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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Cathy53 on Friday 17 July 20 18:54 BST (UK)
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Hi I am hoping the file has attached.
This is a birth certificate for John Glennie (illegitimate birth) but the father requested his name to be included. Scotlandspeople have noted this certificate as Glennie, John Shephit 186/ 26.
On the 1861 census he is listed as John Shepherd living with his grandparents. To me the father's signature looks like it ends with a t (column 6) but I may be wrong. Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.
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It actually looks like Shephrt!
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It does look like Shephrt -
Then again looking at the other columns ....could it be Shephrton ??
Looby :)
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I see Shephrt
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Thanks for your replies. I also see Shephrt but I have done a lot of fuzzy searches on Scotlandspeople and am not coming up with anything near it! On the 1861 census Scotlandspeople it is definitely written as Shepherd so I think I will have to go with that.
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Maybe it was just the way the surname was pronounced to the Registrar which caused the strange spelling.
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I think it actually says John Shepherd, which would also explain the 1861 census.
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My 2 penn'th:
I think it looks as though the registrar has written Shephrt.
His "r" is very distinctive, and his "d" (in other places on the page) looks more like "el" - the last letter of the name definitely looks like a "t".
The father's signature at first glance also looks like Shephrt, but perhaps it is simply not very precise and is actually Shephert or Shephart?
Edit: I originally ruled out Shephet, but now I've seen that the name does indeed exist.
Unlikely, though, as I would imagine there must have been an "r" towards the end of the name, if the registrar wrote Shephrt (going on what he heard).
Best regards,
Karen
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I have now found John's death certificate 168/1 121
A different spelling for John's father Shephot!
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How interesting!! I wonder if that was because his actually birth name had been recorded incorrectly and the birth and death certificates needed to match, or clarify any name difference.
Thank you for the update Cathy.
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Cathy I am noticing Adamson in your surname interests. Do you have the Adamson - Kay attachment to the Burnt Island / Larbert, Stirling shire Christie family ?
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When John married Maggie Mitchell in 1884 his father's name shows as Shepherd and the same when he remarried in 1923
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Hi Mona Lisa sorry I don’t think so, my Adamson’s were in Pittenween, Fife and my Christie originated in Ireland and settled in Midlothian.
Hi Crumblie I haven’t as yet got John’s marriage certs but did do a quick search, I found his second one but thank you for info ref date for his first as I hadn’t located that one yet.
It just seems strange that on his death cert it mentions previously known as Shephot as he appears to have used Shepherd throughout his life and for his 2nd wife to mention it to the registrar who inserts it on certificate.
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Might it be to clear any confusion of his parents being Shephot and Rennie?
Colin