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Title: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 15 August 20 15:39 BST (UK)
Subsequentlly John migrated to Australia.
The following appear to have been his grandsons all b Wilcannia NSW

John David           Luffman b1912
Frank                   Luffman b1914
William Alexander Luffman b1914
Ronald Alan          Luffman b1917

There are apparently marriages for all except Frank.

My interest is if any of their descendants in the continuous male line have taken a Y chromosome DNA test as due to possible illegitimacy in the late 18th century I am uncertain of the identity of my 3x great grandfather.
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 16 August 20 01:14 BST (UK)
You need to have a search here.

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?1

I would say Ronald is not your line.
Frank C. 's birth date is shown as 1918.

Wedding anniversary for John Triton (junior??) and his wife Margaret nee Somerville.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/142051813


Obituary.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/104122921

Sue
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 16 August 20 01:25 BST (UK)
This seems to be the marriage of "Frank"

4551/1942
LUFFMAN Francis Colin Michael
O'NEILL Joan Ellen
At NEWTOWN

The index record of his WW2 service

https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=261973&c=WW2

His NOK is wife Joan and he was born Tilpa in 1918.
Sue

ADDING- Both deceased
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: majm on Sunday 16 August 20 02:03 BST (UK)
There's a wikitree here : https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Wilcannia%2C_New_South_Wales - perhaps the tree owner has contact details for the living descendants?

JM
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 16 August 20 03:38 BST (UK)
NSW birth: 11/05/1918
20134/1918 Frank C. LUFFMAN; Father John T. ; Mother Margaret; Wilcannia

Marriage: 4551/1942 Francis Colin Michael LUFFMAN and Joan Ellen O'NEILL; Newtown
https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection
LUFFMAN FRANK COLIN MICHAEL : Service Number - NX156104 : Date of birth - 11 May 1918 : Place of birth - TILPA NSW : Place of enlistment - GERALDTON WA : Next of Kin - LUFFMAN JOAN

Deaths http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
LUFFMAN Frank Colin Michael death 28AUG2001 age 83 SMH 30AUG2001
SMH August 30, 2001 Page 32 https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/121683858/
LUFFMAN. Frank Colin Michael - August 28. 2001, Loving husband of Joan, loved father of A*** and M******, father-in-law of J*******. Papa of M******, J**** and Z**, K**** and L***, great-grandfather to L***, E***, E****, C**** and B****, loved brother of Ellen Aged 83 years. So sweet, loving and kind. A more gentle, caring Daddy one could not find Always and forever in our hearts your daughter A*** T****** and son M****** B****. FRANK'S family and friends are invited to attend his funeral service, to be held in the West Chapel. Woronora Crematorium. Linden St.. Sutherland. Friday (August 31. 2001). at 10.30 a m.
http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
LUFFMAN Joan Ellen death 11AUG2002 age 82 late of Miranda, formerly of Campsie SMH 13AUG2002

Franks son and daughter
Western Herald Fri 13 Apr 1945 Page 1 Personal Items (2nd column) https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/142502904
Mr. and Mrs. F. Luffman are receiving congratulations on the birth of a baby daughter (A*** T******) born at Marrickville on 30th March. Frank is serving with the A.I.F. in New Britain.

SMH April 2, 1947 Page 44 (left hand page in this link https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19470403&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
LUFFMAN. March 8, at Bethesda. Marrickville, to Frank and Joan the gift of a son (M****** B****).

Sons marriage
9182/1969 M****** B**** LUFFMAN and J******* HULIN; Sydney
Daughters marriage
32310/1964 MACMILLAN/McMILLAN K****** J**** and A*** T****** LUFFMAN; Burwood

May be of interest http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/pages/public/entitydetails.aspx?popup=1&save=0&entityid=15650
https://abr.business.gov.au/ABN/View?abn=84581419757
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01ptv/
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 16 August 20 05:56 BST (UK)
James Alexander LUFFMAN and John Triton LUFFMAN (Jr.) were sons of John Triton LUFFMAN (Sr.)
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Luffman-128
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/167279213/john-triton-luffman

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Luffman-6
Ronald Allan Luffman Born 1917 in Wilcannia, NSW
Son of James Alexander Luffman and Margaret May (Newman) Luffman
Brother of Florence E M (Luffman) Duncan and Sylvia Anne (Luffman) Letton

Birth: 10993/1880 James Alexander LUFFMAN ; Father John; Mother Mary Margaret; Bourke
Marriage: 7585/1911 James A. LUFFMAN and Margaret M NEWMAN; Wilcannia

Children:
23824/1912 Florence E. LUFFMAN; Father James A. ; Mother Margaret M. ; Wilcannia
52584/1914 Sylvia A. LUFFMAN; Father James A. ; Mother Margaret M. ; Wilcannia
19883/1917 Ronald A. LUFFMAN; Father James A. ; Mother Margaret M. ; Wilcannia

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139557382
ENGAGEMENT
MILES - LUFFMAN - The engagement is announced of Miss Doreen Miles, B.A., second daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Robert Miles, Gumbooya, Brookvale, to Ronald Allan Luffman, 'Nangara,' eldest son of Mrs. M. Luffman and late J. A. Luffman, of 'Glenroy,' Tilpa.
http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
LUFFMAN Ronald Allan (Ron) death 14NOV2013 age 96 late of Dubbo, formerly of Tilpa; Dubbo Daily Liberal 16NOV2013   
LUFFMAN Doreen, death 20SEP2010 age 96: late of Dubbo; Dubbo Daily Liberal 23SEP2010   

Marriage of their son https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/103963059
May be of interest https://abr.business.gov.au/ABN/View?id=96264622164
http://sportsclean.com.au/about-us/
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 16 August 20 10:52 BST (UK)
Very many thanks to all who have replied so far. Plenty to follow up there! Perhaps one has even had a DNA test.
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 16 August 20 11:01 BST (UK)
Probate and Administration Files Wills for John Triton Luffman (Sr.) and John David LUFFMAN https://prov.vic.gov.au/search_journey/select?q=series_id:(28%207591%207592%207933%2017379)%20AND%20family_name:(Luffman)%20AND%20given_name:(John)&start_date=&end_date=&form_origin=WILL_SEARCH
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 16 August 20 11:17 BST (UK)
Vic death: 15461/1980 John David LUFFMAN; age 68; John Triton LUFFMAN; Margaret Mary
SOMMERVILLE; Mildura

This must be the burial of John David LUFFMAN and wife Mary Ellen LUFFMAN
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211558681/john-luffman
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211558682/mary-luffman
Title: Re: Male descendants of Joh Triton Luffman b India 1846
Post by: cupoflife on Sunday 16 August 20 11:21 BST (UK)
NSW marriage: 11470/1941 John David LUFFMAN and Mary Ellen TEERMAN; Bourke
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/141906979