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Title: Thomas births
Post by: Quarryman on Thursday 18 June 20 12:06 BST (UK)
Trying to find birth dates of Robert Thomas, born c1815, and Ann Thomas, born c1817, in Llanbeblig, Caernarvon. Parents were Thomas Thomas and Ann Thomas, of Is Helen, Caernarvon.

Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 June 20 12:20 BST (UK)
On FreeREG;
St Peblig, Llanbeblig
ROBERT 22 Oct 1815, Parents THOMAS/ANNE

Cant find Ann c 1817 but there is a JANE 9 Nov 1817
Parents THOMAS/ANNE

They are Bapts not birth dates

Trish :)
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: Quarryman on Thursday 18 June 20 12:42 BST (UK)
Strange one this - I have tried for years to find Ann (one of 16 children!) I have her marriage certificate, which definitely states she is Ann, father Thomas Thomas, of Is Helen. There was never a Jane in the family as far as I can see. Robert and Ann had both left home by the 1841 census - Robert to become a Methodist preacher in South Wales (later Liverpool) and Ann married a farmer called Griffith Williams from The Lleyn Peninsula. After Griffith Williams died she married a master mariner from Caernarfon and went to live in the town with her two daughters by Griffith Williams.

Can't work this one out. If she was originally Jane why did she then take her mother's name - or is this a mistake by whoever filled out the baptism details in the parish register.
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 June 20 12:47 BST (UK)
It is possible it was a mistake :-\
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: Quarryman on Thursday 18 June 20 12:52 BST (UK)
Gone back to my Thomas family data base and found there was a JANE Thomas, of Is Helen, died December 1821 aged 10 weeks.
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: Quarryman on Thursday 18 June 20 15:16 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help, Trish
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 18 June 20 15:31 BST (UK)
Sorry I couldnt help more, good luck :)
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: Huwcyn on Thursday 18 June 20 17:35 BST (UK)
my gg-grandmother was born in the same area (Caeathro) in the 1820s. I've never found a baptism record. I suspect that if a baptism took place, it was at a nonconformist chapel whose records have been lost.
   The baptism of Jane in 1817 was at St Mary's church, in Caernarfon (Not the parish church of Llanbeblig) . Father referred to as a gardener.
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: Quarryman on Friday 03 July 20 13:44 BST (UK)
Hi Huwcyn,

Just got to your Thomas posting. Were the parents of Jane in 1817 Thomas Thomas and Ann?

Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Thomas births
Post by: Huwcyn on Friday 03 July 20 16:13 BST (UK)
I believe they were, yes. It was on 'Y Ffor' , which I had subscribed to for a month or two. I don't think I'd have posted unless I was 100% sure of what I'd read. I think St Mary's is the church which is actually built into the town walls.