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Title: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Kenneal67 on Saturday 04 July 20 16:08 BST (UK)
I am looking for anyone who may have details of a marriage between a William Gibbons and a Marianne probably prior to 1830. I have 4 children born to William Gibbons moth Marianne in Kemble but cant find a marriage record on FindMyPast. Marianne died 1838.
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 04 July 20 16:54 BST (UK)
No death as Marianne in 1838.  There is an Anna Maria
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Kenneal67 on Saturday 04 July 20 16:59 BST (UK)
Carole I have this

First name(s)
Marianne
Last name
Gibbons
Age
33
Birth year
1805
Burial year
1838
Burial date
29 Sep 1838
Place
Kemble
Residence
Kemble
County
Wiltshire
Country
England
Record type
Bishop's Transcripts
Record set
Wiltshire Burials Index 1538-1990
Category
Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory
Parish Burials
Collections from
England, Great Britain
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 04 July 20 17:27 BST (UK)
Nothing on freebmd in Sept qtr 1838.  I had looked for the death to get her age.  There is an infant death in the same qtr - John Gibbons - born & died Sept qtr 1838 Cirencester

On the off chance he was Marianne’s son & she died in childbirth - mmn was Harland on John’s birth reg

No other Gibbons/Harland births found up to 1852
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Kenneal67 on Saturday 04 July 20 17:30 BST (UK)
Nothing on freebmd in Sept qtr 1838.  I had looked for the death to get her age.  There is an infant death in the same qtr - John Gibbons - born & died Sept qtr 1838 Cirencester

On the off chance he was Marianne’s son & she died in childbirth - mmn was Harland on John’s birth reg

Thanks Carole that's a possible good clue...…… death in childbirth maybe
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 04 July 20 17:31 BST (UK)
That’s what I wondered - no other Gibbons/Harland births up to 1852
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Kenneal67 on Saturday 04 July 20 17:34 BST (UK)
First name(s)
William
Last name
Gibbons
Marriage year
1828
Marriage date
09 Oct 1828
Marriage place
Bodenham
Spouse's first name(s)
Caroline
Spouse's last name
Hartland
County
Herefordshire
Country
England
Record set
Herefordshire Marriages
Category
Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory
Parish Marriages
Collections from
England, Great Britain

Doesn't fit but I need to dig more
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 05 July 20 10:19 BST (UK)
Kemble and Ewen in the County of Wilts - are on Ancestry - under Gloucestershire - as at some point, later on Kemble, is in Gloucestershire.

Burial at Kemble - 29 September 1838 - Marianne GIBBONS aged 33 abode Kemble

two John GIBBONS - deaths

John GIBBONS (aged 14 months) - abode, Kemble - January 14th 1838 -

and four burials down the page

John GIBBONS (aged 4 days) - September 22nd (1838) - abode: Kemble

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? Marianne's maiden name: HARLAND,  there are a couple of HAVILAND, burials at Kemble

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a Maria HAVILAND, married at Kemble - 12 day October 1825 - to Richard CARTER - but can't find any children (or burial of Richard)



and also a Jonathan HAYWARD, married an Elizabeth HAVILAND - by Licence - (next entry) - 6 February 1826

? - Looking for family names.

James & Joseph GIBBONS - were both baptised together - 28 Mary 1830 - at Kemble.  As William's occupation was a Slater - at this time, he would move from area to area.

Ann Gibbons - born 12 August 1833, baptised, 8 September 1833 - abode: Kemble Wick, William again was a Slater.

Maria GIBBONS - baptised 27 March 1836, at Kemble, William's occupation: Mason



Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 05 July 20 11:25 BST (UK)
Baptisms, All Saints, Kemble;
JAMES/JOSEPH 28 Mar 1830
ANNE 08 Sep 1833
MARIA 14 Dec 1834 cant find burial
MARIA 27 Mar 1836
JOHN 20 Nov 1836 buried 14 Jan 1838 age 14 mths
(FreeREG)

The other 2 Burials mentioned by Capetown are there also 1838..


1841 Census there is a DINAH Haviland living in Kemble, buried there 1845 age 71..

Anc has a MARY ANN Haviland christened 2 Feb 1805, Oaksey, Wilts to JOSIAH/DINAH

Maybe a outside chance its Marianne?

Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 05 July 20 11:32 BST (UK)
Maybe not as she may have married William LOCK 19 Aug 1826 Oaksey
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 05 July 20 13:09 BST (UK)
Had a look at Gloucestershirebmd

GIBBONS John - Mother's Former Name: HAVILAND, 1838, District: Cirencester, Office: Cirencester, Cirencester.


Going back to the earlier marriage of Maria HAVILAND to Richard CARTER in 1826

There are a couple of CARTER - Female - 1839 and 1842 Cirencester, mother's maiden name: HAVILAND  - so the marriage may not be of any use!  - unless William GIBBONS didn't marry...

1861 Census, South Cerney

Richard CARTER - 59 - Shepherd - born South Cerney
Maria - 54  - born Kemble, Wilts
Eliza - 27 - born South Cerney
George - son -11 - born South Cerney

Seems there are two Maria HAVILAND's born within a year or two of each other!!!

1805:  Mary Ann d of Josiah and Dinah HAVILAND -  Feb 3?


Re: Dinah HAVILAND - mentioned previously.  There seems to be a connection to Oaksey - - baptism 16 July 1775 - Oaksey is only about 4 miles plus from Kemble.


On the 1841 Census, Dinah is living at Kemble Wick - when Ann GIBBONS was christened 12 August 1833, residence was: Kemble Wick.

Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 05 July 20 13:46 BST (UK)
Going back to the 1841 Census, at Kemble Wick

Dinah HAVILAND - 76 - not born in County
Richard BIGS - 30 Ag - not born in County
Emma BIGS - 15 - not born in County


Marriage at Kemble : 1 October 1839

Richard BIGGS - full age - Bachelor, labourer, father: William BIGGS, labourer
Emma HAVILAND - minor, Spinster, (Bastard).

Earlier on did see this on a Public Members Tree on Ancestry
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 05 July 20 13:49 BST (UK)
Good work :)
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 05 July 20 13:50 BST (UK)
The tree on Ancestry - has HAVELAND - and says she was buried at Kemble 24 March 1841 aged 18.


Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 05 July 20 13:53 BST (UK)
Eliza Heinlead Bapt 4 Jul 1803 Kemble, Mother DIANA (Anc)

From memory her Burial is on FreeREG 1829 age 26 as Haviland
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 05 July 20 14:05 BST (UK)
On Page 42 of Kemble baptisms

Maria(e) D : of Dinah HAVILAND - Nov 16 1806
Title: Re: Marriage William Gibbons
Post by: Capetown on Sunday 05 July 20 19:49 BST (UK)
Josiah HAVILAND married Dinah BROWN - 29 May 1797 at Oaksey, Wiltshire


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Some of the baptisms at Kemble, mention the above couple - others just mention Dinah.

There is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry :

for a baptism at Oakley - 2 April 1815,

Jane daughter of Josiah & Dinah HAVILAND - (Josiah was a labourer)....

8 June 1817 at Oakley

Anne daughter of Josiah and Dina HAVILAND -

Seems : Josiah had children baptised at Kemble and Oakley....