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Title: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 10:26 BST (UK)
Good morning everyone
I only have access to ancestry for the Uk. Please could someone with full world access look up the following person for me
Country Germany
Person    
Johann Christian Eÿ
Link to record.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61243&h=600534600&tid=361365&pid=7022866159&queryId=71a49bc78a584c396866ee74c22f4846&usePUB=true&_phsrc=jpw322&_phstart=successSource
I believe he came to the Uk and may have changed his name to John Christian Ey. If so he is my 4 x great grandfather. His birth should be around 1755 according to UK sources.

Any help gratefully appreciated.
Many thanks in advance
Panda
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: jimnix on Friday 21 August 20 10:41 BST (UK)
It is a record of burial for Sophie Henriette Pabst (nee Ey)

Sophie Henriette Pabst
[Sophie Henriette Eÿ]
Death Age: 72
Death Date: 7 Nov 1855
Burial Place: Hannover, Hannover, Deutschland (Germany)
Father: Johann Christian Eÿ
Mother: Johanne Christiane Friederike Eÿ

EDIT: City or District:   Zellerfeld
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 10:45 BST (UK)
Thanks Jimnix for looking this record up for me. I was hoping it would be a baptism for him From around 1755. If you have any spare time and could see if anything fits that time period that would be great.
Thanks
 Panda
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: jimnix on Friday 21 August 20 10:47 BST (UK)
Did he marry in Germany Panda? What was his wife’s name?
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 10:54 BST (UK)
As far as I know he married Jane Harrison on 6/12/1801 in London at St Marylebone. He used the name John Christian and the records for the banns can be viewed on ancestry. His daughter Ann my 3x great grandmother birth record lists her mother as being born in Germany that is why I am trying to locate the family there as I draw a blank in Uk.
Regards panda
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: jimnix on Friday 21 August 20 11:00 BST (UK)
Sorry, my search hasn’t turned up much but there is a baptism for Johann Christian Ew, baptised 7 May 1751 in Heidelberg, son of Isaac Ew and Christina Sophia Ew.

I’ve checked the image and the surname is definitely “Ew”, not sure if it could be a variant or not.

Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 11:03 BST (UK)
Thanks for your help Jimnix I’ll keep hunting to see if I can find anything else to help.
Regards
Panda
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 11:09 BST (UK)
The record for Ann’s baptism stated that Jane was 29 in 1806 from Hanover in Germany and the occupation of John Ey was Tailor. This fits in with his occupation on the census records.
Regards panda
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: jimnix on Friday 21 August 20 11:23 BST (UK)
Have you followed their children through the censuses in case they have cousins or aunts/uncles living nearby or in the same household?
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: Karen McDonald on Friday 21 August 20 11:27 BST (UK)
There is obviously a strong link to the Upper Harz region for this family name.
Clausthal-Zellerfeld is a pretty but tiddly little place (Sophie's death was recorded there). I've been there loads of times.

I found this website:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ey_(Oberharzer_Familie)

Unfortunately, the names do not go back as far as 1755, but the fact that there was a well-known Johann Christian Friedrich would hint at a family connection.

The roots of the Ey family from Clausthal can be traced back for about two centuries in the Upper Harz region. The family has been associated, in particular since the German Enlightenment and Romantic period from the 19th century onwards, with regional writers and their collections of fairy tales, sagas and prosaic stories in the dialect of the miners from the Upper Harz region as well as with associated publishing houses and bookshops up to the more recent history of the Lower Saxony state capital Hanover.

The oldest ancestor to date is said to be Johann Christian Friedrich Ey, born in Clausthal at the beginning of the 19th century, baptized as Protestant-Lutheran and married to Sophie Jacobine Hüddersen (* June 25, 1805 in Ührde; † October 5, 1834 ibid.).


Seeing as they were well-known, it might well be possible to find out more about the family further back in time.

Best regards,
Karen
...who lives just under an hour away from the Upper Harz region.  :)

Edit: It's worth being a wee bit careful with "Hannover". A huge chunk of Germany used to come under that heading. The little town of Clausthal-Zellerfeld is a hundred km as the crow flies from the city of Hannover. Always best to try and determine which district is being referred to.  :)
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 12:56 BST (UK)
Thank you Karen for the interesting link. I shall look into this information further.
Jimnix I am going to go back over the brothers and sisters this afternoon while it’s raining

Thanks for all the great input
Panda
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Friday 21 August 20 15:13 BST (UK)
Hi Panda,

Just on the off-chance, I had a look in a german Datebase, where researchers can upload their GEDCOMs .....
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/

For 'Eÿ' in Hannover, it turns up several entries      ( '*' = year of birth, '+' = year of death )

Christian Ludwig             Ey    * 1849 Clausthal, Harz + 1926 Hannover
Elisabeth Meta Margarethe   Ey    * 1885 Hannover + 1937 Deutsch-Krone, Grenzmark   
Ludwig                             Ey    * 1887 Hannover + 1968 Hannover    

And, for 'Eÿ', 'Johann' (without place name), it turns up a lot more.
many of them from Clausthal, Zellerfeld, Goslar, and other 'Harz' locations.
These may be from the family mentioned in Karen's wiki-link.

Unfortunately, none of them correspond directly with the data you've got so far, so I am only posting this here as a possibilty for later:
Most of the contributors provide contact addresses, so if you do find more 'Eÿ' names in your research, and you are able to find a match with any these entries, then you can get in touch with the contributor to find out more.

Good luck,
Bob

p.s.
I don't know if GEDBAS adjusts the language, according to the "calling country",
but if comes up in german ....
In the menu-box on the left hand side ("Funktionen"), the last item is "Sprache wählen" (choose language) und you can change it to englisch
p.p.s
GEDBAS doesn't seem to accept 'Eÿ' but 'Ey' works just as well :)
Title: Re: Could someone look this German record up for me please
Post by: panda40 on Friday 21 August 20 15:23 BST (UK)
Thanks Bob for the information
Regards panda