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Title: Opening of zoos
Post by: jillruss on Monday 15 June 20 13:27 BST (UK)
Forget the shops, I'm going to the zoo, zoo, zoo - you can come too, too too!  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: louisa maud on Monday 15 June 20 13:29 BST (UK)
I'll come to the zoo!, far more interesting than queueing up.

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 15 June 20 21:25 BST (UK)
I'll come to the zoo!, far more interesting than queueing up.

Louisa Maud

Count me in. Scottish zoos not open yet though. I've never seen the pandas.
Gorillas at a zoo were suffering lockdown blues according to staff. A young one used to interact with child visitors and he misses them.
Article "Zoos fear for their future" in "The Observer" 7th June.
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: sonofthom on Monday 15 June 20 21:53 BST (UK)
Maiden Stone,

Sadly Scottish zoos are in deep financial trouble and are facing an existential crisis. Blair Drummond has stated that it is at a financial cliff edge. Our ridiculously over cautious First Minister doesn't seem to be willing to countenance any relaxation despite the very low number of Scottish infections - bear in mind that if even only the drive through part of the safari park was open there would be no risk to anyone and at least there would be some income to help feed the animals.

The intransigence of the Scottish Government is a disgrace and we will all lose so much if the vets have to be called in.
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: trystan on Monday 15 June 20 22:06 BST (UK)
I'll have to remember that word for Scrabble.  :-*
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 16 June 20 00:07 BST (UK)
I'll have to remember that word for Scrabble.  :-*
You mean intransigence?
Add snollygoster to your list. I cast no nasturtiums.  :)
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: groom on Tuesday 16 June 20 00:55 BST (UK)

Add snollygoster to your list. :)

Love it - wonder how many times I can use that tomorrow.  :D :D
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: MaecW on Tuesday 16 June 20 05:25 BST (UK)

Sadly Scottish zoos are in deep financial trouble and are facing an existential crisis. Blair Drummond has stated that it is at a financial cliff edge.
Isn't this what "loss of profit" Insurance is for ?  Or did the management decide to take a risk which has now rebounded on them ?
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: sonofthom on Tuesday 16 June 20 07:48 BST (UK)
Given the comments coming from many organisations I presume that their insurance will refuse to pay out. The problem is that many policies exclude the effects of deliberate Government action. This has been the case in a couple of policies that I have had to check out and is probably the industry norm. There is also the question of capacity. The insurance market does not have unlimited funds and almost certainly could not cover the huge scale of losses that we are currently witnessing.
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: Rishile on Tuesday 16 June 20 08:37 BST (UK)
We have a wildlife park in our village.  The owner insisted a few years ago that he needed two huge wind turbines on his land so the revenue would pay for animal feed.  The village protested but he won.  The wind turbines are an eyesore and cause a lot of problems with the people who live near them.

Now the owner of the wildlife park is saying that because of the lockdown, he can't afford to feed the animals.  Something doesn't add up.

Rishile
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: Guy Etchells on Tuesday 16 June 20 08:51 BST (UK)
We have a wildlife park in our village.  The owner insisted a few years ago that he needed two huge wind turbines on his land so the revenue would pay for animal feed.  The village protested but he won.  The wind turbines are an eyesore and cause a lot of problems with the people who live near them.

Now the owner of the wildlife park is saying that because of the lockdown, he can't afford to feed the animals.  Something doesn't add up.

Rishile

Not surprising wind feed in tariffs have dropped and animal feed costs have gone up, life often has these ups and downs.
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: sonofthom on Tuesday 16 June 20 08:54 BST (UK)
Wind turbines save money on your power bills and to that extent free up cash that can then help you cover feed costs;other than the possibility of occasionally perhaps being able to sell surplus power (likely not to be much of an earner and also depends on whether your system is grid connected) they do not generate hard cash.

Quite simply no income equals no money to pay the bills. Closed businesses are living off previously generated surpluses, or more likely, borrowings. If the business is predominantly seasonal you need to earn a lot in the summer to build up surplus cash to see you through the barren winter months. This is why the tourism industry is so worried about the future.
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: groom on Tuesday 16 June 20 09:40 BST (UK)
It will be interesting how the animals react. I expect that some have welcomed 3 months of not being stared at, whereas others will have missed the interaction.
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 16 June 20 11:24 BST (UK)
My nearest wildlife park opens again this week, lots of open space and a new baby binterong to look at  :D  A much safer outing than shopping of any kind. 
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: LizzieL on Tuesday 16 June 20 16:42 BST (UK)
We've booked tickets to go to our local WWT centre tomorrow. First time out since lockdown started apart from three trips to get a takeaway from the pub at the other end of our village. Feeling a bit apprehensive. Will my car start? Can I still remember how to drive? Should I wear my face mask covering? Got a bag with hand sanitiser, alcohol wipes and gloves all ready, is there anything else I need? 
Title: Re: Opening of zoos
Post by: Viktoria on Tuesday 16 June 20 17:41 BST (UK)
Well I am looking forward to visiting our family Zoo.
One little monkey in particular,who of course  has his own zoo.
No ants ,gone, snails, dead bee, dead woodlouse,a feather and a bit of a  bird’s  eggshell.
Free entry .
Of course staff at zoos could not be furloughed ,so no income but the usual expenses.
But patience patience.
I will hold my breath until the time has passed from the idiotic happenings at weekend to when we might expect another peak
New Zealand, totally Free, now has two  cases, people who flew over to attend a funeral have tested positive.
What a pity.
Viktoria.