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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: kieran257 on Thursday 21 May 20 14:36 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
Has anyone any idea on where I could get a list of Nuns for America as I know my great aunt became a nun Mary McKernan and found her in Brooklyn in 1900 but she seems to be back in Northern Ireland for the 1901 census but for the 1911 census she is gone.
I can't seem to track her on a ship either which is very strange.
I am really struggling in where I can go next.
Thank you for all your help it is so much appreciated
Kieran
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No info given re birthyear/birthplace so limited in searching both censuses
The only US 1900 entry for Brooklyn I can find was b 1877 and was a cousin to the head of household -occ servant
A Mary McKernan aged 24 arrived Queenstown Ireland from NY 9.12.1902 occ servant
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Was this the one - from previous enquiry ??? The name seems familiar.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=460356.0
Hi all,
I am hopping someone will be able to help me with the puzzle. I am trying to find out what happened Mary McKernan
NAME : Mary McKernan
DATE OF BIRTH: 07/05/1877
Quote :- BIRTHPLACE: Drumderg, Draperstown, Co Derry, Northern Ireland
FATHERS NAME : Patrick McKernan
MOTHERS NAME : Anne O'Neill
SIBLINGS: Annie, James, Sarah, Theresa, Patrick, John
ADDITIONAL INFO : I found her in the 1900 census in Brooklyn after that she disappears. I have been told that she was a nun but I can't find any record of that. I did check other years of the census and can't find her.
I would be very grateful of any help you can give me as I am completing this research for an elderly aunt as she would be so happy if I could tell her what happened.
Thanks for all your help
Kieran
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Looks very much like the Mary McKernan in my reply above. Nothing to suggest she was a nun in the USA
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Ten years ago when we first started looking for Mary. You were checking out The Presentation Sisters but I presume that led no where.
Convents or orders of nuns or “sisters” usually changed the names of the members to depict the change that has happened in their lives, which makes it more difficult to locate her. Unless she is mentioned in an obituary of any siblings ? Did you explore those avenues. ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ph9/
This one - Sister Mary Malachy McKernan died in 1969 but they dropped the "MC" and she was buried in Missouri as Mary Malachy Kernan - died 1969 aged 97 years - would make her birth slightly earlier than what you want 1872. !!! Might be something to investigate further.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/48069587
Sandra
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Oh well, maybe not that one Kieran - found a naturalization in Mexico for Rose Mary Kernan born 1 September 1974 Collinstown Westmeath Ireland - religious name Sister Mary Malachy Kernan- teacher of Sister of Loretto. Loretto Convent. Bernalillo, New Mexico.
She entered New York in 1885 on the SS City Of Rome - so to early.
Back to the drawing board............
We were lucky years ago with getting info on Catholic Priests but sadly I've never come across anything for Nuns.
Sandra
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Hi all,
Thanks very much for all your kind help. The presentation sisters didn't work out at all.
The only other thing I heard is that John or Johnny as he was know apparently went with Mary to America. Could they first of went to Scotland and then on to America.
Johnny was supposed to of been a Police Officer for the NYPD?
Johnny died in Scotland
Thanks very much for all your kind help
Kieran
PS Sent to get more information on Mary Malachy Kernan
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A familysearch.org webpage has this to say about finding Nuns:-
"Priests or Nuns
Records relating to the lives of priests and/or nuns in the Catholic church are to be found primarily in two sources. The Irish Catholic Directory (published annually since 1836) and the published list Maynooth Students & Ordinations Index 1795-1982 by Patrick J. Hamell (Maynooth: no date) covering the first 100 years of those who entered the seminary at Maynooth. "
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Ireland_Catholic_Church_Records
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The probate of her fathers will - was James Connor a relative ?
Probate of the Will of Patrick McKernan late of Drumderg County Londonderry Farmer who died 16 February 1910 granted at Londonderry to James Connor Farmer.
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx
Sandra
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Date of USA 1900 census was 1 June 1900.
