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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: turramurra on Wednesday 09 September 20 01:43 BST (UK)
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Would anyone have a story about this man please?
He married an Amy Harry and had various children and also other children... ?
He came to Australia and married Emma Louise Brucewater in Melbourne St Matthews Church Broadford 1874
Josiah White's father was Edward and his mother was Lovedey Guy.
Turramurra
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What do you mean by "story"?.
Are you wanting anecdotes......family yarns.....what?
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1841: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYR-1WM
1851: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBP-M23
1861: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7ZF-5RC
1871, Loveday: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFV6-89B
1881, Lovdy: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-KYRX
Deaths:
WHITE, EDWARD 70
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 152
WHITE, LOVEDAY 80
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 148
1822 baptism of son, Edward: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RWS-7R7?i=46&cc=1769414&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQGL2-ZS6M
1825 baptism of a son, William Lewis: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RWS-ZL5?i=61&cc=1769414
1828 baptism of son, John: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6RWS-993?i=72&cc=1769414
Births:
WHITE, THOMAS HENRY mmn GUY
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in HELSTON UNION Volume 09 Page 136
WHITE, JOSIAH mmn GUY
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in HELSTON Volume 09 Page 139
Jamjar
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I needed to say please I would like to have some research history about this man please..
There are some conflicting stories about the number of offspring
Sorry if this first request was confusing
Turramurra
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If he married in Australia, why do you have this on the Cornwall board?
How do you know he’s the same person who married Amy and Emma?
Jamjar
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He married Amy Harry in Cornwall at first,
Cornwall seemed the obvious place to start.
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Do you have the marriage certificate for the marriage of a Josiah to Amy, showing father’s name and occupation.
You think he was 19 when married in 1861 and left Amy and children behind to come to VIC. Or, did he bring a family with him?
Jamjar
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1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFV6-VV4
1881, Amy as widowed: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-KY2M
The family went to the US, 1882, on the Persian Monarch:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-5T9M-BR?i=773&cc=1849782&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQVPN-232C
WHITE, - mmn HARRY
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 266
WHITE, THOMAS HENRY mmn HARRY
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 229
Next door to mother in 1900.
His family, but not him in 1910:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBD-9QB4?i=2&cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMGJQ-8PN
WHITE, ALFRED JOHN HARRY mmn HARRY
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 232
Died 1945: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HVZ2-XKPZ
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5915160/alfred-john-white
WHITE, JOSIAH JAMES mmn HARRY
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 226
1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-KYVD
WHITE, ERNEST mmn HARRY
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 193
Supposedly died Washington, US, but a very confusing listing: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HVQM-WVZM
At Hillsdale Cemetery, Washington: http://www.interment.net/data/us/wa/whatcom/hillsdale-cemetery/index.htm
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6705574/ernest-e-white
WHITE, SAMUEL mmn HARRY
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 220
At Hillsdale Cemetery, Washington.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6705575/samuel-white
Amy married Charles Vogt. They are buried at the same cemetery as Ernest and Samuel.
Marriage: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-894V-24WS?i=30&cc=1534448
1900 census: Ernest living with the Vogt and son Thomas living next door to them:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SW3-X91?i=5&cc=1325221&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMM5M-9N8
1910: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBD-94LX?i=3&cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMGJ3-J6K
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6705567/amy-vogt
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6705568/charles-vogt
Jamjar
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The Age 20 Mar 1890 p7
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197018785?
SHOULD this meet the eye John Thomas or Josiah WHITE, Cornwall, England, glad to hear from them.
J. White, nephew, Glen Iris P.O.
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Aus children:
VIC:
7247/1876 Edward James - died VIC 3687/1910
7032/1877 Emma
NSW:
16389/1880 Frederick - married NSW 6150/1902 HORNE Alicia - died VIC 8189/1952
Buried: Footscray Cemetery
19459/1885 Loveday A - married NSW 9414/1905 MACLEAN Walter
21458/1888 Josiah - married VIC 6888/1916 TRUEMAN Elsie - died VIC 2796/1968
Buried Altona Memorial Park
26487/1890 John H
11112/1893 Alice
23813/1896 Henry C - died VIC 25781/1967 Henry Claude
14176/1899 William R - Married VIC 6829/1922 RUSSELL Ruby - died VIC 10420/1942 William James
Buried: Footscray Cemetery
NSW death: 11328/1891 William
Jamjar
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Bits ‘n’ Pieces from CORNWALL OLD PARISH RECORDS
Baptism of Josiah WHITE (non-conformist baptism)
26 Feb 1846 St Keverne Cornwall (Porthallow)
Father; Edward (joiner)
Mother; Loveday
Marriage of Josiah WHITE and Amy HARRY
1 Dec 1865 Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Helston
Groom: Josiah, 19, bachelor, carpenter, Residence Porthallow St Keverne
Grooms father: Edward WHITE (carpenter) decd.
Bride: Amy HARRY, 24, spinster, Residence Roaring Stile ST Keverne
Brides father: John HARRY (carpenter) decd.
Both groom and bride signed their names
Witnesses: Richard NICHOLLS, Ann HARRY
Baptism of Thomas Henry WHITE (non-conformist baptism)
31 March 1867 St Keverne Cornwall (Porthallow)
Father: Josiah (carpenter)
Mother: Amy
Baptism of Alfred John Harry WHITE
7 March 1869 St Keverne Cornwall
Father: Josiah (carpenter)
Mother: Amy
Residence Porthallow
Have not found baptism for other sons – Ernest, Samuel or Josiah junior. However if this is the same Josiah that was in Australia in 1874, the last 2 sons (at least) cannot be his children, and they may have been baptised under another surname, or not baptised.
Children of Edward and Loveday WHITE baptised in St Keverne, Cornwall
1822 Edward WHITE, 1825 William Skewes WHITE, 1828 John WHITE, 1839 Thomas Henry WHITE, 1846 Josiah WHITE
Marriage of Edward WHITE and Loveday GUY
21 Aug 1821 Manaccan
Groom from St Keverne
Bride from this parish
Witnesses: John GUY and John TRESIDDER
Baptism of Loveday Samble GUY
20 Nov 1803 Manaccan, Cornwall
Father: John
Mother: Loveday
Marriage of John GUY and Loveday SAMBLE
29 Oct 1797 Manaccan, Cornwall
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A bit more on the parents of Josiah WHITE
Burial for Loveday WHITE
28 May 1884, St Keverne
Age 80
Residence Porthallow
Burial for Edward WHITE
29 May 1861, St Keverne
Age 70
Residence Porthallow
Baptism for Edward WHITE
21 Nov 1790 St Keverne
Father: John
Mother Margery
Marriage for John WHITE and Margery
4 June 1783 Cury, Cornwall
Groom: John White (Carpenter)
Groom’s residence: St Keverne
Bride: Margery SKEWES (Spinster of this parish - Cury)
Groom signed with his mark, bride signed with her name.
Witnesses: John SKEWES & William PEARCE
Banns called 2nd, 16th, 30th March
Children of John WHITE and Margery baptised St Keverne
1784 John, 1786 William, 1788 Margery, 1790 Edward, 1795 Martha, 1796 Mary, 1798 Richard, 1800 Richard
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Thank you all for extensive help about Josiah White.
Last reply was most interesting...
It all helps make the story of Josiah's life,
Turramurra