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Title: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: danieloks2ndaccount on Thursday 06 August 20 00:06 BST (UK)
Hello all, I am researching my aunt and uncles family trees, and I need a little help finding out info about their parents and grandparents. They are both living, born in the 1950s.
My uncles parents were John Ferguson and Agnes.
My aunts parents were Robert Murray 1920-? and Elizabeth 1928-?.
My uncle came from New Cumnock, I'm not sure about his parents.
My aunt and her father came from Tarbolton, I'm not sure about her mother.
My uncles father died in Tarbolton.

Thats all the info I have.
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: crisane on Thursday 06 August 20 02:30 BST (UK)
Index of births on ScotlandsPeople has this birth registration.You may have to get your Aunt and Uncle to buy some credits so you can purchase some certificates which will give you the parents names and occupations.
Robert Murray 1920 registration district Tarbolton ref 619/ 33

Your Aunts and Uncles birth certificates should give the full names of  both their parents. Do they have them?
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Wendy2305 on Thursday 06 August 20 13:16 BST (UK)
There's a marriage in 1932 New Cumnock between a John Ferguson and Agnes Murray which maybe your uncles parents also a death of Agnes Murray other name Ferguson mother name Connor in 1988 in New Cumnock
There are also a few deaths of Ferguson mothers name Murray in New Cumnock did your uncle have any siblings who have passed you could check mother's name on Scotland People
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: danieloks2ndaccount on Thursday 06 August 20 16:13 BST (UK)
My uncle has a brother and a sister who are both living. I'm not sure about any of my aunts siblings.
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Thursday 06 August 20 17:23 BST (UK)
Do your Aunt & Uncle have middle names which might give us a clue?

The 1932 marriage sounds a bit early for 1950's births.
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Thursday 06 August 20 18:05 BST (UK)
A possibility ....John Ferguson, born 1925, Lugar, died 1956, Tarbolton. based on the info that the 'Uncle's father died in Tarbolton'
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: danieloks2ndaccount on Thursday 06 August 20 20:09 BST (UK)
My uncles middle name is Davidson and my aunts is Ogilve.
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 07 August 20 09:32 BST (UK)
Do you know when approx their parents died & where, if possible.

Are you 100% on the wife's names Agnes & Elizabeth

Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: crisane on Friday 07 August 20 21:36 BST (UK)
Can you ask your uncle and aunt for the details of their parents on their birth certificates or don't  you want them to know you are doing this research for them?
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: danieloks2ndaccount on Saturday 08 August 20 20:19 BST (UK)
They know I am doing this research, also I got some more information. Today I found John and Agnes' grave Agnes was nicknamed Netta on the grave. John Ferguson died in 1984 aged 63 and Agnes Davidson died in 1993 aged 76. My aunt told me her dad died on his 60th birthday in 1980, scotlandspeople has it down as he died at 59. She said her mum died around 4 or 5 years ago so about 2015. I also got Roberts mother who was Josephine Murray. She died in 1968 at 81.
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: crisane on Saturday 08 August 20 23:06 BST (UK)
There are two deaths for a Robert Murray 1980 age 59 on Scotlandspeople. One is in the registration district Renfrew with the mother's maiden name Rankin and the other is in the Ayr registration district mother's maiden name McNeil. Which one is the death of your Aunt's father Robert Murray 1920-1980

I'd say this is your Aunt's Grandmother and grandfather's marriage.
James Murray married a Josephine McNeil 1909 registration district Tarbolton ref 619/ 5
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Sunday 09 August 20 12:49 BST (UK)
John Ferguson, born 1921, New Cumnock, died 1984 Ayr

John Ferguson married Janet (Netta) Crawford Davidson, 1947 Old Cumnock

Janet Crawford Ferguson (nee Davidson) MMN Purdie died 1993, Ayr

John Ferguson Sr, born 1882, New Cumnock, died 1954 New Cumnock

son of James Ferguson & Margaret McKnight,(1856-1913) married 1878, New Cumnock

John Ferguson Sr married Catherine Houston, 1904 New Cumnock

Catherine Houston born 1883 Coylton, died 1948 New Cumnock

1911 census Girvan, John age 28, Catherine age 28, Mary age 8, Maggie age 6 & Annie age 1

More to come later
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Sunday 09 August 20 13:01 BST (UK)
Janet Crawford Davidson, born Old Cumnock 1917

Parents... James Withers Davidson & Mary Haugh Purdie, married 1911, Old Cumnock

1911 census Tarbolton, James Murray, age 38, Josephine, age 25, William age 1

Josephine Land McNeill born 1885, Coylton

James Murray born 1873, Fenwick

more to come
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Sunday 09 August 20 14:06 BST (UK)
Hi Daniel

Not been able to find a marriage for Robert Murray to an Elizabeth or any that would match a death 4 to 5 years ago. Do you know where she died?
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: danieloks2ndaccount on Monday 10 August 20 00:05 BST (UK)
I am guessing Elizabeth died in Tarbolton. I found a death a few days ago on scotlandspeople that looked like the right one an Elizabeth Murray who died in 2012 aged 84. I can't remember where it said she died but I think it was Ayr or Tarbolton.
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: ev on Monday 10 August 20 07:51 BST (UK)
Think that's Elizabeth Mitch(?) Perry(or Murray)  :-\

Marriage , James Devine Murray / Elizabeth Mitch(?) Perry , 1950 Ayr Ayr.


ev
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Monday 10 August 20 08:56 BST (UK)
Hi Daniel.

I think the only solution to this one is your Aunt's birth cert, to find out the full names of her parents
Title: Re: Ferguson's and Murray's
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 28 August 20 19:33 BST (UK)
Hi Daniel

Any luck with your Aunt's birth cert?