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Title: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Thursday 30 July 20 19:15 BST (UK)
Cheery Hello from Dallas-Fort Worth Texas!

Two days ago, I received a box of old photos from a second cousin. She was kind enough to give them to me. She was moving to New Hampshire and knew that I was interested in any family photos of my Wylde Family from England.  They go back to the Wylde family of the Commandery in Worcester.  This family emigrated to the United States in 1867. When I opened the box of old photos that had been labeled by an old Great Aunt, I was thrilled to see my Wylde family for the first time. 

My great grandmother Elizabeth Barrow Wylde, the great granddaughter of John Barrow, Magistrate of Wedmore, died within a week of giving birth to my grandfather.  Her sister, Cecelia, shown in this picture, moved in with the family to help raise my grandfather and his older sister.

Her name was Cecelia Wylde, and this was a photo taken of her with my grandfather and his sister. 

I would love to have this photo restored.  I have tried everything in my limited purview to enhance it with no luck.

The little girl, Grace Andrews Wylde, died when she was a young teenager in Crafton, Pennsylvania after the family moved from Nyack, New York.  Her father had remarried and his wife wanted to moved to her home area.  She died from Typhoid Fever.  This is the first picture I have seen of her.  I would love to be able to isolate her in a separate photo.  My many thanks to all of you for helping me in this endeavor.

Here is her memorial on findagrave:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5798809/cecelia-washburn
Title: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Thursday 30 July 20 23:47 BST (UK)
Thanks ever so much for helping with this old photo.
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: jim1 on Friday 31 July 20 11:15 BST (UK)
Hello Carole
Long time no hear.
So what do you want doing?
OK I see you like it that much you've put it on twice.
Threads merged.
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 12:03 BST (UK)

            Hi Carole, any idea of hair and eye colour?

               Doesn't really matter as these can be altered later to your preference.
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: Ian Nelson on Friday 31 July 20 12:12 BST (UK)
thought they were a bit lost with the background showing the same shade ... so lightened it ...
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Ian Nelson on Friday 31 July 20 12:23 BST (UK)
Here's Grace Wylde, ready for colouring
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 13:06 BST (UK)

    Just a quick experiment before I start :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 13:11 BST (UK)

           And a framed one for Carol and Gadget :P :P :P :P  ;D ;D ;D

         No! NOT Carol in Dallas,  but Carol ( Treetotal )


               Large Cornish Pasty time :D :D :D :D
     
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: Gadget on Friday 31 July 20 13:23 BST (UK)
A very nice restore of a wonderful photo, Tomkin  :)

HOWEVER~~~

The frame is just not right. It's far too ornate and the gold colour is wrong.  A very simple white border with  a toned outer border would be better  :D

(Nice to see you back Carole)
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: HeatherLynne on Friday 31 July 20 13:27 BST (UK)
Wow Tomkin!  What an amazing restoration, so sharp!  Keep scrolling up and down to compare the original with your version.  Fantastic  ;D

Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 13:49 BST (UK)
            " The frame is just not right. It's far to ornate and the gold colour is wrong. "

               Yer only jealous becoz you ain't got a frame as good :P :P :P :P :P

   P.S. The Cornish Pasty was 227 grams , 569 Kcal of deliciousness, so some more :P :P :P :P :P

 P.P.S. As Gadget knows, the frame is a joke and not to be taken seriously ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D

             
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: Ian Nelson on Friday 31 July 20 14:58 BST (UK)
Grace Wylde solo in colour ... didn't know which thread to post on, chose this one .. no reason, cheers, Ian
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 31 July 20 15:22 BST (UK)
Duplicate post -

Threads merged.
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 31 July 20 15:33 BST (UK)
Here is the group photo, it's a beautiful photo.
Pat
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Trishanne on Friday 31 July 20 15:44 BST (UK)
One of Grace on her own
Pat
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 15:49 BST (UK)

                       " Wow Tomkin! "

             Thanks Heather, it's a lot easier when the original is such good quality :D :D :D
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Friday 31 July 20 16:46 BST (UK)
Good Morning All!