Is this Mary back in Ireland with her father Patrick and siblings for the 1901 Ireland Census ?
Drumderg, Draperstown, Londonderry,
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Draperstown/Drumderg/1543945/
Patrick Mc Kernan 63
Mary Mc Kernan 22
Patrick Mc Kernan 20
Annie Mc Kernan 18
Sarah Mc Kernan 15
James Mc Kernan 12
Teresa Mc Kernan 9
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Yes you are correct she is back home in 1901 which seems strange?
Her sister Annie went to America in 1908 was Mary away before that or after as they are both not in the 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Draperstown/Drumderg/610114/
Mc Kernon James 22
Mc Kernon Sarah 24
Mc Kernon Teresa 18
The three above stayed at home.
Thanks for all your help as always very much appreciated
Kieran
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Remind me, what happened to Annie ?
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your reply. Well Annie married John O'Halloran and was in Philadelphia and had four sons but there was no sign of Mary with her.
If you need more info on Annie just let me know and I can put more in.
Thanks again for all your help
Kieran
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It was years and years ago and we had a few different threads but I remember the family now. Did we find any obituary for Annie ?
Anna O'Halloran - 1894 - 3 January 1962 Philadelphia - aged 67 years.
Spouse: John O'Halloran
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
No obituary was every found but she was in a home and buried by the state.
Also none of her children had obituaries either.
Unless we look for the obituaries of the Gardiners that Mary was living with in the 1900 Brooklyn census?
Thanks again for all your help
Kieran
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That is sad. :'(
Mary was a cousin of Anna McKernan Gardiner. Presumably Anthony McKernan (Anna's father) and Patrick McKernan (Mary's father) must have been brothers.
Did you find a death notice for Patrick McKernan or Ann McNeill McKernan ?
Had another look thru the passenger lists but nothing jumping out.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks for all as always very much appreciated.
Well I have found this and it seems to be Mary going from Liverpool to New York
She is listed in Ellis Island as Mary McKenan and arrives 3 Oct 1901.
However, I can't read where in Philadelphia she is going to its a John McKernan who could be her uncle. So it would be after this she would become a nun.
Maybe her Nationalization will be able to be found or his death as his obituary could maybe list her ?
Thanks again for all your help so much appreciated
Kieran
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It looks like John McKenan uncle 672 3rd Ave.
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Hi Shellyesq,
Thanks for your help.
Can you find them in the 1905 census etc?
Thanks very much for your help as always
Kieran
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Unless they were in New York, there is no 1905 census.
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Unless they were in New York, there is no 1905 census.
Can you find them in any census at all?
Thanks
Kieran
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Hi All,
I have found the family in the 1900 census
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Mckernan Head Male 54 Ireland
Jane Mckernan Wife Female 52 Ireland
Michal Mckernan Son Male 19 Ireland
Mary Mckernan Daughter Female 16 Pennsylvania
John and Jane married in Aug 1869 in Draperstown Co Derry
Can anyone get them in other census or any deaths etc
Thanks for all your kind help
Kieran
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Hi All,
I have found the family in the 1900 census
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Mckernan Head Male 54 Ireland
Jane Mckernan Wife Female 52 Ireland
Michal Mckernan Son Male 19 Ireland
Mary Mckernan Daughter Female 16 Pennsylvania
John and Jane married in Aug 1869 in Draperstown Co Derry
The 1900 census referenced-
1900 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3WY-LVB
John Mckernan died in 1906. Address same as 1900 census, 1149 Winton St.
Philly DC: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDPH-62G
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Edited to add-
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
31 Aug 1906, Fri • Page 7
Death notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55078519/john-mckernan-death-notice/
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His wife Jane can be found living with her daughter Mary who is married to Frank J Owens in the 1920/1930 census
1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFYY-HF4
1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH4K-5JW
Jane died in 1936.
