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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: kiwistar on Wednesday 19 August 20 08:33 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone
Just needing help tracking down Mary Jane Wilkinson Thurlbeck. I have found her born 24 Oct 1844 in Sunderland and passed away 05 Jan 1912 Durham. I know her father was Pratt Wilkinson and Mother was Eliza Hammet. I just want to know where the Thurlbeck came in. I presume she was married but would love to find out any help would be great thanks. I know she married John Wardropper
Many thanks
Sally
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Could you just say which GRO birth reference you have for her, and her year of marriage, please?
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For reference - Is this the family in 1851 living in Bishopwearmouth Durham??
Pratt Wilkinson 39
Eliza Wilkinson 35
Eliza H Wilkinson 13
Mary A Wilkinson 6
Robert Wilkinson 4
Isabella Wilkinson 18 Months
On the GRO Birth Index this Mary is listed as Mary Ann Wilkinson - Where did you find the surname Thurlbeck?
Kay
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OK - different birth date and Mary Ann NOT Mary Jane??
Mary Ann Wilkinson
Born 14th January 1844
Baptised 7 Feb 1844
Baptisd at Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham
Father: Pratt Wilkinson Mother: Eliza
Mary Ann Wilkinson
Age: 19
Married on 28th September 1862 at Deptford, Durham
Father: Pratt Wilkinson Spouse: John Wardropper
When does she use Thurlbeck?
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In 1861 Marriage John Wardropper to Mary Jane Thurlbeck, in 1862 marriage of John Wardropper to Mary Ann Wilkinson.
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According to Find A Will she was living at 27 Ford Street, Sunderland at the time of her death. Administration of her estate was granted to her husband, John Wardropper, shipwright.
Named as Margaret Jane. Date of death 5 January 1912
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Entered in error
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Just to emphasise they are two different John Wardroppers ( and that Mary Ann Wilkinson and Mary Jane Thurlbeck are not the same person).
The John Wardropper who married Mary Ann Wilkinson was a gilder. Mary Ann Wardropper died in 1910.
The John Wardropper who married Mary J Thurlbeck was a shipwright.
William
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Mary A Wardropper dies 1910 Sunderland age 66.
Mary J Wardropper dies 1912 Sunderland age 68.
Tazzie
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Sunderland Daily Echo 13 July 1910
" At 8 Grafton Street on the 13th , aged 66 years, Mary Ann ( Polly ), beloved wife of John P K Wardropper. Internment at Bishopwearmoth Cemetery on Saturday".
William
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Is this Mary Jane Thurlbeck in 1851 living in Sunderland?? Born 1843 based on FreeBMD
William Thurlbeck 37
Mary Thurlbeck 33
William W Thurlbeck 11
Mary J Thurlbeck 9 Sunderland
Williamson Thurlbeck 1
Christiane Thurlbeck 7
Kay
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Wonder if this is the source of any confusion?
There is a baptism entry on family search for a Mary Jane Thurlbeck in Sunderland 24 Sep 1843 with parents transcribed as Wilkinson Thurlbeck and Mary Taylohttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3FM-7ZBr.
William
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Wonder if this is the source of any confusion?
There is a baptism entry on family search for a Mary Jane Thurlbeck in Sunderland 24 Sep 1843 with parents transcribed as Wilkinson Thurlbeck and Mary Taylohttps://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3FM-7ZBr.
William
William that link gives a 404 page not found, I think because its appeared in your post between Taylo and r ? (Taylor)
This seems to be take me to where you intended:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3FM-7ZB
Boo
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Thanks for sorting the link, Boo.
And just to add that there appear to have been two Wilkinson / Thurlbeck marriages in Sunderland. A John Wilkinson married a Mary Thurlbeck in Bishopwearmouth in 1807 while a William Wilkinson married an Ann Thurlbeck in 1809.
