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Title: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: HelenX on Sunday 07 June 20 15:49 BST (UK)
My request is for any info regarding inmates with the surname CADDICK who were in the Bedminster Union Workhouse c 1851 particularly Matilda CADDICK born 4th quarter of 1850 in Clifton

So far I am aware of Mary A (Mary Ann) CADDICK age 41 (Matilda's mother) and Mary Ann CADDICK age 8 (Matilda's sister)  I believe that Mary A CADDICK, an unmarried mother, (claiming to be a widow on her marriage certificate) married William BABB a widower, on 12 May 1856 at St Jude, Bristol.

Thanks
HelenX
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 07 June 20 17:11 BST (UK)
Bedminster was in Somerset until the 1890s.
The Bedminster Union Workhouse was located at Long Ashton.

Try https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGP9-ZL4 (Matilda)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGP9-84B (Mary A Caddick)

Matilda is an infant, age 0, at Bedminster Union Workhouse.
Mary A is 42, a Widow, also at Bedminster Union Workhouse.

Also: Mary Ann (age 8 )
Joseph (6)
Edwin (0)
Martha (17) - shoe maker
James (11)
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 June 20 17:21 BST (UK)
The GRO index has Matildas mothers maiden surname as Snow

CADDICK, MATILDA       mmn SNOW 
1850  Dec Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION  Volume 11  Page 292

and Mary Ann's

CADDICK, MARY  ANN     mmn SNOW 
1842  Dec Quarter in BEDMINSTER  Volume 11  Page 53
 
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 June 20 17:26 BST (UK)
Also

CADDICK, JAMES    mmn   SNOW 
1840  June Quarter in BEDMINSTER  Volume 11  Page 59

CADDICK, JOSEPH       mmn SNOW 
1845  March Quarter in BEDMINSTER  Volume 11  Page 74

CADDICK, EDWIN       mmn SNOW 
1850  Dec Quarter in THE CLIFTON UNION  Volume 11  Page 292

They are in Long Ashton workhouse in 1851
 
 
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 June 20 17:41 BST (UK)
Online trees say Mary Ann Snow married John Caddick in Bristol  8 Dec 1833
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 June 20 17:58 BST (UK)
8 Dec 1833 St Mary le Port, Bristol John Caddick married Mary Prigg.

Possible burial in Bedminster 22 April 1845 John Caddick 35 of Union Buildings

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTST-92P
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 June 20 18:02 BST (UK)
You really need one of the childrens birth certificates to confirm their fathers name. 

It would not be unusual for an online tree to be wrong
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 June 20 18:04 BST (UK)
possible previous marriage St Mary le Port 4 May 1829 for William Prigg & Mary Ann Snow.
The clergyman did not note marital status on either marriage.
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 June 20 18:08 BST (UK)
possible burial St Mary Redcliffe 13 Nov 1831 William Prigg aged 23

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTQN-484
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 07 June 20 18:09 BST (UK)
They look good  ;D.

There is another Caddick in the workhouse in 1851 -Martha age 17 occ Shoe maker bn Bedminster

On that census Mary Ann is listed as married age 41
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 June 20 18:19 BST (UK)
Martha baptised St Mary Red 7 June 1835 daughter of John, labourer, and Mary of Redcliffe

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTSM-VCY

 ;)
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 June 20 18:30 BST (UK)
possible baptism St Augustine the Less 12 May 1811 Mary Ann Snow dau of Jeremiah & Jane

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLSW-P9G


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Augustine_the_Less_Church,_Bristol
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: duport on Sunday 07 June 20 19:19 BST (UK)
What does the 1841 census say? It should show John CADDICK, 30 (rounded down from 31), Mary Ann C., 30, and James, 0. With John's profession.
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Sunday 07 June 20 19:34 BST (UK)
possible 1841 Stoks Court, Bedminster HO107/376/4 folio 44 pg 26
John Caddy? 25 scavenger
May 25
Martha 5
Thomas 9
James 12 months
Charles Williams 12 male servant
all born in county

possible baptism St John Bedminster 25 April 1830 for Thomas Prigg son of William, plasterer, and Mary of Redcliff Hill.