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
21 Apr 1936, Tue • Page 24
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55077992/jane-mckernan-obit/
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Hi RJ137,
Thank you so much for all your help. This is wonderful can you get the 1910 census as it might list Mary the nun that I am looking for?
Also can Micheal be found did he marry Mary Agnes McGuire
Thanks again
Kieran
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Hi All,
Can anyone help me get copies of these obituaries to these families as so far this is all I have found.
Donald J McKernan died 17 Apr 1966, Williamsport, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
Anna McKernan died April 1985, Williamsport, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
Thomas McKernan died 5 Oct 1946
Ella McKernan died
Thomas A McKernan died on 3 Jan 1964
Lucille J McKernan died on 13 Jan 1992
Eileen R Weber died on 13 Mar 1998
Marian Theresa Murphy died on 11 May 1992
Patricia Mary Recke died on 8 Sep 2000
Mary T Owens died on 3 May 1962 Philadelphia, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, USA
Frank J Owens died on 1967
All probably in "The Philadelphia Inquirer"
Thank you very much for all your help it is so much appreciated
Kieran
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Donald J McKernan
Williamsport Sun-Gazette
Williamsport, Pennsylvania
18 Apr 1966, Mon • Page 11
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55146263/donald-j-mckernan-obit/
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Lucille McKernan
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
14 Jan 1992, Tue • Page 6
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55146964/lucille-mckernan-death-notice/
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Lucille (McKernan) Millio
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
10 May 1990, Thu • Page 68
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55147397/lucille-mckernan-millio-death-notice/
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Marian Theresa Murphy
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
13 May 1992, Wed • Page 48
Death Notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55147816/marian-t-murphy-death-notice/
Obit w/ photo: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55147914/marian-t-murphy-obit/
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Patricia Mary Recke
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
10 Sep 2000, Sun • Page 76
Death notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55148152/patricia-mrecke-death-notice/
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Mary T Owens
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
04 May 1962, Fri • Page 31
Death notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55148401/mary-t-owens-death-notice/
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Frank J Owens
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
28 Nov 1967, Tue • Page 30
Death notice: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55148684/frank-j-owens-death/
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Hi RJ137,
Thank you so much for all your help and getting me the obituaries:
Can you please look for these ones too:
Robert H McKernan who died 16 March 1998 Fayette, Georgia,
Donald Joseph McKernan who died 12 Oct 2000 Pennsylvania
Regina Teresa Crouse who died 16 Apr 2007 Williamsport, Lycoming
Vincent R A Crouse who died 2015
Ann C Paris who died 26 June 2002 Tallshassee, Florida
Francis Bernard Paris who died 2001 Tallshassee, Florida
Anna McKernan died April 1985, Williamsport, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
Ella McKernan died 2 July 1926
Thank you very much for all your help it is very much appreciated
Kieran
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Ann C. Paris
Tallahassee Democrat
Tallahassee, Florida
Friday, June 28, 2002 - Page 25
Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ppn/
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Francis B. Paris
Tallahassee Democrat
Tallahassee, Florida
15 Dec 2001, Sat • Page 20
Obit:
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55228094/francis-b-paris-obit-pt1/
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55228219/francis-b-paris-obit-pt2/
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Vincent R A Crouse
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2015/03/vincent-r-a-crouse/
https://www.crousefuneralhome.com/obituary/3017724
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Richard T. McKernan
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2019/05/richard-thomas-mckernan/
https://www.courant.com/obituaries/hc-obituary-richard-t-mckernan-20190529-story.html
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Regina Teresa McKernan
https://www.geni.com/people/Regina-Crouse-McKernan/6000000001985490475
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Donald Joseph McKernan who died 12 Oct 2000 Pennsylvania
Obit: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ppo/
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Hi RJ137,
Thanks for all your kind help it is so much appreciated.
