomas Howie   58 born 1823 Scotland, Widowed. Farmer.
James Howie   29 born 1852 Scotland.
Margaret Howie   26 born 1855 Scotland.
Janet Howie   18 born 1863 Ontario.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1881&op=&img&id=e008443317

1871 census Victoria North Ontario

Thomas Howie   50
John Howie   23
James Howie   20
Margaret Howie   17
Mary Howie   14
Janet Howie   8

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1871&op=&img&id=4396621_00536

Sandra
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:21 BST (UK)

1891 census Somerville, Victoria North, Ontario.

Thomas Howie   60 born Scotland., Widowed. Farmer.
Margret Howie   35
Jumitt Howie   27
John Howie   25
Jessie Farmoler   15 born England. Domestic.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=img&id=30953_148175-00691

Did not see him listed here

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1307826

Sandra
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:38 BST (UK)
Margaret's death, 1934

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JK6J-N5H

John's death 1916

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNMY-LLD
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:44 BST (UK)
Janet Howie Flett - 15 October 1863 - 20 May 1946 Verulam, Victoria, Ontario.
Burial Burys Green. Somerville.

Father - Thomas Howie - Mother Janet Howie - Spouse Josiah Flett

Sandra


Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:49 BST (UK)
1901 census. Thomas 80, living with son John & family

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHGL-4SS
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 19:54 BST (UK)
Death of John Howie - 21 december 1916 Verlam Victoria Ontario

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNMY-LLD

Burial - Fenelon Falls Cemetry.

No mention of Howie burials - https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2374332/fenelon-falls-cemetery
Looks like quite a few Howie burials at Fenelon Falls, maybe an email or snail mail letter to the cemetery.


Sandra
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:10 BST (UK)
John & Family, 1911 census. No Thomas. He must have died between 1901 & 1911

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27XV-LYW
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Johnsonsyard on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:17 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for this fantastic information. Is it possible to find a death entry for Thomas.? I believe a certificate would show his parents in Scotland . Trying to identify his mother ( maiden name ) 
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:21 BST (UK)
Might be worth researching these entries found on Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php


HOWIE, Janet   St John's, Bury's Green   Victoria   Somerville   KW-V-299

HOWIE, Thomas   St John's, Bury's Green   Victoria   Somerville   KW-V-299

HOWIE, Janet (Flett)   St John's, Bury's Green   Victoria   Somerville   KW-V-299

HOWIE, John   St John's, Bury's Green   Victoria   Somerville   KW-V-299

HOWIE, Margaret   St John's, Bury's Green   Victoria   Somerville   KW-V-299

Sandra
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:32 BST (UK)

HOWIE, Thomas   1821 - 1901 (aged 80)

Bury Green United Church / St John's Cemetery, Victoria County, ON

http://geneofun.on.ca/cems/ON/ONVIC14118/?filter=howie

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2773343
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:33 BST (UK)

HOWIE, Janet   1822 - 1866 (aged 44)

Bury Green United Church / St John's Cemetery, Victoria County, ON

http://geneofun.on.ca/cems/ON/ONVIC14118/?filter=howie

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2773341

Sandra
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:34 BST (UK)
Thomas possibly born Neilston, Renfrewshire, 27/04/1823 to Thomas Howie & Janet Brown

Believe it or not, they are 2 marriages

Thomas Howie to Janet Cadzow, 21/05/1847, Lesmahagow

Thomas Howie to Janet Cadzow, 15/06/1847, Cadder
Title: Re: Thoma Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:35 BST (UK)
Death of John Howie - 21 december 1916 Verlam Victoria Ontario

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNMY-LLD

Burial - Fenelon Falls Cemetry.

No mention of Howie burials - https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2374332/fenelon-falls-cemetery
Looks like quite a few Howie burials at Fenelon Falls, maybe an email or snail mail letter to the cemetery.


Sandra

John and Dorothy headstone inscription

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2773346

Sandra




Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:37 BST (UK)

Margaret Howie headstone inscription - 4 May 1934.

Bury Green United Church / St John's Cemetery, Victoria County, ON

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2773344

Sandra
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Kloumann on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:40 BST (UK)
Looks like the Lesmahagow marriage is the correct one.

Janet born there, 17/07/1821 to James Cadzow & Margaret Gilchrist
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 20:41 BST (UK)
Janet Cadzow  - 1821–1866
BIRTH 9 JUN 1821 - Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
DEATH 30 OCT 1866 -  Somerville Township, Victoria County, Ontario.

Parents James Cadzow - 1791 = 1869  Alma Bank, Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire.


Margaret Ann Gilchrist - 1794–1849
BIRTH 28 MARCH 1794 - Lesmahagow, Lanark
DEATH 1849 - Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland


James Cadzow  - 1791–1869
BIRTH 1791  Carnwath, Lanarkshire, Scotland
DEATH 9 JAN 1869  Alma Bank, Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire.

source ancestry tree.
Thomas parents

John Howie - 1799–1881  (shows a memorial plaque - possibly in a church)
BIRTH 21 FEB 1799  Camlachie, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
DEATH MAY 23, 1881  Broom Knowe, Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire.

Mary Wharrie Brown 1796–1859
BIRTH 3 DEC 1796  Holland Bush, Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
DEATH 13 DEC 1859  Broom Knowe, Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire,



Sandra


 
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: RunKitty on Wednesday 20 May 20 21:52 BST (UK)

HOWIE, Thomas   1821 - 1901 (aged 80)

Bury Green United Church / St John's Cemetery, Victoria County, ON

http://geneofun.on.ca/cems/ON/ONVIC14118/?filter=howie

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/2773343

Thomas Howie death notice in the Watchman Warder paper 25 april 1901, page 9.  Thomas died April 11 in the township of Somerville, aged 80 years and 3 months. 

http://vitacollections.ca/kl-digitalarchive/3330699/page/10?q=%22Thomas%20Howie%22&docid=OOI.3330699

RK
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 20 May 20 23:04 BST (UK)
Well done RK, cracked it.  :)

Sandra
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: Johnsonsyard on Thursday 21 May 20 09:24 BST (UK)
Absolutely marvellous everyone. Cant thank you enough  .

Nick
Title: Re: Thomas Howie b 1826 give or take 5 yrs last seen in Canada.
Post by: macwil on Thursday 21 May 20 10:13 BST (UK)
. . .
Believe it or not, they are 2 marriages

Thomas Howie to Janet Cadzow, 21/05/1847, Lesmahagow

Thomas Howie to Janet Cadzow, 15/06/1847, Cadder

 These are probably the dates that the 'Proclamation to Marry' was made/recorded in their respective parishes rather than date of marriage.
Scottish marriages usually took place in the bride's home and the Church authories were more concerned with recording that the proper procedure was adhered to and the actual marriage date was often unrecorded.
One would need to view the OPRs on ScotlandsPeople to see exactly what was written in the registers.