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Title: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: dutch missmarple on Saturday 27 June 20 15:05 BST (UK)
Hi all,

looking for George Willson
Bapt. 1829 Bearsted Kent.
son of Thomas and Charlotte

occupation census 1871 (Plymouth, Devon): Gunner Royal Art.

died before 12 August 1876. Daughter Rhoda Sarah got married that day, father mentioned as being George Wilson, soldier, deceased.

Census 1861 shows wife Ellen and children living in Higham Kent, but no George.
So where was he at that time ?

What I'm looking for....
where was he census 1841, 1851 and 1861 ?
where was he in 1863 ? Daughter Charlotte was born in about 1863 in Madras West Indies
The other children where all born in England

When and where did he die ? obviously between 1871 and 1876. couldn't find him on Free BMD

Also important to me: did Thomas and Charlotte have any more children ?

thank you !

Dutch Missmarple

Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 June 20 15:32 BST (UK)
Hi Miss Marple -- there is an Army Record for a George Wilson, who was born in Kent and who enlisted in 1847 and was discharged in 1870.

During this time he served in the East Indies for, I think, 14 yrs and 5 mths. This MAY be your George. His Army record is on Find My Past if you have access.

It would explain his absence from some census records.
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: dutch missmarple on Saturday 27 June 20 15:50 BST (UK)
Hi Pennines,

that could be him !
unfortunately I don't have a subsription to Find My past  :-[

But, if he was in the East Indies for that period of time, was he allowed to go home now and then?
I mean, he did father 3 children who were born in England. the youngest one was born in Madras, so his wife would have been with him.
Not sure if the oldest daughter Rhoda Sarah was his though. She was born in 1856 and they didn't get married until 1858. Besides, Rhoda's father is stated as being Thomas (?????). Maybe George's brother....., but that's another mystery all together...

DMM
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Ian Nelson on Saturday 27 June 20 16:28 BST (UK)
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=George&q.surname=Wilson&q.birthLikePlace=Maidstone%2C%20Kent&q.birthLikeDate.from=1826&q.birthLikeDate.to=1830&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on&count=20&offset=0
click on that link for info on the two George Wilsons of Maidstone, Kent with different fathers.  It's free but you may have to Register and sign in
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 June 20 16:34 BST (UK)
I can't see his periods of leave listed unfortunately. However he has given an address on discharge as 7, Albion Place, Dover and his occupation as Sail Maker if that helps.

His age on entry to the Army in 1847 is 18 (that's what it looks like!) HOWEVER - the record shows him to be born near the parish of Dover - so it may not be the correct George.
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Ian Nelson on Saturday 27 June 20 16:40 BST (UK)
I see the Dover 'George' on Family Search's page ... the link I posted above.  There are a few other George Wilsons but you should be able to close in on the right one with parents details, cheers, Ian
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 June 20 17:02 BST (UK)
You also asked about other children born to Thomas and Charlotte -- I can't immediately see any in Kent.

In 1841 there is a 12 year old George Wilson (census was taken in June that year) -- living with a Wayman family. The Head of the house is John Wayman a Mariner, aged 55 (age will be rounded down to nearest 5 years for those over 15 on the 1841 census).

Address - Chapel Place, Dover. I'm just wondering if George's parents died.

Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 June 20 17:25 BST (UK)
A Thomas Wilson had married a Charlotte Luckhurst (that's what it looks like!) at Little Chart, St Mary on 9 Sept 1827.

I am not familiar with Kent - so I am not sure if this is a feasible location for these 2 to be George's parents.
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 27 June 20 21:53 BST (UK)
I am really struggling to find the parents of George Wilson -- ie Thomas and Charlotte - in 1841.

The soldier's record on Find My Past isn't conclusive, except he is the correct age, has the right name and a location of Kent. The George living with the family in Dover in 1841, might also be the soldier - but also might be the same George!

Can anyone else find Thomas and Charlotte Wilson in 1841 please, preferably with a son George.
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Ian Nelson on Sunday 28 June 20 00:43 BST (UK)
I have also spent years trying to trace a George Wilson connected with my ancestors but it's such a common name and the records don't show enough information to separate one from the other.  But, lookee here,
Name:   
George Wilson
Event Type:   
Death
Registration Quarter:   
Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year:   
1880
Registration District:   
Eastry
County:   
Kent
Event Place:   
Eastry, Kent, England
Age:   
52
Birth Year (Estimated):   
1828
or register for free at familysearch and follow the link and look at the bottom of the page and select page 4 and you'll find the deaths of many Georges who were born in Kent around 1828.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=George&q.surname=Wilson&q.birthLikePlace=Maidstone%2C%20Kent&q.birthLikeDate.from=1826&q.birthLikeDate.to=1830&count=20&offset=60&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on
Title: Re: George Willson (Wilson) census lookup please 1841 to 1861
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 28 June 20 11:33 BST (UK)
Good find Ian -- but according to the initial post by Dutch Miss Marple -- George wilson was shown as  'Soldier, deceased' on his daughter's marriage certificate in 1876.

If the George Wilson whose Army papers were on Find My Past is the correct one -- he was discharged from the Army in 1870 as unfit for further serveice (from memory he had varicose veins).

Unfortunately there is no actual evidence that it's the same George -- except he WAS a soldier, he was from Kent and he was the correct age. There is no indication of marital status or next of kin.

Hence we are presumably looking for a George Wilson who died between 1871 (when he is in Plymouth, Devon - with his wife and children) -- still a serving soldier!

The other George Wilson of roughly the same age -- may be shown on the 1871 as a Chelsea Pensioner and unmarried. He is an inmate in Dover Union Workhouse.

I think it is this latter George Wilson whose Army papers are on Find My Past.

The actual George's death should be amongst Army deaths I think - providing he was still serving.

Back to the drawing board!!