William
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Thurlebeck appears on the back of the photo I have, I was just wondering if she was married before she Married John Wardropper
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Thurlebeck appears on the back of the photo I have, I was just wondering if she was married before she Married John Wardropper
How does the Thurlebeck appear - added to her name or just randomly scrawled across the back with a ?
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Added to her name so just not randomly ??? It's really confused me now as they had a portrait each done at the same time with names on the back.
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Is this your line?
Dec 1920 Sunderland 10a 1277
Griffin, Norman - spouse Wardropper
Wardropper, Jane W. - spouse Griffin
Don't know about the "W", there is a Jane Wardropper born Sunderland 1896
In 1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSCL-TL7
Jane Wardropper, 14, is with grandparents in 1911, they are John Wardropper, Shipwright, and Mary Jane
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCQ-LF9
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WARDROPPER, JANE
Mother's Maiden Surname: WATSON
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 653
From old threads, Kiwistar's grandfather was Griffin from Sunderland, went to New Zealand
Here are Norman Griffin, 29, Jane Griffin, 28, Norman Griffin, 2
on a 1925 NewZealand passenger list
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6R9Z-QF?i=47
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WARDROPPER, MARY JANE
Age at Death (in years): 68
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in SUNDERLAND Volume 10A Page 733
Burial at Sunderland Cemetery, 8 January 1912
Mary Jane Wardropper
wife of John Wardropper
age 68
27 Ford Street
Ward 13
Section AA
Grave 13454
Consecrated ground
Down near the bottom
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-J9CK-C
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Ward 13
Section AA
Grave 13454
Consecrated ground
Graves Register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSBF-G99C-6?i=341
Shows that John Wardropper was also buried in the grave, 15 June 1918
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Shows that John Wardropper was also buried in the grave, 15 June 1918
Here is his burial. Says death occurred at the Workhouse
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-J98M-4?i=917
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Sunderland Daily Echo, 6 Jan 1912
From ocr text (misses date of death!)
Death notice of Mary Jane, the beloved wife of John Wardropper, at 27 Ford Street, on the ?? inst,
interred Sunderland Cemetery on Monday.
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Thanks Jon for all your work :) :)
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On my tree I have this marriage, but I have yet to fully extend these two families.
Mary Thurlbeck
1783–1861
BIRTH 1783 • SUNDERLAND Tyne and Wear England
DEATH 27 JUN 1861 • Addison St Hendon Sunderland, Durham, England
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John Wilkinson
1783–1845
BIRTH 1783 OR 1778 ??? • SUNDERLAND Tyne and Wear England
DEATH 13 NOV 1845 • Silver St Sunderland, Durham, England
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Sunderland Holy Trinity: Mary Thurlbeck baptised 31 Aug 1783 d/o Robert and Barbara Thurlbeck
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Sunderland Daily Echo, 6 Jan 1912
From ocr text (misses date of death!)
Death notice of Mary Jane, the beloved wife of John Wardropper, at 27 Ford Street, on the ?? inst,
interred Sunderland Cemetery on Monday.
Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette
06 Jan 1912 page 2, col 7
DEATHS
WARDROPPER - At 27, Ford Street, on the 5th, aged 68 years, Mary Jane, the beloved wife of John Wardropper. Interred at Sunderland Cemetery, Ryhope Road, on Monday. Cortege to leave at 1.45p.m.
Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette
04 Jan 1913 page 4 col 5
IN MEMORIAM
WARDROPPER - In loving memory of our dear mother, Mary Jane, who died Jan 5th, 1912. Ever remembered by her loving husband and family. At rest.
Boo
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Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette
13 Jun 1918 page 2, col 4
DEATHS
WARDROPPER - On the 12th, aged 77 years. John, beloved husband of Mary Jane Wardropper. Interment at Sunderland Cemetery on Saturday. Cortege to leave 14 Green Terrace at 2 p.m.
Boo
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Thank you everyone for your wonderful help it's all a little clearer now you are all amazing ;D