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Title: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Friday 24 July 20 01:44 BST (UK)
Could anyone please work a little magic and tidy up this photograph of Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski of 304 Squadron.  It is of very poor quality but is the only known photograph of him in his RAF days during WW2.  Many thanks
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 24 July 20 12:55 BST (UK)
One from me
Pat
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Friday 24 July 20 15:13 BST (UK)

 a quickie from me :D
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Friday 24 July 20 17:07 BST (UK)
To Trishanne and tomkin.  Thank you both very much for the excellent work on this picture.  The family of Zygmunt Zwolinski will be delighted as there are very few photos of him in uniform in existence.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Friday 24 July 20 17:14 BST (UK)
  Anytime Elliven.  I think the mark near his eye on his left cheek, looks like a scar

        or something so I've not messed with it. ;D ;D

       Might get around to doing a better job on the rest of the picture but I'm very busy at the

      moment.  I'm also waiting for the nettle stings on my right arm to subside.  :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
               Why am I having trouble posting ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Friday 24 July 20 17:26 BST (UK)
Yes, that is a scar.  And I am absolutely delighted with the result which will ultimately go to his sons and daughter and probably on the 304 Squadron tribute site.  I have the research skills but I can't do the photo restorations.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 24 July 20 18:06 BST (UK)
I didn't realise that was a scar, so I have now scarred his face
Pat
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Friday 24 July 20 22:55 BST (UK)
Sorry,

That was my fault.  I should have mentioned the scar in my original request.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 25 July 20 14:21 BST (UK)

              This is a representation and must NOT be taken as historically correct.

            It is for interest only.

           Elliven if you want me to remove the badge and the medal bar then please let me know.

          The uniform is 304 squadron WW2
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Sunday 26 July 20 18:01 BST (UK)
Thank you tomkin,

I will not use this as an historical picture for the reasons you have said.  But his family will love it.  They have few photographs of him in uniform and none of them are of good quality and especially not in colour.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Sunday 26 July 20 18:07 BST (UK)

             I don't like it Elliven , I may re-do it. I usually leave such work for a week and then

        look at it again with fresh eyes. Now I look at it, it doesn't look right :( :( :(
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Sunday 26 July 20 18:49 BST (UK)
The only thing I can see wrong is the Signals badge - he was a mechanic but I wouldn't criticise you for that
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 16:48 BST (UK)

      An attempt trying to be more realistic ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 27 July 20 17:07 BST (UK)
I like your other one Tomkin...I think you have done a great job, the only thing I would add would be a pale blue shirt and a black tie and swap the signals half brevet for the right initial and put it on the left side above the medal ribbons   ;)
My Son is RAF Air Crew and always helps me out on RAF uniform ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: barryd on Monday 27 July 20 17:41 BST (UK)
Photographs of 304 Squadron.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk035Qy0JE6T-mDfuU_gPDEia4cpN0w:1595867183140&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=304+polish+squadron+raf&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR37zE7O3qAhWgB50JHccwCioQsAR6BAgCEAE&biw=1920&bih=969
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 17:42 BST (UK)
            Amended the previous one to make it look more realistic.  Removed the medal ribbon

   because i don't know what medals he had. Removed the Signals Badge because Elliven

     said he was a Mechanic, but thanks carol for your, as usual, good help and advise. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 17:48 BST (UK)
 Thanks barryd. I saw this site but as I didn't know what role Zygmund played it didn't help much.

   You could say I was flying blind ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D but thanks for the help mate.

    That's why I say that they are not historically correct.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: medpat on Monday 27 July 20 18:03 BST (UK)
He did have a signals/electronics badge on his right arm in the original photo - a mech got the badge as it was for anyone in the telecoms trade.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 18:32 BST (UK)
     " He did have a signals/electronics badge on his right arm in the original photo - a mech got the badge as it was for anyone in the telecoms trade."

          It wasn't his uniform, that's why I said it was inaccurate.   And as I don't know if, he was

    in telecoms I have removed it, but thanks mate, I learn something new every day. :D :D
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: medpat on Monday 27 July 20 18:38 BST (UK)
The original photo on the first post of this thread has the badge and if that's him in his uniform when he served in the RAF he's wearing a signals(telecoms)/electronics badge. It's not the eagle that would be higher.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 19:40 BST (UK)

                 Tha's lost me mate ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: medpat on Monday 27 July 20 19:46 BST (UK)
The black and white photo that wanted to be improved at the beginning of the thread. By the way he's an LAC not a corporal on it
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 19:52 BST (UK)

    If you think that the arm you can see on the lower left belongs to Zygmunt , it doesn't.

    it's part of a group picture and it's the left arm of somebody else . At least that's what

    I see. But my eye's a'int that good.  I can also see somebody's boot just behind Zygmut.
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: medpat on Monday 27 July 20 20:04 BST (UK)
You could be right there perhaps I should put the lights on as it's dark here  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Monday 27 July 20 20:30 BST (UK)
Thanks to everyone who has replied here - your input is appreciated.

barryd that's a great site.  A lot of the photos on it are from my site (they have been credited properly) and those were given to me by members of the airman's families.  But there are fakes on it - the four four-engined bombers have visible guns in their turrets.  The only time 304 flew the heavies was after the War in Transport Command but these ones show guns peeking out of the turret and Transport Command was unarmed after the war.  Still a great site.

tomkin is right - the original photo was a group picture but was mostly blurred by cigarette smoke so I cropped it to get the man I wanted.  Even if the smoke could be removed, I have no idea of their identities.

medpat is also right about the rank but I write about them under their demob rank or the rank they held when they were killed, which is not necessarily their rank in the pictures I use.

Carol - your comment might make you my new consultant on RAF ranks!

Once again, thank you all
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Monday 27 July 20 22:39 BST (UK)

            "You could be right there perhaps I should put the lights on as it's dark here  ;D ;D ;D"

         No problem mate. I've got a permanent squint from looking at it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: Elliven on Tuesday 28 July 20 00:57 BST (UK)
tomkin, you have done an amazing job and I am very grateful especially since it is something I don't have the skill to do myself
Title: Re: Corporal Zygmunt Zwolinski
Post by: tomkin on Tuesday 28 July 20 11:17 BST (UK)
  No problem Elliven :D Only too glad to help. Let us know if his family are happy, we owe

  such a great debt to the Poles in WW2.