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Title: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Musicman on Saturday 20 June 20 10:32 BST (UK)
I'm sure this is a problem most of us encounter!  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 20 June 20 10:50 BST (UK)
Our council take 'small' electrical items with the weekly waste collection,under the Weee scheme.
My son told me to take the hard drive out and smash it up with a hammer though.

We have just taken a previous one to the tip also,again after smashing up the hard drive.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: josey on Saturday 20 June 20 10:51 BST (UK)
Some charities take them, we format hard drive first [takes a while but removes all data].
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Guy Etchells on Saturday 20 June 20 12:29 BST (UK)
Some charities take them, we format hard drive first [takes a while but removes all data].

Sorry but all formatting the drive does is remove the "index" to the data most if not all the data can be recovered.
To remove the data it has to be overwritten and reformatting does not do that.

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: a-l on Saturday 20 June 20 12:30 BST (UK)
Turn it into a small fish tank  ;D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Ian Nelson on Saturday 20 June 20 12:34 BST (UK)
Screwdriver job, remove the hard drive, store or destroy if you have copied all the files you want then donate it to a charity clearly mentioning that the hard drive has been removed.   CEX stores sell refurb hard drives for £10 to £20 so it's still a bargain for some hard up soul.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Musicman on Saturday 20 June 20 12:36 BST (UK)
Turn it into a small fish tank  ;D

Which sort of "small fish" would you recommend? ::)
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: a-l on Saturday 20 June 20 12:39 BST (UK)
Turn it into a small fish tank  ;D

Which sort of "small fish" would you recommend? ::)


Guppies ?  ;D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Musicman on Saturday 20 June 20 12:43 BST (UK)

Guppies ?  ;D

Methinks tiddlers would be more apt!
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: a-l on Saturday 20 June 20 12:48 BST (UK)

Guppies ?  ;D

Methinks tiddlers would be more apt!

Guppies ?  ;D

Methinks tiddlers would be more apt!
   

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: carol8353 on Saturday 20 June 20 12:52 BST (UK)
Turn it into a small fish tank  ;D

Which sort of "small fish" would you recommend?


Goldfish are pretty small   ;D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 20 June 20 12:55 BST (UK)
As in Phish?  ;D

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Nick_Ips on Saturday 20 June 20 13:10 BST (UK)
My son told me to take the hard drive out and smash it up with a hammer though.

We have just taken a previous one to the tip also,again after smashing up the hard drive.

Smashing hard drives with a hammer is dangerous and should never be recommended.

Using the right software to wipe the disk should be sufficient (as Guy says, formatting alone doesn't work).

Removing the PCB by undoing the screws (not smashing it) and disposing of it separately makes it far more challenging to recover any data.

Opening the drive (by undoing the screws) will lead to contamination of the disk(s) sufficient to make it an expensive task (uneconomic) to recover any data.

Or leave the drive in the back of a cupboard or a drawer until it is so old the data has no value.

The hammer technique might sound like fun, but the other methods don't risk the loss of sight in someone's eye, broken bones, or the release of potentially damaging chemicals into the environment.  :o
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 20 June 20 13:16 BST (UK)
MM - what did you do with your last one?

I have treated all my previous ones in the same way - remove the hard drive and either taken them to a recycling centre or donated them to a good cause.

I am making a sculpture out of the hard drives and including some old ram strips as well  ;D

PS - glad to see you back  :)

Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: josey on Saturday 20 June 20 13:16 BST (UK)
Sorry but all formatting the drive does is remove the "index" to the data most if not all the data can be recovered.
To remove the data it has to be overwritten and reformatting does not do that.
Totally agree, Guy, I used the wrong word; I meant wipe it; Mr Josey used a proprietary software. 
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Skoosh on Saturday 20 June 20 13:23 BST (UK)
https://www.pureplanetrecycling.co.uk/5-ways-not-to-destroy-your-hard-drive/

Skoosh.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 20 June 20 13:28 BST (UK)
Depending where you are, there may be a local version of this;
  https://www.scrapstore.co.uk/project-reboot
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 20 June 20 13:41 BST (UK)
https://www.wikihow.com/Destroy-a-Hard-Drive

