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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: bugbear on Monday 17 August 20 18:46 BST (UK)
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I have a father-son relationship, beautifully defined by 2 record images.
A marriage;
29 Jul 1928, All Saints, South Lynn, England between Arthur Samuel Took and Ethel May Bentley shows Arthur's father as George.
In the 1939 register we have Arthur and Ethel esconsed at No 8 Smiths Cottages (Grimston Rd, South Wooton, still there!) with George Took at No 5.
This (of course) means that I have George and Arthur's names and dates of birth (1862, 1903)
But I cannot find any definite record for either of them in 1911 census or earlier. Which ought to be an easy search.
I have a false match of a George Tuck (baker/confectioner) in 1911, but he leads to a separate record in 1939, so it's not him.
What am I missing?
BugBear
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Is this Ethel May from her father's WW1 Army Record?? Or am I misreading your post and you already have Ethel :-\
Name: Ethel May Bentley
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1906
Birth Place: Kings Lynn
Age: 8
Document Year: 1914
Henry Stephen Bentley Self (Head)
Edith May Collidge Spouse
Ethel May Bentley Child
Winifred Kap Bentley Child
Henry William H Bentley Child
Added 1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7RQ-MJY
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TOOKE, ARTHUR
Mother's Maiden Surname: KIDD
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in WAYLAND Volume 04B Page 236
Son of George and Mary Ann
Dec 1886 Wayland 4b 671
Kidd, Mary Ann
Took, George
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Here they are in the 1911 free index
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7RM-ZB1
Living in Thompson, near Thetford.
Arthur, 7, born Larling.
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If you're using Ancestry, as well as the mis-spelling of the surname, Arthur is indexed as Aarthur!
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If you're using Ancestry, as well as the mis-spelling of the surname, Arthur is indexed as Aarthur!
Mabel, doing a double check, he may be Aarthur on the image! Not that we can mention that of course.
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Some marriage details - as indexed (the handwriting isn't clear)
George Cork, labourer, bachelor
Father: Archibald Cork, shop hand (?)
May Ann Kidd, spinster
Father, Samuel Kidd, postman
Both full age, both signed
Marriage 18 Oct 1886 Larling, Norfolk,
Witnesses Walter Kidd Maxim(?), Eliza Kidd
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1901 - all born Larling except as shown
George Toak 38 - ag lab b Snetterton
Mary Ann Toak 38
Ethel Louise Toak 15
Birtie G Toak 11
Jessie C Toak 10 (daughter)
Hilda E Toak 3
If you have access to the 1911 census image, you will spot something doesn't add up!
Class: RG13; Piece: 1867; Folio: 96; Page: 5
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Dad and Grandad - 1881, No 2 California, Snetterton. As indexed, All b Snetterton except where shown
Arch. Toole 51 - ag lab b Tacolneston
Maria Toole 51
Jno. Toole 25
Geo. Toole 19
Jas. Saunders Toole 10
RG11; 1974; 152; 8;
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1901 - all born Larling except as shown
George Toak 38 - ag lab b Snetterton
Mary Ann Toak 38
Ethel Louise Toak 15
Birtie G Toak 11
Jessie C Toak 10 (daughter)
Hilda E Toak 3
If you have access to the 1911 census image, you will spot something doesn't add up!
Class: RG13; Piece: 1867; Folio: 96; Page: 5
Looks like what doesn't add up is Ethel - born Ethel Louisa Kidd. She has at least one other Kidd sibling Ernest William (or vice versa) born c1882. She gives George as her father when she marries. though
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Baptism of Ethel Louisa
Ethel Louisa Kidd born 27June 1885 baptised 22 August 1885
Mother Mary Ann Kidd abode Larling illegitimate mother a single woman.
St Ethelberts Larling Norfolk.
Tazzie
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I had found this Took/Kidd family before, but dismissed it for "geographic" reasons.
It's 40 miles to Kings Lynn from Snetterton/Thompson, which is possible but slightly worrying. Especially since George (and Archibald before him) had bee so very static. There are definitely possible, and (of course) the names and DOBs are a good fit.
But the research on the Took/Kidd possibility is valuable, so my heaarty thanks to those who did it.
BugBear
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There is a school record indexed
Arthur Took
born 1903
admitted 1909
Thompson National/Council School, Norfolk
If someone could take a look, see if there is a day/month of birth?
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Appears that sister Hilda Took was also admitted to Thompson National School in 1909, and before that was at Larling School.
Bertie and Jessie also at Larling.
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Date of birth for Arthur Took on school admission record is 20 Sep 1903. ( Hilda's dob is 22 March 1898. Previous school Hocklade. Father George - a labourer). Date pf leaving for Arthur April 1 1915 and Hilda 20 March 1913.
William
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Well done, William, thank you so much.
That date of birth could be good news for BugBear!
John
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Marriage;
Maria SAUNDERS
Archibald TOOK
20 Nov 1853, All Saints, Snetterton
Both 24, Bachelor/Spinster
Fathers JOHN Took and JOHN Saunders
All men Labourers
Witnesses William SAUNDERS/William LOVEDAY
Groom sighed x
(FreeREG)
Archibald/Marias childrens Bapt are on there also in Snetterton.
Also the Bapt of ARCHER Took 1830 Tacolneston
Trish :)
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Well done, William, thank you so much.
That date of birth could be good news for BugBear!
John
Well, indeed. That school record would appear to end any possible doubt as to the identification.
EXCELLENT news.
Arthur's grand-daughter (for whom I'm doing this research) will be very happy.
BugBear