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Title: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: MichelleK12345 on Tuesday 14 July 20 16:42 BST (UK)
Hi. I’m new here. I am looking for a George Walker born roughly 1851 in the Uk somewhere. He married a Mary Ann Pearton in Paddington 9th December 1872. I can find no record for brothers or sisters and the father is listed and Edward Walker.
Pretty new to this so any help appreciated 😊

Thank you.
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 15 July 20 07:36 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat Michelle  :D

You seem to know the marriage details.  Can you tell me what occupation is given for George and his father Edward?  Is there an age for George or just of full age/over 21?

What age was Mary and what is her father's name and occupation?

Any address shown at the time they married?  Who were the witnesses?

This information could assist in locating the couple pre marriage on the 1871 census and will hopefully give you more details to work with.

One son

WALKER, GEORGIE       PEARTON 
GRO Reference: 1872  D Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 14
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 15 July 20 10:10 BST (UK)
09/12/1872 St Peters Church  Paddington
George Walker aged 21 Boatman of 6 Braden St Amberley Road father Edward Walker boatman
to
Mary Ann Pearton aged 20 same address father Joseph Pearton boatman

LM
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 15 July 20 10:48 BST (UK)
I think this is going to be a tough nut to crack.  I am struggling to find anything for either George or Mary re census and birth records.

The occupation of boatman suggests a family that moved around the country therefore making it harder to pin them down.  They may well have missed appearing on census records because of that.
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 15 July 20 11:32 BST (UK)
I agree GG, I did find a son born, Georgie in 1872, not found any of them after that, but as you mentioned, boat people can be up and down the Grand union  canal,  think nearest to Paddington,  my family   way back were boat people, up and down the canal but mostly came home to Paddington to have the children baptised, 14 of them, just imagine all of those on a canal boat, plus goods , at the moment we have no idea where George and Mary were born

LM
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 15 July 20 11:49 BST (UK)
There is an 1898 marriage at St Mary’s  Paddington of Caroline Walker, 24, father George Walker a boatman, deceased.

What about this birth?
   WALKER, CAROLINE       REARTEN 
GRO Reference: 1875  J Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 42  Occasional Copy: A
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 15 July 20 11:57 BST (UK)
03/04/1898St Marys Paddington Green
William Morris 27 of Dudley ( looks like Close) father William, lab dec
to
Caroline Walker  24 of 45 North Wharf Road father dec George Walker boatman
witnesses Samuel Richardson and Mary Barton

LM
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 15 July 20 12:14 BST (UK)
03/04/1898 St Marys Paddington Green
William Morris 27 of Dudley looks like Close father William, lab dec
to
Caroline Walker  of 45 North Wharf Road father dec boatman
witnesses Samuel Richardson and Mary Barton

LM

PS  My father's family were baptised St Mary Paddington Green, he told me is was locally called " the dustman's church"
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 15 July 20 12:17 BST (UK)
So far 3 baptisms for Morris family

All at St Mary's Paddington Green

13/01/1908 George Henry Morris
birth 18/12/1898

23/102/1910 Edward Alfred

James
07/06/1903
born 18/05/1903

Parents to above William and Caroline Morris of 28 North Wharf Road, occ labourer

LM

Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 15 July 20 12:23 BST (UK)
Just tried 45 North Wharf Road in the 1891 and 1901 census but no Walker family living there then.
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: louisa maud on Wednesday 15 July 20 15:47 BST (UK)
I did find a Joseph Pearton with Sarah MMN King living Hillingdon, not so far from the canal basin I don't think but they didn't have a child  Mary Ann and Joseph wasn't a boatman , 2 baptisms 1851 for Charlotte Jane and 1855 for Thomas William,  So I am a little stuck with this family

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: MichelleK12345 on Monday 10 August 20 18:25 BST (UK)
Thanks for you help and reply’s.

Caroline is George and Mary’s Daughter and yes she married a Morris in Paddington, also boat people.

George is my great grandfather married to Annie Grantham another Boat Family.

But I cannot find any other trace so if anyone else has any ideas I would appreciate it 😊

Kindest regards, Michelle.
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: bbart on Tuesday 11 August 20 05:48 BST (UK)
Hello and welcome, Michelle!

From the Islington Gazette 17 November 1892:

There is mention of a 40 yr old George Walker, boatman, of Medina-street, Kensal-road, Paddington being drunk and disorderly at Caledonian-road. 

Might be worth looking for that street in the 1891 census? 
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: bbart on Tuesday 11 August 20 06:36 BST (UK)
One more from 04 April 1896 - West London Observer - London, London, England

A boatman, George Walker, was involved in a scuffle when the barge, Sarah, that he rented was being repossessed.  The barge had been the property of his father, and George was renting it from the widow, but hadn't kept up payments.

So IF this is your George, this would narrow his death date down from April 1896 to Caroline's wedding date.
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: Girl Guide on Tuesday 11 August 20 07:39 BST (UK)
In 1891 George Walker and wife Sarah living at Modena Street, Paddington.  George is a boatman.

Registration district   Paddington
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   10
Folio   90
Page   1
Title: Re: Canal Boatman Ancestors Walker and Pearton
Post by: Rosedrum on Sunday 22 January 23 22:31 GMT (UK)
Hi I also have this line in my family I believe George’s brother is my great grandfather Edward Walker whose father was an Edward but I have no mother name for George and Edward, I was told that the family were boat people and their children could have been baptised wherever they happened to have been moored. My Edward does have his father with him on the 1891 census and the fathers place of birth is given as Hertford, but like you now hitting a brick wall