Anna E McKernan Lynch Martin died 3 Apr 1985 wife of Donald J McKernan
Jermone Crouse died in 1978 Williamsport, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
Edwine C Crouse died November 1975 Williamsport, Lycoming, Pennsylvania, USA
some of the links won't open below as I live in UK
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2015/03/vincent-r-a-crouse
Vincent R A Crouse
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2015/03/vincent-r-a-crouse/
https://www.crousefuneralhome.com/obituary/3017724
Richard T. McKernan
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2019/05/richard-thomas-mckernan/
https://www.courant.com/obituaries/hc-obituary-richard-t-mckernan-20190529-story.html
Thanks very much for all your kind help it is so much appreciated
Kieran
PS will send a PM
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Vincent R A Crouse
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2015/03/vincent-r-a-crouse/
https://www.crousefuneralhome.com/obituary/3017724
Hope this works-
I printed those pages from Microsoft print to PDF and saved.
Click on the links below and open in adobe reader. Everything from the website page will be there including any images. OR you can save as a PDF file on computer and then open that saved file.
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Richard T. McKernan
https://www.sungazette.com/obituaries/2019/05/richard-thomas-mckernan/
https://www.courant.com/obituaries/hc-obituary-richard-t-mckernan-20190529-story.html
Total size was too large to upload all four at once.
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Dear RJ137,
Thank you so very much for all your help. Can you please find any of these obituaries:
Mrs Ella McKernon [Mrs Ella Donnelly]
Death Date: 2 Jul 1926
Death Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Mary Keenan nee O’Halloran died 26 Apr 1932, Auburn ,St Josephs Hospital, NSW, Australia
Peter Paul O’Halloran died 12 Jun 1938 Charleston, South Carolina, USA
Morris W McCaughin, of 559 N. 15th St. Died 31 Jul 1972
R. McCaughin died 28th April 1944, Residence 221 OuUm St
John Lynch died in Manhattan New York 18 April 1899
Anna Elizabeth Lynch Martin 27 Jun 1985 OR 3 Apr 1985 wife of Donald J McKernan
Williamsport, Lycoming, Pennsylvania
Francis Joseph Owens died 11 Feb 2002
Thank you so much for all your help it is very much appreciated.
Kieran
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Morris W McCaughin, of 559 N. 15th St. Died 31 Jul 1972
Morris W McCaughin
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
02 Aug 1972, Wed • Page 30
Death: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/20066364/the-philadelphia-inquirer/
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R. McCaughin died 28th April 1944, Residence 221 OuUm St
R. McCaughin
Rodney Morris McCaughin
Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125984682
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
26 May 1944, Fri • Page 4
Missing: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/20066420/the-philadelphia-inquirer/
The Philadelphia Inquirer
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
14 Apr 1948, Wed • Page 45
Funeral: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55649972/rodney-mccaughin-funeral/
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Francis Joseph Owens died 11 Feb 2002
Francis Joseph Owens
Listed as Frank J. Owens
SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JPXM-BJW
Daily Press
Newport News, Virginia
13 Feb 2002, Wed • Page 30
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55649055/frank-j-owens-obit/
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Mary Keenan nee O’Halloran died 26 Apr 1932, Auburn ,St Josephs Hospital, NSW, Australia
Mary Keenan
The Daily Telegraph
Wed 27 Apr 1932
Page 6
Funeral: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=831373.0;attach=515732
The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate
Thu 5 May 1932
Page 3
Death: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=831373.0;attach=515733
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Peter Paul O’Halloran died 12 Jun 1938 Charleston, South Carolina, USA
Evening Post
Charleston, South Carolina
June 13, 1938
Death: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pqo/
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Detailed Long article-
Charleston News and Courier
Charleston, South Carolina
June 13, 1938
Death: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pqn/
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Dear RJ137,
Thank you for all your kind help. I am hoping that you will be able to help again with obituaries:
Michal McKernan died 27 Jun 1951
Emily McKernan died 29 May 1957 Pennsylvania
Philip P Mckernan died 14 Jun 1965 Pennsylvania
Minnie McKernan nee I Reiber died ? Philips wife
Michal McKernan died 27 Jun 1951 died 25 AUG 1996 • Mantua, Gloucester, New Jersey, USA
Francis Mckernan died in 1925 Connecticut, U.S.A?