 :-\
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: duport on Sunday 07 June 20 19:52 BST (UK)
Yes, that looks like them in 1841.
She didn't have much luck, did she, Mary Ann? Twice widowed by the age of 36.
Was her marriage to Wm BABB any better? Did she still have all her children in 1861?
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 07 June 20 20:41 BST (UK)
possible 1841 Stoks Court, Bedminster HO107/376/4 folio 44 pg 26
John Caddy? 25 scavenger
May 25
Martha 5
Thomas 9
James 12 months
Charles Williams 12 male servant
all born in county

possible baptism St John Bedminster 25 April 1830 for Thomas Prigg son of William, plasterer, and Mary of Redcliff Hill.

 :-\

Redcliff Hill is at the end of Guinea Street - as seen on the current series of "A House Through Time" ;D
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: HelenX on Monday 08 June 20 00:41 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone for your responses, I can now see that whilst my blood relative was illegitimate (Matilda Caddick BABB) which means that I will be unable to trace back further on her paternal side) I was very surprised to learn that her mother had been widowed twice, in such a short space of time.

So to sum up, should anyone else be interested in any of those mentioned, Mary Ann SNOW bap 12 May 1811, St Augustine-the-Less, Bristol, was the daughter of Jeremiah & Jane SNOW

m1 Mary Ann SNOW & William PRIGG 4 May 1829, St Mary le Port, Bristol

Son of Mary Ann & William PRIGG

Thomas PRIGG bap 25 Apr 1830

William PRIGG bur 13 Nov 1831, St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol age 23


m2   MARY ANN PRIGG & John CADDICK 8th Dec 1833, St Mary Le Port, Bristol

Children of Mary Ann & John CADDICK
Martha (b c 1834)
James (b c 1840)
Mary Ann (b c 1843)
Joseph (b c 1845)

John CADDICK bur 22 Apr 1845 Bedminster, St John age 35


Matilda & Edwin (twins)  (b 4th quarter 1850) also had the surname CADDICK, although as they were not conceived at the time of the death of John CADDICK, they could not have been his children and were therefore illegitimate.

At the time of the 1851 census, Mary Ann (mother) Martha, James, Mary Ann (daughter), Joseph, Matilda and Edwin were all living in Bedminster Union Workhouse.  It is possible that the twins were born there, although the Birth registration Index for Matilda, shows the registration district as Clifton.  On workhouse records, all of the children have their mother’s maiden name recorded as SNOW.

m3  Mary Ann CADDICK & William BABB 12th May 1856, St Jude, Bristol

William BABB was a widower with children of his own.  Matilda changed her surname to a middle name and took the surname BABB.  She is recorded as Matilda Caddick BABB on her marriage certificate to William HARE on 21 Nov 1867 at Bristol Register Office.

Matilda & William HARE are my Great Grandparents.

I now have found all 16 of my great great grandparents with the exception of the real father of Matilda Caddick BABB, for whom I will only ever know the name of her step father.

Many thanks
HelenX
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: osprey on Monday 08 June 20 10:43 BST (UK)
The baptism of Martha Caddick was 7 June 1835, age given as 5 on the 1841 census which was taken 6 June 1835.

Some more info I found during previous searches
Burial at Bedminster St John 16 Sept 1832 for Jeremiah Snow aged 59 of Boot Lane.
Possible baptism in Wedmore, Somerset 22 Dec 1758 for Jeremiah Snow son of James & Mary

FamilySearch has Mary Ann's mother indexed as Jane, register shows Ann. Siblings for Mary Ann, children of Jeremiah, labourer, & Ann
Sts Philip & Jacob address Lawrence Hill
James bp 24 Dec 1809 aged 9 months
St Mary Redcliffe address Redcliffe
Eliza bp 25 Dec 1813
Christian Catharine bp 16 April 1815
Elizabeth bp 29 June 1817

Marriage of Jeremiah Snow & Ann Scott 4 July 1808 at Sts Philip & Jacob

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Philip_and_St_Jacob,_Bristol
Title: Re: Bedminster Union Workhouse look up request 1851 census
Post by: HelenX on Monday 08 June 20 22:51 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Osprey, I can see that there are two different Men called Jeremiah SNOW - mine from Bristol, and another, older Jeremiah Berry/Bury SNOW from Wedmore.

I have used the Wedmore parish records in the past for looking up other ancestors - one of the better organised sets of records available for free online.

Regards
HelenX