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Title: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: telephonist on Friday 22 May 20 07:54 BST (UK)
Looking for any information for Maude Cecelia SUMNER  in Canada, possibly Ontario.Could be as early as 1830.
Thanks
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 22 May 20 08:07 BST (UK)
Although born 1879 could this be her? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLY9-MS4

Kay

Added - And the 1881 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVFQ-SQD
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: RunKitty on Friday 22 May 20 12:15 BST (UK)
If that is the Maude you are looking for...

Marriage to James T Johns in 1905

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZ1M-Y8J

Her obit is in the Globe and Mail newspaper, 13 April 1954 page 27. 

It says that Maude C Johns died in Toronto on 12 April 1954.  Wife of the late James T Johns.  Mother of Francis W and Mrs E A Bebee (Mildred).  Home was 27 Roxborough St. W.  Interment Mount Hope Cemetery.

RK
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: telephonist on Saturday 23 May 20 00:22 BST (UK)
Thankyou for your replies, has been a help, now need to find a marriage for a Susan Elizabeth Mary Johns if possible please? She was born 1940"s .
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 23 May 20 00:52 BST (UK)
If she was only born in the 1940’s is she still alive?    Rootschat has a no living persons policy so her name needs to be removed unless you know she is deceased. 
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 23 May 20 00:56 BST (UK)
Are you looking for the daughter of Francis W Johns?? 

If so, there is an obituary in the Toronto Star for a Susan Elizabeth Siddiqui (nee Johns)...in the Oct 15 2014 edition.  Gives her dates as June 30 1946 - Oct 11 2014.

It says that Susan was the wife of F.  Mother of 4 children...2 boys- initials T, 2 girls-initials Y and S.  (Won't post full names, because they are most likely still living).  3 grandchildren named.  Obit says that she is the daughter of Helen and Francis Johns of Roxborough Street, Toronto. 

RK

NOTE - I wonder if Susan's mother is still alive.  Found her father's birth record (see below). 
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 23 May 20 01:08 BST (UK)
Francis Wylie Johns born 1908...son of James Thomas Johns and Maude Sumner. 

Birth record on familysearch

RK
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 23 May 20 01:39 BST (UK)
Obituary for Sir Francis Wyle Johns in the Globe and Mail, 24 Feb 1988 page D16. 

Obit says that he died 20 Feb 1988 in Toronto at Sunnybrook Hospital.  Husband of the late Lady Helen Elizabeth Johns.  Father of Susan (Mrs F Siddiqui).  Grandfather of 4 named children.  Brother of Mildred Oliver.  Uncle of 5 named females.  Interment Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Mount Hope Cemetery (sorry...wrote the wrong one.  Have corrected it now)

So - Susan's parents are both deceased.

RK
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: telephonist on Saturday 23 May 20 05:26 BST (UK)
Wow thanks so much for this info, I wonder if you could please PM me with the names of the children as they should still be living.
Kindest regards.
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 23 May 20 11:14 BST (UK)
Great finds RK

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/susan-siddiqui-obituary?pid=189974198

Sandra
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 23 May 20 11:23 BST (UK)
In case it helps with an obit RK - Francis Wylie Johns - 20 February 1988 Toronto.

Helen Elizabeth Watson perhaps 1982 Toronto.

Sandra
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 23 May 20 11:31 BST (UK)

Emery A Bebee - husband of Mary Mildred Johns.
Tallahassee Democrat
Tallahassee, Florida
21 Apr 1990, Sat    Page 28

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/51931299/emery-a-bebee-21-april-1990/

Sandra
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 23 May 20 16:23 BST (UK)
Wow thanks so much for this info, I wonder if you could please PM me with the names of the children as they should still be living.
Kindest regards.

You are very welcome.  Glad I could help.

Sandra has posted a link to Susan's obituary (Reply #9 - top one on this page), so you can find the names there.  :)

RK
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: RunKitty on Saturday 23 May 20 16:42 BST (UK)
In case it helps with an obit RK - Francis Wylie Johns - 20 February 1988 Toronto.

Helen Elizabeth Watson perhaps 1982 Toronto.

Sandra

Hi Sandra...I posted the obit for Francis Wyle Johns in Reply #7 :) :).  Still trying to figure out why he is "Sir" Francis? 

Thanks for the information about his wife's full name.  Using that information, I found their marriage notice in the Globe and Mail (didn't come up using his name)…July 31 1944 page 8

A naval wedding at St Basil's church.   Helen Elizabeth Watson, only daughter of Mr and Mrs James B Watson of Kincardine, and Francis Johns RCNVR, son of Mrs Johns and the late James Johns.   The bride was attended by the bridegroom's sister, Mrs Emery Bebee.  George Clinton, Toronto, was best man.  Ushers were Mr Herbert Irvine, Mr John Hunt, and Mr Edgar Noffke. 

RK
 
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 23 May 20 16:59 BST (UK)
Sorry RK I must have missed that post, my apologises.  :-\

Sandra
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: telephonist on Saturday 23 May 20 23:31 BST (UK)
Thank you all for this information, has been a great help, now finished.
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER
Post by: Yasmeen Siddiqui on Monday 27 September 21 18:16 BST (UK)
Hello. I am new to this platform and genealogical research in general. Susan Johns was my Mom. I heard many stories about Maude--who lived with them. I'd love to know the direction of your inquiry. I too am digging around to uncover the origins of the knighting story I grew up hearing. Warmest, Yasmeen



Are you looking for the daughter of Francis W Johns?? 

If so, there is an obituary in the Toronto Star for a Susan Elizabeth Siddiqui (nee Johns)...in the Oct 15 2014 edition.  Gives her dates as June 30 1946 - Oct 11 2014.

It says that Susan was the wife of F.  Mother of 4 children...2 boys- initials T, 2 girls-initials Y and S.  (Won't post full names, because they are most likely still living).  3 grandchildren named.  Obit says that she is the daughter of Helen and Francis Johns of Roxborough Street, Toronto. 

RK

NOTE - I wonder if Susan's mother is still alive.  Found her father's birth record (see below).
Title: Re: Maude Cecelia SUMNER I'm here Great grand daughter
Post by: Yasmeen Siddiqui on Friday 26 November 21 23:47 GMT (UK)
Wow thanks so much for this info, I wonder if you could please PM me with the names of the children as they should still be living.
Kindest regards.

This is Yasmeen - daughter of Susan. Would love to know what you are researching. Best.