James Joseph Mckernan died in 1987 Pennsylvania
Thank you very much for all your help it is so much appreciated
Kieran
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Just a couple from me............... :)
Philip P Mckernan died 14 Jun 1965 Pennsylvania
Kieran
Philadelphia Daily News Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
15 Jun 1965, Tue Page 30
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63701835/obituary-for-philip-r-mckernan-aged/
Sandra
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Michal McKernan died 27 Jun 1951
Kieran
The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
28 Jun 1951, Thu Page 39
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63701914/michael-mckernan-28-june-1951/
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index - shows Minnie Rioeber/McKernan remarried
Minnie Ida Char - Minnie Char McKernan - Minnie Rizzo - M Rizzo - Minnie Ida Reiber
Birth Date 01/06/1907 Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Death Date 15/02/1988
Father Herman Reiber - Mother Gertrude Robinson
Notes: Jul 1944: Name listed as Minnie Ida Char - Mar 1947: Name listed as Minnie Char McKernan- 8 Jan 1979 - Name listed as Minnie Ida Rizzo - 10 Jan 1998: Name listed as M I Rizzo
Sandra
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Minnie McKernan nee I Reiber died ? Philips wife
Kieran
Slight difference in death date.
The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
12 Feb 1988, Fri Page 70
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63702040/obituary-for-minnie-i-rizzo/
SSDI - M. I. Rizzo - Birth Date 1 Jun 1907 - Death Date 15 Feb 1988
Sandra
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Francis Mckernan died in 1925 Connecticut, U.S.A?
Kieran
Francis/Frank McKernan)
Hartford Courant Hartford, Connecticut
20 Dec 1925, Sun Page 18
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63702139/frank-mckernan-20-december/
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63702145/francis-mckernan-column-2/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/90339453/francis-mckernan
Sandra
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Michal McKernan died 27 Jun 1951 died 25 AUG 1996 • Mantua, Gloucester, New Jersey, USA
Kieran
Presume died 25 August 1996 would be Edward V McKernan
The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
27 Aug 1996, Tue Page 14
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63702278/obituary-for-edward-v-mckernan-aged/
Sandra
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Alice McKernan - wife of Edward V McKernan.
The Philadelphia Inquirer Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
20 Dec 1990, Thu Page 38
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/63702298/obituary-for-alice-t-mckerkam-aged-61/
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
As always thank you very much for all your help with these obituaries:
Can you find one for
Bridget McKernan who died in 1884 maybe from Connecticut
John McKernan who died in 1887 maybe from Connecticut
James Joseph Mckernan died in 1987 Pennsylvania
Thank you again for all your help it is so much appreciated
Kieran
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Hi Sandra and everyone,
As always thank you very much for all your help with these obituaries:
Can you find one for
Bridget McKernan who died in 1884 maybe from Connecticut Also can Bridget be found in the census i found her in the 1880 where she was 62 and a widow in Hartford Connecticut.
Frank McKernan was 34 in 1880 born in 1846 ? is there a birth certicate for him that can be found?
John McKernan who died in 1887 maybe from Connecticut
James Joseph Mckernan died in 1987 Pennsylvania
Thank you again for all your help it is so much appreciated
Kieran
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Hi Sandra,
Yes you are correct she is back home in 1901 which seems strange?
Her sister Annie went to America in 1908 was Mary away before that or after as they are both not in the 1911 census.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Draperstown/Drumderg/610114/
Mc Kernon James 22
Mc Kernon Sarah 24
Mc Kernon Teresa 18
The three above stayed at home.
Thanks for all your help as always very much appreciated
Kieran
Hi all an update on Mary.
Mary was recorded as Mary McKenan and arrived on 3 Oct 1901 going to her uncle Thomas McKernan after that can't find her again