Many many thanks for these wonderful photos.

The child holding the doll I believe is actually my grandfather.  Grace is the girl standing.

At first, I looked at was labeled on the back of the photo and it did state Smith Haring [James Smith Haring] 3 years old and his sister Grace 5 years old.  Since I saw his ears, I thought it must be a correct labeling. However I was a bit confused because it looks like he has hair pulled back dressed in a dress.

Any ideas why in 1900 he would be dressed that way?

Thanks again!  All of you have been wonderful!  Hugs of appreciation from Texas!

The children were both blue eyed with Grace appearing to have lighter blue eyes.  She was blonde like my mother it appears.  My mother had intense blue eyes.
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Friday 31 July 20 16:58 BST (UK)
I have been away awhile.  We have alot of tragedy in the family.  A young niece died in her 30s from cancer.  My brother died at 52 from cancer.  My son's family was exposed to Corona Virus from a nanny. 

Been diving into findagrave adding a lot memorials there.

So good to be back to see everyone!
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Gadget on Friday 31 July 20 17:04 BST (UK)
Quote
Any ideas why in 1900 he would be dressed that way?

So sorry to hear of your sadnesses and send a hug  :-*

Little boys were often dressed like that until they were maybe 5-7, when they were 'breeched' i.e. put in trousers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeching_(boys)

My father (b. 1905) wore dresses for a while as a youngster. We had a lovely little tartan dress of his. I think my sister had it. 

Gadget
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 17:28 BST (UK)

                           " My father (b. 1905) wore dresses "

                    I still do! :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

           I have it on good authority that when I was young, I had the most beautiful ringlets.

             Where the hell did they disappear to ??? ??? ??? ???

                A bit of colour.   As usual slightly bright to offset printing dullness.

              Can alter brightness, saturation etc. if required.
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: DanNC on Friday 31 July 20 17:47 BST (UK)
One more for the pile   ;D
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 31 July 20 17:58 BST (UK)
Apologies for this, and I could, of course (not unusual), be totally wrong, BUT

The child on the left, holding the doll, is the female - puffed sleeves on the dress AND why would you portray a boy holding a doll in this era?  The child on the right is the male - semblance of bow tie, no puffed sleeves.

 :-\
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 18:20 BST (UK)

            I can see where you're coming from BB :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Gadget on Friday 31 July 20 18:36 BST (UK)
I wondered about the child holding the doll when I saw Tomkin's colouring.
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Friday 31 July 20 18:57 BST (UK)
On the back of the photo this is what it said
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Friday 31 July 20 19:00 BST (UK)
Here is a photo of my grandfather 
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Friday 31 July 20 19:16 BST (UK)
 And another
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Saturday 01 August 20 16:23 BST (UK)
Oh my goodness!  These are simply lovely!  I cannot thank you enough. 

Hugs of appreciation to all you!  Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Saturday 01 August 20 16:26 BST (UK)
I need an opion.

Which of these two are actually my grandfather based on the photo I uploaded when he was a bit older?

So confusing! 
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 01 August 20 16:35 BST (UK)
For what it's worth - the child on the right.
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 01 August 20 16:48 BST (UK)
I would also say that the one on the right. Both have the ears, it's just that the child on the right is not as full on to the camera.

Add - note that the shoulders are slightly turned
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Saturday 01 August 20 19:45 BST (UK)
One is 3 years old and one if 5 years old.  Does the one on the right look to be 3 vs. 5 years old? Now that I look at it again, I do see where the one on the right is my grandfather.  I am glad I uploaded this photo here!  I had put the boy on the girl's memorial on findagrave.

Thanks all!  YOU have helped me tremendously! Where in the world did they get those ears?  I had to smile!

Here he is in his 20s.  He was always a "dapper" dresser.  All dressed up to walk through the park!
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Saturday 01 August 20 20:06 BST (UK)
One other quick question.

I would love to use your restorations on my tree on ancestry.com, findagrave.com and familysearch.org and wanted ask permission to do so.  Also, how would you like for me to state the credit?  Thanks again!

