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I am looking for information on Lily Cruickshank born 5th Jan 1888 Kemnay Aberdeenshire.
Daughter of George Cruickshank (Stone Dresser) mother Mary Cruickshank (was Christie)
I have a group photo dated 1907 in which she is present, photo done by George who was a
photographer. I have looked on SP with no success but my computer is ancient & my eyesight the sharpest! Any assistance appreciated. David
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Can't view the details but there is a hint to a Lily who went to Canada and married a John Milloy.
That lady was born 5 Jan 1889 and died 13 Aug 1941. Buried Greenwood Cemetery Ontario.
As the birthday is correct she could be your girl.
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Thank you Milepede! Its a pontential candidate. I have a copy of the birth entry from S.P definitely 1888 5th Jan. I can find some records but with the name Lily Jane but her birth record was just 'Lily.
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There is a tree on Ancestry showing husband as John MacClean Mastean Malloy. Marriage was 17.10.1912 York, Ontario. No children shown
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS88-LVR
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Link to tree if you have Ancestry access
www.rootschat.com/links/01pkp/
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Thank you for the Ancestry link...it takes me to a subscription page! I do have a tree on that website but a subscription, found it expensive. Will see if I can find the tree without paying a subscription.
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I have looked at the passenger lists between 1908 + 5 years but cannot see a record that would match her leaving on a ship from UK. Its all interesting stuff! No joy with ancestry without paying a subscription..might end up doing that when me pension comes. Thank You. david
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I have found on FamilySearch in a Canadian Census 1911 a Lilian Cruickshank as lodger in Toronto Ontario Birthplace Scotland birth date 1888! Could this be our lady? Be good to find when she went to Canada Thanks for all your help ! David
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I was just going to suggest the 1911 census - possible for him, could not see her. Will look again - as date of entry could be recorded.
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F M P did not record her surname, which is why I could not see her, looks like arrived in 1911.
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The image is included in the Family Search entry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBQ-2XBX
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i have been contacted by a friend in Canada who has confirmed our investigations that Lily went to Canada. She arrived in 1911 and did marry there, had children, and died there. One of the children, a little boy, died in 1918 during the Spanish Flu pandemic. She has sent me copies of certs!
Thank you all for all your help, David
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Glad it all worked out :)
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Looking for more info on John Mcclean Malloy (Milloy) the husband to Lilly. He too went to Canada & they married in 1912 in Toronto. The docs I have state he was born on 4th Oct 1884 in Rothesay son of Andrew Malloy & Sarah Macclean but I have not found any birth records. He died in Canada on 4th August 1956 . Thankn You David
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Have you found him in any censuses that say year of immigration?
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Marriage of parents?
from Scotlandspeople
Andrew Milloy Sarah McLean 1884 644/9 163 Kelvin
Kelvin to Rothesay looks about 50 miles as the crow flies - there is a ferry to negotiate also.
Added:
There is an Andrew Milloy born in Rothesay in 1886.
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There is an Andrew (31) and Sarah Milloy (29) in 1891 Canadian census in Ontario with sons John (9) and Andrew (4).
If John is 9, then born 1881/1882, which is before that marriage.
Andrew as 4 would be born 1886/1887, which fits with birth.
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Did try and find census 1881, 1891 & 1911 but no joy.
Not sure John went to Canada, same year as Lily..?
Did they know each other before? Although Rothesay a long way from Aberdeen...or met on the ship?
Thanks for your help? David
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On 1901 census Andrew and Sarah Moloy with children John, Andrew, Thomas and James.
John's date of birth as 4th October 1882 on image (from Ancestry).
Andrew arrived in 1887, and Sarah and children in 1890 on that census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHPB-SW5
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Did try and find census 1881, 1891 & 1911 but no joy.
Not sure John went to Canada, same year as Lily..?
Did they know each other before? Although Rothesay a long way from Aberdeen...or met on the ship?
Thanks for your help? David
John went to Canada as a child.
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This is a possible for John, but McLean is a fairly common surname.
scotlandspeople
John MacLean 1882 644/9 1559 Kelvin
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John Milloy is in several trees on Ancestry.
Some of them having a marriage for him in Wentworth in 1905 to Ethel Newman, his parents being Andrew Milloy and Sarah McLean, and his birth in Glasgow.
There appears to be a child Randilla Isabel May Malloy, 1905 (19th November on birth information). There is offered a document in 1911 for Mother and daughter crossing the border for work, with her brother as named nearest friend/relative. She claims to have been in USA previously from 1909 to July 1911.
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On Randilla Ethel Milloy's Californian naturalisation petition (in the 1940's) she claims that she was born on April 4th, 1889, married on 6th June 1905 (so just 16) and that her husband, John, was born in Rosseau Bay, Scotland on October 15th, 1880.
Rosseau Bay is typed, so their interpretation as to spelling.
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Chempat you are a star! Many Thanks for your time & patience. Investigating my family tree is my main hobby. Difficult at times here at Gozo (Malta) as the internet service is not the best! Seems to get worse when the temps rise (30degs this morning) my other hobby is the ECW..even more difficult 1200 miles away!
I would also take this opportunity to thank all the other guys & gals who help when asked for assistance
David
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I have gone thru the documents I and on the marriage certificate the name is John Mcclean Malloy not Milloy. The date of marriage was 17th October 1912 Toronto. Parents names George Cruickshank
& Mary Christie and Andrew Malloy & Sarah McClean.
Johns birth place Rothesay, his age 28, making the date 1884.
I think there might be confusion over 'Milloy' and 'Malloy' as the Canadians called them,probably the accent. Thank You David