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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: nibbs on Saturday 04 July 20 12:45 BST (UK)
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Hi my 4 x great grandfather was Patrick Morris he died 27 Dec 1902 in a workhouse in Chester and was buried 31 Dec in a paupers grave could someone look to see they can find out which cemetery it is please
Thank wendy
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Where have you looked already yourself - to save any duplication of effort? And where did you get the information about a pauper's grave?
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I'm on ancestry but couldn't find anything on there really don't know where to look
Wendy
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Where does your information about his date and place of burial come from. Where was he living in 1901
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Deceasedonline has a burial record for a Patrick Morris, buried 31 December 1902 in Cheshire.
Could this be your man? You will need to buy credits to get more details.
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1901 census he is in a workhouse in Chester
Wendy
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Yes Nanny Jan that's him thank you for looking
Wendy
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It is likely he was in the Chester Union Workhouse on Hoole Lane. If you go to Google Streetview and the junction of Hoole Lane and Housesteads Drive you can see the former Chapel. The Workhouse graveyard was in the grassed area. Being paupers, nobody had a gravestone. In recognition of this, a commemorative gravestone was laid there. If you email me, I can send you a picture and an article about it. On Streetview you will see the curved brick wall and you can just make out the gravestone lain flat behind it. If he was in a different Workhouse, I am afraid I don't have any detail.
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The 1901 census shows he was in the Hoole Workhouse.
You can see the graveyard on this map https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.19722&lon=-2.86915&layers=168&right=BingHyb
The workhouse chapel and graveyard in 2014
See https://chesterwalls.info/hoolegallery3.html
Stan
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Stanmapstone,
I had not seen that ChesterWalls.info site before. Thank you - really interesting and very useful.
Simon
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I wonder if he was the same Patrick Morris (of Steven Street) who was found helplessly drunk in The Groves on Saturday at 11am - Cheshire Observer 08 December 1900
He was locked up for his own safety and fined 5s and costs
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" From 1880 – 1900 the deaths of 1,350 people were recorded in the burial register. . By 1900 the burial ground was full" according to http://www.hoolehistorysoc.btck.co.uk/HooleSocialWelfare/ChesterUnionWorkhouse
Stan
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Ah, so the deceasedonline entry may be the only place to find a 1902 burial site. Nibbs may be able to buy a few credits.
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Thank you so much for your help
Wendy
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There's the St Werburgh catholic church entry, but why would it be on deceased online?
Is it a burial, or just a note of the death/burial of a parishioner? Image may be on findmypast?
Patritius Morris
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3HQ-ZQ7
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Age 80 on that catholic record.
Died on 27 Dec and registered in the next quarter
March 1903 Chester 8a 25
Morris, Patrick
age 81
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Oh that looks good jonw65. All dates correct. good find.
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The burial was in Overleigh Old Cemetery G1021
5 people interred over a 5-6 week period. His last known address being "workhouse"
http://databases.cheshirearchives.org.uk/cms/LacOverleighCemetery/home.aspx
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Is it a burial, or just a note of the death/burial of a parishioner?
Looks like it was the latter!
Well found Pauline.
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Wow thank you so much his wife is buried at overleigh cemetery so I will look into that first thank you Pauline j and jonw65 and everyone else for you help
Wendy
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Just to add that the Chester Union Workhouse in Hoole became Chester City Hospital in 1948. This was in use until the 1990s. These sites might be of interest:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Chester/
http://www.hoolehistorysoc.btck.co.uk/HooleSocialWelfare/ChesterUnionWorkhouse
Jo