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I have a Marriage for Thomas Patrick Keogh and Janet Mary Elizabeth Buchanan in 1889 at St Marys Church Warwick Qld and need help with handwriting
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I can not attach the image of the marriage
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Hi there,
Is it likely to be all in the one handwriting .... the clergyman's handwriting. ?
Could you consider taking a snip of the top section, where the headings are When and where married, across to Birthplace and attaching that .... you need to change your file name each time :) you try attaching.
JM
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I am looking at a Qld marriage cert, issued several decades ago, for a marriage in 1887. Is yours a digitised image or the older style document?
JM
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It is a image from Qld BDM and has 4 marriages on the image and is PDF file
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Right, so using your snip tool take a snip of a section of the marriage where you need help deciphering the handwriting... take it after you have zoomed into your pdf. call it snip 1 of 10 Sept nd save it as a jpeg. AND then take another snip of the next section where you need deciphering help. Call that one, snip 2 of 10 Sept.
Start a new reply on this thread and attach both those snips.
That way any of the regulars on this board can decide if they can read the handwriting and help you further
JM
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Hello margill68,
If you are having problems attaching an image it will come up with an error message, eg image to large (can be no larger that 900kb) and it has to have a unique filename, if someone has called an image "scan1" you may need to re-name you filename to something different.
Regards
Sarah
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Hello again
I have not been able to get the PDF over to JPEG probably my computer. I have another set of eyes look at it and a bit of internet research and this is what we have come up with.
Marriage 21 Sept 1889
St Mary's Church Warwick Queensland
Religion Church of Rome
Witness George Keogh and Elizabeth Buchanan
THOMAS PATRICK kEOGH
born Maryland New England NSW
age 22
Residence Lucky Valley Occ Laborer
Father John Thomas KEOGH Occ Farmer
Mother Ann MURPHY
JANET MARY ELIZABETH BUCHANAN
age 21
Born Lucky Valley Merrivale Queensland (could be County Merivale)Occ Stayed with her parents
Residence Canning Downs South
Father John Buchanan Occ Boundary Rider
Mother Sarah Hamilton?
Registered 9 Oct 1889
If anyone has any further information re parent I would very much appreciate it
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Maryland, as up in the NSW district around Tenterfield. :) county would be Buller.
JM
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Maryland .... postcode will be a Qld one as mail comes from Warwick... plus more ... My reliable older living rellies also tell me it is north of Stanthorpe and less than 5 miles from Qld border, but it's in NSW ....
JM
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Re Thomas' parents...
I have checked my papercopy of the 1902 NSW electoral roll for RICHMOND, polling at Maryland.... none with the surname KEOGH, none with the surname MURPHY.
JM
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Deaths:
Janet Mary Elizabeth Keogh
Event date: 08/07/1951
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 12/01/1869
Registration details: 1951/C/4189
Mother: Sarah Buchanan
Father/parent: John Buchanan
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182194814/janet-keogh
Is this him with father as James?:
Thomas Patrick Keogh
Event date: 21/08/1933
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1869
Registration details: 1933/C/3750
Mother: Anne Keogh
Father/parent: James Thomas Keogh
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182194820/thomas-keogh
According to this his father was James: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~gordon/gordonfam/pafg1142.htm#35979
Death by accident of Mary Keogh, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3724054
Father’s death:
James Keogh
Event date: 12/07/1910
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1910/C/4085
Mother: -
Father/parent: James Keogh
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184816563/james-keogh
The website provided shows this as Ann’s death, but it doesn’t match burial year:
Anne Keogh
Event date: 17/11/1872
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1872/C/1443
Mother: Mary Hennessey
Father/parent: Pat. Michael Murphy
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184816562/ann-keogh
Cosy, James’ 2nd wife is buried with them:
Julia Keogh
Event date: 15/03/1913
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1913/C/4831
Mother: Margaret Hanley
Father/parent: John Cross
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184816564/julia-keogh
Also daughter of James and Ann:
Mary Ann Keogh
Event date: 15/05/1877
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1877/C/2456
Mother: Ann Murphy
Father/parent: James Keogh
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184816559/mary-keogh
Also, daughter of James and Ann:
Teresa Keogh
Event date: 09/09/1873
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1873/C/1291
Mother: Ann Murphy
Father/parent: James Keogh
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184816560/theresa-keogh
Also, son of James and Julia:
Patrick Keogh
Event date: 05/05/1880
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1880/C/2117
Mother: Julia Cross
Father/parent: James Keogh
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/184816565/patrick-keogh
Brothers’ marriages/deaths:
Patrick Keogh
Event date: 07/02/1873
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1873/C/1276
Mother: Anne Murphy
Father/parent: James Keogh
James Keogh
Event date: 04/12/1894
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1894/C/1078
Spouse: Ellen Purcell
James Keogh
Event date: 10/02/1921
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1921/C/676
Mother: Ann Murphy
Father/parent: James Keogh
Funeral notice, 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article151632227
Maryborough Cemetery - Monumental F Plot 1287
KEOGH JAMES 11-2-1921
KEOGH UNNAMED 24-9-1928
KEOGH ELLEN 15-2-1958
Jamjar
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NSW Marriage: 3033/1864 BUCHANAN John to HAMILTON Sarah RICHMOND RIVER