I quite like this comment BTL:

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blow torch, hammer and a couple of bullet holes. Even after that I'd bury it.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: farmeroman on Saturday 20 June 20 13:44 BST (UK)
I always drill a hole straight through the drive.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: bradburyd on Saturday 20 June 20 16:38 BST (UK)
I always drill a hole straight through the drive.
An alternative is to buy a hard drive caddy and use the old disc as additional external storage connected via usb cable.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: farmeroman on Saturday 20 June 20 17:20 BST (UK)
I always drill a hole straight through the drive.
An alternative is to buy a hard drive caddy and use the old disc as additional external storage connected via usb cable.

Yes it is an option, although more often than not by the time a PC is due for retirement the drive is an old generation, low capacity or large form factor model. These days I don't consider anything less than 1TB and/or small form factor worth keeping.

There's also the issue of old "spinning rust" drives probably nearing end of life. Using them for backup purposes is one thing, but I'd be vary wary of using them as additional storage, which would itself need to be backed up regularly, something that I know from experience (from a support point of view) isn't something that the average user does.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Musicman on Tuesday 23 June 20 08:32 BST (UK)
MM - what did you do with your last one?


Ashamed to admit it - but, they're "up in Annie's room"!  :D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: UK4753 on Tuesday 23 June 20 17:21 BST (UK)
The retailer where I purchased my last PC offers a service to take in old electronic equipment for destruction.  Very convenient.

 :)
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: tomkin on Tuesday 23 June 20 17:55 BST (UK)

                  I always take the hard drive out whilst wearing surgical gloves so as not to

          scratch the very sensitive data surface.   I then take it outside wearing safety glasses

         and a face mask. I position the drive unit on top of a stone block that I have in the garden.

           I change the surgical gloves for a pair of heavy duty welding gloves.  I then pound the

           hell outa the drive with a 4 lb lump hammer screaming at the top of my voice, " I told

             yer what I would do if you let me down again. "    Not only does it destroy the drive,

         but it certainly releases a lot of pent up emotion  that these new fangled machines cause.

                             :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

           
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Musicman on Tuesday 23 June 20 21:47 BST (UK)
Tomkin . . . thanks for the advice, but . . . . haven't got any of that gear - though I have got pack of 'Face Masks' as I will be going on a train journey soon (hopefully) and you now have wear one for the journey there and back - I've got to have a medical procedure! :o   Plus, I wouldn't have the strength these days to lift that hammer you mentioned!   :D

But, thanks for the info!  ;D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: tomkin on Wednesday 24 June 20 17:19 BST (UK)

                    " though I have got pack of 'Face Masks' as I will be going on a train journey soon (hopefully) and you now have wear one for the journey "

                       Are you thinking of chucking the PC off the train?   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: Musicman on Thursday 25 June 20 20:51 BST (UK)

                       Are you thinking of chucking the PC off the train?   ;D ;D ;D ;D

No way!  Am hoping that my 'medical procedure' (cataracts) might happen sooner rather later - such ops were halted in March . . . hopefully, will start up again soon.  And it'll be done in Norwich - hence the train journey!   :)
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: AngusMcCoatup on Thursday 25 June 20 21:49 BST (UK)
The retailer where I purchased my last PC offers a service to take in old electronic equipment for destruction.  Very convenient.

 :)

I'd still make sure there was no personal data readable on any drive before handing it over for recycling. Or remove any drive entirely.
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: tomkin on Sunday 28 June 20 13:04 BST (UK)

              " Am hoping that my 'medical procedure' (cataracts) might happen sooner rather later"

                 Good luck mate, hope everything is successful.


                  " I'd still make sure there was no personal data readable on any drive before handing it over for recycling. Or remove any drive entirely."

                Excellent advice from Angus :D
Title: Re: Disposing of old PC
Post by: kimhulme on Friday 10 July 20 22:01 BST (UK)
A relation of mine purchased a reconditioned/updated computer from a 'reputable' shop. Worked OK for years... was very surprised to find  porno pics on it. Couldn't understand where they'd come from !