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Title: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Friday 21 August 20 16:04 BST (UK)
Hi   can anyone help me find a death of a Mary Ann Redfearn  DoB 1864
She Married Charles Abraham Evans 1882 in Derby and they had three children
I beleive she died 1889/90
I am trying to clarify something in the family tree but cannot do so until I find the evidence of her death   so far cannot find it on Ancestry

Kind Regards

George
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 21 August 20 18:47 BST (UK)
Have you gone forward onto1891 census to check if her husband is shown as widow

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: Comberton on Friday 21 August 20 19:03 BST (UK)
Is this Mary Ann alive in 1891 or a different family?

1891 census
Charles A Evans 1861 Herefordshire bricklayer's labourer
Mary A Evans 1864 Derbyshire
Charles D Evans 1883 Derbyshire
Abraham Evans 1887 Derbyshire
Louisa Evans 1889 Derbyshire
All children's mmn is Redfearn
2739/12/19
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 August 20 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi

You may want to consider changing your subject header to Evans and the first line of your opening post that is the name any death will be registered under - not Redfearn
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 21 August 20 19:14 BST (UK)
yes it is her, I believe, also found same siblings  as listed by Comberton

1882  Charles David born
1887 Abraham
1889 Louisa

All born Derby with MMN Redfearn

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 21 August 20 19:17 BST (UK)
Also 2 more children born - Samuel 1893 died 1894 & John 1895

No death for Mary Ann up to 1901

The 1882 marriage shows him as Abraham Charles Evans
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 08:41 BST (UK)
Morning 

 Thank you all for your replies  I will try and put this in to some clarification as I could be misleading you
I was looking for Mary Diana Johnson originally so I will put down what I have and maybe we can shed some light on the subject.
Louisa Evans DoB 1845 Hereford   married Charles Tinkling 1860 they had four Children
Charles Abraham 1860
Charles    1863
Aretha matilda 1864
Mary Diana  1866
1867  Charles Tinkling Died
1871 census  shows children in Hereford Workhouse  not sure where Louisa is at this time
1881   Louisa now in Derby with Charles Abraham and calling herself Johnson ?? A widow
I could not find any marriage to a Charles Johnson
 Charles Abraham now reverts to his mothers maiden name of Evans ??marriage certificate to Mary Ann Redfearn Marriage 1882 not sure why
1891 census the family is Evans  at sometime Mary Ann passes away and Charles Abraham remarries Emma Salt a widow but gives his surname as Johnson
Here is the stumbling block where is Mary Diana Johnson in 1891
She married Thomas Orgill 1886 in Derby and he died 1888
Mary Diana then appears to marry Theodore Hitchcock 1902 both passed away 1946
I thought that if Mary Ann evans had passed away before 1890  was it Mary Diana that was living with her brother in 1891 census 
Hope this all make sense  My Grandmother Lucy Johnson (Evans) that she had a surname change when she was young
I would be most grateful if someone could tell me I have the right people and I have not been chasing the wrong family

Thank you for your time

George
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 09:16 BST (UK)
What about this census
1901 RG13/3221 FOLIO 60 PAGE 28

Theodore  Hitchcock   39 born Derbyshire
Mary 28 Hereford
James C Rowsley 15
Annie  Rowsley 12
Carol Derby 6
Helen 4 Derby  registered 1897 Derby MMN Johnson
Theodore 9 months Derby registered 1900 Derby MMN Johnson

Louisa Maud
 
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 09:27 BST (UK)
Thank you I think you have found the missing link  ont know why it never showed on my site

thank you
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 09:34 BST (UK)
1891 RG12/2775 F 2775 P 21

Theodore Hitchcock aged 29
Rose 29
Mary Matilda 7 Reg
James Charles 5
Annie Edith 3
Elizabeth Ethel 1

All born Derbyshire, all siblings MMN Hardy

Theodore  Hitchcock
married
Rose Hardy
1882 Derby

Rose Hitchcock possible death 1896 geed 34 Derby

So he was a widower with children when he married Mary ,

I hope I am also on the right lines

Louisa Maud
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 09:43 BST (UK)
Was the surname Parker within this family? (Mary Diana Parker)

Marriage of Theodore to Rose is shown as
"Christmas Day",
never seen it actually written in words before on a marriage certificate

LM

Added
Theodore and Mary Diana Hitchcock death , he on 20th Dec and Mary on 21st December 1946
























Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 10:13 BST (UK)
I  questioned this with someones tree  and they copied it from someone elses tree ,    it shows her in a lunatic asylum in Woking so that would not be correct I dont think

thank you
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 10:16 BST (UK)
Do you mean Parker surname?

LM
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 10:17 BST (UK)
they had it down as Mary Diana Johnson nee Parker

I will check again
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 10:19 BST (UK)
Yes, that is right but don't take it on-board if it isn't your family tree, it is always best to double check even if it is information we have given you

LM
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 10:21 BST (UK)
I ignored it as dates o not match I am sure you are right with 1901 census

thank you
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 10:31 BST (UK)
Have you gone forward to 1911

LM
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: Comberton on Saturday 22 August 20 10:48 BST (UK)
I can't find a marriage in 1902 to Theodore Hitchcock but I did find
1896
Derby Register Office
Theodore Hitchcock
Mary Parker
The 1886 marriage to Thomas Orgill was at the Registry Office also.
also
18-2-1899
Derby
Charles Abraham Johnson 39 father Charles Johnson
Emma Salt 41 father William Cox
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 10:56 BST (UK)
OOOH, that is interesting, is that where the Parker surname comes from
I am definitely confused.com !!

LM
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 August 20 11:01 BST (UK)
Post on Mary Diana
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=835297.0
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: louisa maud on Saturday 22 August 20 11:05 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie, missed that one, seems we are duplicating some of this info

LLM
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 August 20 11:24 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie, missed that one, seems we are duplicating some of this info
LLM

I was expecting that update that was posted on this thread this morning about her to be on that thread as per PM's received yesterday
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 11:58 BST (UK)
Apologies Rosie    placed it here this morning as you suggested    thank you all

George
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 August 20 12:55 BST (UK)
But you put it on the wrong post  ;D
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Saturday 22 August 20 13:47 BST (UK)
a senior moment Rosie sorry   at least we have narrowed the feild down thanks to you people
Title: Re: Mary Ann Redfearn
Post by: broaway on Sunday 23 August 20 13:32 BST (UK)
Thank you all for all the imput I cannot thank you enough

Regards

George