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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: wilcoxon on Monday 25 May 20 19:36 BST (UK)
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Even though William Peate must still be alive in 1871 I just can`t find any likely ones that fit.
I don`t know how old he was, or where he was from originally. It`s a long shot but can anyone find him. Thanks
Wrexham Advertiser.
10th April 1869
OVERTON ARCADE. W. PEATE, ORNAMENTAL CONFECTIONER AND BRIDE CAKE MANUFACTURER,
1870
our enterprising young tradesman, Mr Peate, confectioner, of Overton Arcade, has been honoured with the royal patronage of his majesty the King of Belgians.
28 January 1871
The following appear amongst the petitioners for liquidation by arrangement:—William Peate, Overton-arcade, Wrexham, confectioner;
His shop is to let by May 1871.
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I can't see him anywhere.
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I thought maybe he was born in the 1840s or perhaps very early 1850s since described as young in that piece.
And I was looking for a baker or similar trade.
The best was one who was a grocer, but he had children and none of them were born Wrexham
I thought also, that perhaps he was doing an apprenticeship in 1861, but didn't have any luck there either.
I did note that sometimes PEATE looks like PEAK
At least this will bring your query up the list again.
Added the Gazette of 18 July 1871 regarding payment of a dividend of 5s 5d per £ suggests he is still in Wrexham.
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Thanks for your interest , I have a few clues but that`s all they amount to. Without finding him in 1871 as a baker etc I`m stumped. It`s possible his father helped him out and gave him some land.
Robert Peate died in 1881 but no mention of William on the probate.
So really - all guesswork until a descendant turns up the the letter from the King of Belgium .......
Guessing .
William Peate catered for a lot of outside events for the better off residents including the Oswestry
Area.
1851 Selattyn
Class: HO107; Piece: 1993; Folio: 292; Page: 5
Name: William Thomas Peate Age: 6 Mo
Father's name: Robert Peate Mother's name: Elizabeth Peate
Where born: Pentre Clawdd, Shropshire, England
Still at home in 1861 with brother George who is aged 5
1871 On his own at a farm in Selattyn aged 20.
1871 brother George is at Grove park grammar school in Wrexham
William Thomas married Annie Parker in Grimsby, but I don`t have full details and went to New Zealand where he died in 1927.
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Hi, 1871 ref RG10 3817 123 42, believe he meets a lot of the criteria re your post. Aged 23, a lodger, with the occupation "Confectioner". Born according to census transcription Salertyne. Think this should be Selattyn. A good contender for his birth would be MQ 1848 Oswesty 18 147 mmn Evans. Selattyn comes under the Oswesty reg dist.
1851 ref HO107 1993 116 17
1861 RG 1875 56 8
Not as yet located him after 1871 but there are some emigrations after this date that I do not have access to but could be him.
John
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Interested in this, Wilcoxin as a 1st cousin of mine (much older than me) married a Peate from the same area - Gobowen in this case.
I'll see what I can find.
Gadget
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Think hes in the US by 1880
Looked on F/S for a William Peate born c 1847-1849 England
Occp Keeps Confectionary Store
William Peate Self Male 31 England
Elisabeth Peate Wife Female 23 New York, United States
William H Peate Son Male 1 New York, United States
George A Peate Son Male 0 New York, United States
Josephine Behringer Other Female 13 New York, United States
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Well done , the rest of
Peate family in 1871 are from the same area, just a shame no relationship is given.
I got the marriage details from a tree on Ancestry, but again I wasn't sure it was the same man.
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New York, Passenger and Crew Lists
Name: William Peate CONFECTIONER
Arrival Date: 28 Nov 1879
Birth Date: abt 1848 Age: 31 English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Scythia
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Maybe ?
California, Passenger and Crew Lists.
Wm Peate Grocer b England Birth Date: abt 1849
Age: 61 native country England
Destination Utica ? NY
Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1910
Port of Arrival: San Francisco, California
Ship Name: Mariposa
Port of Departure: Papeete, Tahiti
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1910 New York Oneida Utica Ward 12
William is still alive with Elizabeth and daughter Mabel.
1920 Forestport, Oneida, New York
Elizabeth is a widow and Mabel still there.
So that narrows Williams death down a bit.
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I found this but can`t see the original, it would be nice to have an obituary to see if it`s the right William Peate.
Name: William Peate Age at Death: 65
Birth Date: 1850 Death Date: 9 Apr 1915
Death Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Funeral Home: N. Gray & Co. Funeral Records
Funeral Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Obituary Included: YES
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/209642896/william-peate
Forest Hill Cemetery
Utica, Oneida County, New York, USA
If he died in San Francisco would he be likely to be buried in New York, wife Elizabeth and his son are also named on the stone. Age not exactly right but ....
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wilcoxon, re the 1871 census. I believe Williamis staying in the home of his uncle Andrew Peate c 1832. William's father William snr was born c1818 and both Andrew & William snr have parents Thomas Peate and Martha Arthur.
John
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Thanks. i`ll take a look later.
I`ve found William Peate`s death record, he was cremated and taken back to NY
seems like he was in a Care home in California.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-63J3-YGR?i=277&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJNL8-HZK
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wilcoxon, I may have made an error with the birth gro ref. Now believe his mother's maiden name was Lloyd. He was christened 11th Sept 1848 as William Lloyd Peate parents William & Elizabeth. Not to be confused with the William Peate christened 23rd April 1848 parents John and Maria.
John
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1875 new york state census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G5ML-36M?i=54&cc=1918735&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AVNJ3-MR1
John