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Hello I have hit a brick wall. All I have is a typed copy of a Certificate of Birth and Baptism, dated 27th May 1844, was baptised Mary born the 26th instant of the legitimate marriage of Donald McDonald and Marcella No’lin the1st. Concession of Kenyon.
Sponsors: Angus Williams and Mrs. Catherine. Signed J. McDonald, Priest. Place of Baptism St Finnan’s Cathedral, Alexandria, Ontario.
I don’t know where to start! My Great +2 Grandmother who’s Baptism it was, married to a Henry Fletcher and their daughter Emily Mary was born in Toronto and moved to London with her parents and married Henry E Allar a Huguenot descendant.
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When did Emily move to London with her parents?
This seems to be her marriage record
Marriages Jun 1898
Allar Henry Fulham 1a 548
Fletcher Emily Mary Fulham 1a 548
I'm not clear as to what you wish to find out.
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Emily is with her parents and sister Henrietta in the UK 1881 census. This is her birth record.
Emily Mary Fletcher
Birth 6 May 1875 at York, Ontario, Canada
Father - Henry Kossuth Fletcher
Mother - Mary Macdonald
Are you are looking to go back beyond Mary No'lin? and Donald McDonald?
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Thanks for replying. Yes I am looking to go back to Marcella Nolin and Donald McDonald but I don’t know where I should be looking.
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Just to get our bearings, 1st Concession of Kenyon appears to refer to Kenyon Concession Rd 1. There are also Roads no 5, 4, 8 with what appear to be suburbs of Alexandria, South Glengarry, Nth Glengarry etc.
I have been looking at the 1851 Canada census on ancestry.com and am overwhelmed with all the McDonalds living in Kenyon alone but haven't come across a Marcella McDonald so can't tie them in to your Mary McDonald baptised 1844.
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Schedule of marriages Toronto Canada
11 October 1872
Henry Fletcher age 23 waiter born England parents John & Elizabeth Fletcher. (C of E)
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Mary McDonnell 24 born Glengarry Ontario daughter of Donald & Merciline McDonnell (R.C.)
Witness are George McDonald and Joseph Fletcher
The bride's name is clearly McDonnell and so are her parents when she married.
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Is this your family?
Census 1901 at 105 Southgate Rd Islngton (Ancestry)
ALLAR Henry 42y silver stick mounter b. Shoreditch London
ALLAR Emily 45y wife b. Toronto Canada
ALLAR Henry 20y son silver stick mounter b. Shoreditch London
ALLAR Jane 15y dau b. Shoreditch London
ALLAR Eva 2y dau b. Hackney London
FLETCHER Mary 50y boarder widow laundress b. Toronto Canada
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so is No'lin a French name ?
I have found No'lin in Lorraine ,France in 1800's
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Hi thankyou everyone you have got the right Allar’s, but I am really stuck on how to find Marcella Nolin and Donald McDonald, as there are lots of McDonalds in the Ontario records do you think by cutting it down to the Donald McDonald would there be less with that name?
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Thanks I have just seen that the name McDonnell is mentioned, how can I follow that line in Ontario?
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if you have the time -lol
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&ignore_each_patronyme=&ignore_each_prenom=&type_periode=between&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&sexe=&nom=mcdonald&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=donald&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Canada&country__0__=CAN®ion__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=®ion__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=®ion__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=®ion__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=®ion__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
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Census 1881 at 11 Victoria Terrace Battersea (Ancestry)
FLETCHER Henry 30y head assistant baker b. Stockwell Surrey Kent
FLETCHER Mary 30y wife b. Canada
FLETCHER Emily 5y dau b. Toronto Canada
FLETCHER Hetty 3y dau b. Wandsworth Surrey
So they have travelled to England between 1876 and 1878?
For the Census, 1911, at 46 Canonbury Rd Islington, Mary FLETCHER, 62 years, boarder, widow, born America, nationality Canadian....has volunteered the information....married 20 years....four children born....one child still living.
Is this woman your Mary / Marcella McDONALD, married Henry FLETCHER?
Henrietta FLETCHER, Census 1881, must be dead by 1911. Who are the other two children?.
Do you see a birth, Canada, for........eg........ Marcella FLETCHER.......a distinctive name?
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Thanks I have just seen that the name McDonnell is mentioned, how can I follow that line in Ontario?
https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?size=10&sexe=&nom=mcdonnell&ignore_each_patronyme=&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&ignore_each_prenom=&place__0__=&zonegeo__0__=Canada&country__0__=CAN®ion__0__=&subregion__0__=&place__1__=&zonegeo__1__=&country__1__=®ion__1__=&subregion__1__=&place__2__=&zonegeo__2__=&country__2__=®ion__2__=&subregion__2__=&place__3__=&zonegeo__3__=&country__3__=®ion__3__=&subregion__3__=&place__4__=&zonegeo__4__=&country__4__=®ion__4__=&subregion__4__=&type_periode=between&from=&to=&exact_month=&exact_day=&exact_year=&go=1
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so is No'lin a French name ?
I have found No'lin in Lorraine ,France in 1800's
I would say Nolin is a French name. Looking on a google map of the Kenyon Concession area it is approximately 110 km SW from Montreal.
I have been searching All Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 results for a Marcella/Mecelline and variations and also just the surname Nolin 1820 +/- 10 years (as we don't know her approx birth date) with 266 results (male and female as ancestry is refusing to search female only)
There is a Marie Marcelline Nolin baptism 1827 in St-Gervais Bellechasse but the transcript doesn't give parents names and my eyes are too old to read the original image.
Geneanet gives the same 1 result.
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Thank you so much for your help. I think Nolin is French too. I have been coming to a brick wall time and time again.
What I do find interesting is I believe Marcella and Donald were Catholic and therefore their daughter Mary was probably baptised Catholic, but Mary’s daughter Emily married a Huguenot descendant and Mary and Emily became Protestant.
I would love to find out more about them as my Grandmother ( Emily’s daughter) would tell me that her Great Great Grandfather was killed by a bear in Canada, it could be just hearsay but who knows.