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Title: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: LeNeve on Thursday 21 May 20 16:58 BST (UK)
I’m looking for the family of Louisa Gertrude Simmons. I believe she was born around 1890 Gt Yarmouth.
She married George Charles Underwood. They had Edna, Louisa and Robert Underwood
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 21 May 20 17:05 BST (UK)
Have you located them on the 1911 census as that should confirm her place of birth


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What information does the marriage give for her father
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: osprey on Thursday 21 May 20 17:30 BST (UK)
marriage 30 Oct 1909 Great Yarmouth parish church
Charles George Underwood bach 21 carter 32 North Quay father William bricklayer
Louisa Gertrude spin  Simmons 20 Gt Yarmouth father James Thomas Simmons labourer
witnesses John James Simmons & Kate Lovick
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: LeNeve on Thursday 21 May 20 17:30 BST (UK)
On the census it says Great Yarmouth, but I can’t seem to find a birth for her.

Her fathers name was down as Thomas Simmons but again, I’ve struggled to locate him
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: heywood on Thursday 21 May 20 17:37 BST (UK)
1891 1502/52
Great Yarmouth
Thomas Simmonds 51 yrs
Ellen Simmonds   42 yrs
William Simmonds 20 Yrs
John Simmonds   14 ys
Alfred Simmonds 10 yrs
Edward Simmonds 7 yrs
George Simmonds 6 yrs
Harry Simmonds 5 yrs
Louisa Simmonds 1 Yr
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: osprey on Thursday 21 May 20 17:40 BST (UK)
This may be a different Louisa but school admission 10 Jan 1898 in Great Yarmouth for Louisa Simmons born 13 10 1890 (not 20 at marriage then!) address 96 George St, parent or guardian Mary Ann, no mention of Thomas.

 :-\
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: LeNeve on Thursday 21 May 20 17:59 BST (UK)
Hmmm...the school record could be her. I found a man that could possibly be her father and he died in 1893. This guys wife passed away 1900 tho. So who would the Mary Ann be?
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: heywood on Thursday 21 May 20 18:51 BST (UK)
LeNeve,
You haven’t mentioned the 1891 census - do you think that is her?
As you say there are possible deaths for parents.

In 1881 1756/126/52

Thomas is an Army Pensioner and the children are born in different places.

James, abt 1878 is born in Warley, Essex (possibly he is John in 1891)
GRO 1878 John James Simmons mmn Walker , Billericay

Witness to the marriage - John James

1901 1809/182/15

Has a Louise H Simmons 12 yrs as sister in law to Frederick Haggate.
His wife Nellie (abt 1873) shows born Chatham.

Ellen Simmons 7 yrs in 1881 shows b Warley, Essex although her brother William  is born Chatham.  :-\

Maybe/not?
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 21 May 20 22:23 BST (UK)
1939 gives her dob as 1893
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: heywood on Thursday 21 May 20 22:39 BST (UK)
I presume this is her death?

Louisa Gertrude Underwood died 1974 with a birthdate 5th May 1887 :-\
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: LeNeve on Thursday 21 May 20 23:05 BST (UK)
I did wonder if perhaps, she was the daughter of the daughter Nellie
Title: Re: Louisa Gertrude Simmons (?) 1890 Gt Yarmouth?
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 21 May 20 23:17 BST (UK)
I did wonder if perhaps, she was the daughter of the daughter Nellie

Interesting idea.

The man Nellie is living with in 1901 seems to have been Frederick George Haggata b 1873 Great Plumstead. They don’t seem to have married - he married as a bachelor in 1910 to an Alice May Winter.

Perhaps the initial H in Louisa H Simmons in 1901 is for Haggata?