These are stunning and I am thrilled to have these for my family to share now. 
Title: Re: Thanks for Helping Me An Old Photo of Cecelia Wylde
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Saturday 01 August 20 22:31 BST (UK)
            "
   P.S. The Cornish Pasty was 227 grams , 569 Kcal of deliciousness, so some more :P :P :P :P :P

             

I had to look up what a Cornish Pasty was!  I looked on allrecipes.com to see how to make it.

With everyone being so shut in here in Texas, it might be fun to try a new dish.  Does this recipe look like a good one?

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/12246/cornish-pasty/?internalSource=hub%20recipe&referringContentType=Search&clickId=cardslot%201
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 01 August 20 22:42 BST (UK)

             " wanted ask permission to do so.  Also, how would you like for me to state the credit?  Thanks again! "

          You've got my permission, and just credit RootsChat Restorers or something. :D

              "  Does this recipe look like a good one? "

          Don't know ??? ??? ???  I'll eat anything ;D

            Some of the variants  look very interesting especially with Rutabaga  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Ian Nelson on Sunday 02 August 20 00:38 BST (UK)
Carole in Dallas.  I don't think you need my permission as I was tinkering with your own photographs. If you do, then you have it as I'm grateful for the opportunity to practice the repairing and restoring of pix which I can then apply to my own family's collections.   Half my family have sticky out lugs, including me and only my youngest sister had hers 'normalized' by a plastic surgeon at Canniesburn hospital, Bearsden, nr. Glasgow when she was 12 years old as she was bullied and mocked at her school.  A very simple 'cut' of some cartilage was all that was needed.  My brothers and I suffered the same but learned to fight, my usual response to ' Loppy Lugs' and ' Nelly the Elephant' and ' Hoi, Big Ears, where's Noddy?' was ' you may well laugh but they're not half as funny as your broken nose.'
Here's what James would have looked like if he had had the operation.
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: ichthys on Saturday 08 August 20 14:26 BST (UK)
I apparently have plenty of time on my hands since in victoria we are under lockdown, so i thought I would give this one a go, I took some artistic licensing and changed the background. Also 2 versions a sepia and a b&w one
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: ichthys on Saturday 08 August 20 14:28 BST (UK)
 :)
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Monday 10 August 20 01:37 BST (UK)
Thank YOU ever so much for the additional photos.  I do love the full photo like that!  Hugs to you!
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Monday 10 August 20 01:38 BST (UK)
Carole in Dallas.  I don't think you need my permission as I was tinkering with your own photographs. If you do, then you have it as I'm grateful for the opportunity to practice the repairing and restoring of pix which I can then apply to my own family's collections.   Half my family have sticky out lugs, including me and only my youngest sister had hers 'normalized' by a plastic surgeon at Canniesburn hospital, Bearsden, nr. Glasgow when she was 12 years old as she was bullied and mocked at her school.  A very simple 'cut' of some cartilage was all that was needed.  My brothers and I suffered the same but learned to fight, my usual response to ' Loppy Lugs' and ' Nelly the Elephant' and ' Hoi, Big Ears, where's Noddy?' was ' you may well laugh but they're not half as funny as your broken nose.'
Here's what James would have looked like if he had had the operation.

You made me chuckle with your story!  Thanks ever so much for the smile!

I did not have ears like that, but my little grandson does!  I was wondering where these came from!  Now I know!  Smiling!
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Monday 10 August 20 14:21 BST (UK)
Couple I forgot to put on
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: tomkin on Monday 10 August 20 14:21 BST (UK)

  And a tint
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Monday 10 August 20 16:39 BST (UK)
I love these! Your acumen and skill is breathtaking. Deep and grateful thanks sent your way!
Title: Re: My Wylde Family Photos
Post by: Carole in Dallas on Tuesday 11 August 20 21:38 BST (UK)
I had to take a moment to thank each and everyone of you for taking your time to help me restore this photo.  Cecelia was pretty special to me since she stepped into the shoes of my great grandmother when she died to take care of her two children.  My grandfather was only a week old when his mother died.  Each and every one of these restorations are near and dear to my heart and I am truly grateful!  Thanks once again!