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Title: Tracing family in England
Post by: Chellebelle on Saturday 22 August 20 08:18 BST (UK)
Hi there, I'm hoping to find some information on my family from England. My Great Grandfather James Churton was born on 18/07/1848 in Middlesex and his wife  Sarah Jane Churton nee Rowe born in 1856. They were married in All Saints Church 31/03/1877. In 1881 they were living in 90-91 Oxford Street London (census).  I can't find anything else until they appear in New Zealand around 1897. 
I would love to find out anything more on Sarah. Her father's name was James.
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 August 20 10:21 BST (UK)
Hi there

This could be Sarah in 1871

James Rowe 48
Mary A 30
James P 22
Sarah J 15
Emily 2
Walter R 7
William 5

Have you got her fathers occupation from the marriage please?

This James was a tradesman born Suffolk.

Would guess Mary A is a second wife as she is too young to have been the mother of a 22 year old son.
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 August 20 10:24 BST (UK)
Mary Ann Sheppard married James Rowe in 1860 so his first wife must have been the mother of your Sarah.

Having said that James is noted as a bachelor not a widower so might be leading you astray there.
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 August 20 10:28 BST (UK)
Birth for Sarah Jane Rowe in 1856 St Giles has mothers maiden name of Smith.
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 August 20 10:31 BST (UK)
1861

James Rowe 37 widower licensed victualler born Suffolk
James P 12 son
Sarah 5 daughter
Fanny 28 sister housekeeper born Suffolk

This might be son James if the P was a C

James Charles Rowe birth 1848 St Pancras mothers name Smith

1851

James Rowe 29
Sarah 32
James 2

So Sarah could be the mother of your Sarah and then she died and James remarried. 
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 22 August 20 10:33 BST (UK)
Possible 1851 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBJ-78V
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 22 August 20 10:45 BST (UK)

There is a marriage March quarter 1847 St George Hanover Square where James Rowe and Sarah Eliza Smith appear on the same page.

Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 22 August 20 10:54 BST (UK)
Transcription of the marriage - St Paul, Wilton Place, Knightsbridge - James is aged 24 and Sarah Eliza is 28.  No date for the marriage given.

Possible death for Sarah Eliza - June quarter 1861 - Bethnal Green - Sarah Eliza Rowe aged 46.
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 22 August 20 10:58 BST (UK)
Here's the church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s_Church,_Knightsbridge

Only a few years old when they got married there
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 22 August 20 11:20 BST (UK)
Second wife could be Mary Ann Stevens. James and Mary Ann on same page Q4 1861 Bethnal green.
There's a Walter R Rowe and a William Rowe with mmn Stevens
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: LizzieL on Saturday 22 August 20 11:25 BST (UK)
married 7 Nov 1861, St John Bethnal green. his father also called James occ gardener.
her father William, occ undertaker. A  William Stevens was witness, could be her father. She is spinster of full age
Title: Re: Tracing family in England
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 August 20 16:46 BST (UK)
1861 a J Churton age 12 born London is boarding at St Johns College and Grammar School Hurstpierpoint, Sussex.

1871 he is lodging in London with the Lamb Family.

Gosh Edward/Marian had a large Family 1861 Census!