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Family History Documents and Artefacts => Graveyards and Gravestones => Topic started by: Lisa8thompson on Saturday 05 September 20 14:59 BST (UK)
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I'm wanting to create a find a grave memorial for my potential 4th great grandfather Patrick Forbes but not sure what cemetery it would be?
Old Jesmond or All Saints?
Burial record states New of Jesmond
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZLQ-MQ3
Any suggestions please?
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Hi Lisa,
On the card catalogue this entry is showing from St Andrew's Roman Catholic Church.
There were 3 Jesmond cemeteries - Old Jesmond, All Saints, & St Andrews & Jesmond. I suppose he might be in any of these places.
I think you might need to wait until Newcastle local studies or Tyne and Wear Archives reopens perhaps to look him up to find out what cemetery he may be in. Both these places have the burial registers.
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I checked Find a Grave earlier today and there doesn't seem to be a monument* for him so it looks as if your only source would be Tyne and Wear archives, as RTL has suggested.
I did find a report in one of the online local newspapers (Newcastle Guardian and Tyne Mercury, 08/12/1866) but it just reported the death, not a burial.
*Add - the cemeteries do appear to have the inscriptions for that year.
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Thanks RTL and Gadget.
I thought his may be the case, I didnt realise there were actually 3 cemetery and hope someone would be able to distinguish the 2 I had.
I will have to get a BNA subscription again to check newspapers. It I will have a look thanks.
The only Forbes memorials in jesmond on FAG I can see are in old jesmond and I'm yet to see a family link.
Hopefully the archives will open again soon!
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Lisa, a lot of the burial records for these cemeteries are available to browse if you register with Family Search (free).
Search the catalogue https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog for Newcastle upon Tyne, then click on Cemeteries. You will see that there are a variety of records available, including for All Saints and Jesmond. Click on the links, and if there is a camera icon, click on that and you can browse to your hearts content.
You are in luck. All Saints was at the top of the list, so I had a quick look through what was available, and by chance found your entry. I also found someone distantly related to me, so that was a bonus :)
Section C (Unconsecrated) grave 38
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-P3VC-2PKH?i=606&cat=828595 (towards the bottom of the r-h page)
It was lucky he was in All Saints. I had a look at the Jesmond records and they are a real muddle.
By the way what do you mean by 'potential' 4th great-grandfather?
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Wow thanks JenB.
I didn't k ow you could do that on family search! That's a helpful tool.
I mean potential as I have not 100% confirmed it yet. Need to order certs etc.
As I have the name Patrick Forbes on my 3rd Great Grandparents marriage certificate.
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There are loads of records hidden away on FS. They aren't indexed, so don't come up on a normal name search.
You have to go into the catalogue to find what is available, and be prepared to browse through to find what you want.
If this Patrick is only a possibility, if were you I'd not make that memorial until you are 100% certain ;)
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It certainly looks like him Jennifer. Good find. The newspaper announcement has him as dying at Grenville Terrace on 1st Dec, aged 57.
I didn't know about the hidden gems for Newcastle on FS either.
Gadget
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Yes, I have him at 7 Grenville Street!
I will certainly do a bit more confirming before hand to make sure I get the memorial correct.
Thank you all for your help. Found some great new tips out ;D
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JenB has found the grave for you, she's good :-)
BUT the record you posted
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZLQ-MQ3
tells you a little more if you firkle a bit
When you open that link there is a line with a down arrow that says 'Document information'
Click on the down arrow and it tells you the film number the record came from which is 2046623
Search the catalogue for that film number and you see this:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/783862?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Which tells you that his funeral mass was at St Andrew RC Church in Newcastle.
After the funeral, as JenB has told you, he was buried at All Saints in the non conformist (anyone who wasn't C of E) section.
Its all the little bits that give a fuller picture.
Boo