QLD Deaths:
John Buchanan
Event date: 05/06/1905
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1905/C/1006
Mother: Genett Buchanan
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Obit: 3rd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article174211006
Sarah Mary Buchanan
Event date: 11/03/1920
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1837
Registration details: 1920/C/1627
Mother: Ann Hamilton
Father/parent: Richard Hamilton
Sarah: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181952887/sarah-buchanan
John: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181952884/john-buchanan
QLD Births:
Ellen Mary Buchanan
Event date: 31/10/1864
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1864/C/1585
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Marriage:
Ellen Mary Josephine Buchanan
Event date: 19/09/1889
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1889/C/2213
Spouse: George Aloysius Keogh
Deaths:
Ellen Mary Keogh
Event date: 08/09/1949
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1949/C/5300
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182194810/ellenor-keogh
George Aloysius Keogh
Event date: 02/08/1935
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1935/C/3859
Mother: Anne Doulton
Father/parent: James
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182194811/george_francis-keogh
John Joseph Buchanan
Event date: 14/11/1866
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1866/C/2358
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Unnamed (F) Buchannan
Event date: 11/01/1869
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1869/C/3036
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchannan
James Henry Buchanan
Event date: 06/11/1870
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1870/C/3500
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Elizabeth Buchanan
Event date: 26/06/1872
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1872/C/3707
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Richard William Buchanan
Event date: 24/08/1874
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1874/C/4704
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
George Hamilton Buchanan
Event date: 11/09/1876
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1876/C/1080
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Charlotte Ann Buchanan
Event date: 21/03/1879
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1879/C/1190
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Rosanna Maria Buchanan
Event date: 26/05/1882
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1882/C/1681
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Deaths:
Elizabeth Ann Buchanan
Event date: 12/06/1881
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1881/C/2584
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Edward Peter Buchanan
Event date: 23/03/1890
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1890/C/1266
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
In Memoriam, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article76983809
Other daughters mentioned in father’s obit:
Elizabeth Catherine Mary Buchanan
Event date: 05/06/1897
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1897/C/148
Spouse: John Joseph Thornton
Death:
Elizabeth Thornton
Event date: 13/05/1943
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1943/C/2935
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Elizabeth: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320739/elizabeth-thornton
John: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320751/john-joseph-thornton
Rose Maria Buchanan
Event date: 27/09/1904
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1904/C/2368
Spouse: Walter Henry Doran
Deaths:
Rosanna Maria Doran
Event date: 14/06/1961
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1961/B/45048
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Child:
Launa Kevin Parker
Event date: 03/11/1974
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1974/B/55963
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Buried:
Lutwyche Cemetery MONUMENTAL-6-9-29
DORAN Rose Maria 79 16-6-1961
PARKER Launa Kevin 62 6-11-1974
Jamjar
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May be Sarah’s folks entering AUS: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYNN-M8?cc=1542665&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AFL2S-X22
NSW Birth:
555/1840 V1840555 24A HAMILTON Amelia C parents RICHARD and ANN
I can’t see a birth for Sarah, though.
Jamjar
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Thank You Jamjar
It will take me some time to go through it. I am relieved that our translation of the MC was correct.
I really Appreciate your time
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You are most welcome, I have enjoyed the search. ;D
There is more you can do filling in the children for all those who married.
Jamjar
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Here are a few details of interment of some people mentioned. They may provide extra information such as age at death if not already known.
KEOGH, Theresa , d. 16.06.1872, aged 6 yrs, , MI, Stanthorpe
KEOGH, Mary , d. 16.05.1877, 4 yrs 5m, , MI, Stanthorpe Noted on father’s record.
KEOGH, Ann , d. 18.05.1872, Aged 42 yrs, , MI, Stanthorpe
KEOGH, James , d. 12.07.1910, aged 80 yrs , with wife Ann; chn. Theresa; Mary & Patrick & Julia KEOGH., MI, Stanthorpe
KEOGH, Julia , d. 15.03.1913, aged 68 yrs , our mother., MI, Stanthorpe
KEOGH, Patrick , d. 05.05.1880, aged 1 yr 8m, , MI, Stanthorpe
KEOGH, John Joseph , d. 19.02.1958, aged 77 yrs , my husb. & our father. With wife Margaret KEOGH., MI, Warwick. {He was a son of Julia (nee CROSS) and James KEOGH}
There are some others KEOGHs listed who may turn out to be of your family of a later generation.
BUCHANAN, John , d. 05.06.1905, aged 82 yrs , h/o Sarah BUCHANAN., MI, Warwick
Other BUCHANANs are listed too, but your names of interest not jumping out.
Sue
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Ellen Mary Buchanan
Event date: 31/10/1864
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1864/C/1585
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Marriage:
Ellen Mary Josephine Buchanan
Event date: 19/09/1889
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1889/C/2213
Spouse: George Aloysius Keogh
Deaths:
Ellen Mary Keogh
Event date: 08/09/1949
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1949/C/5300
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182194810/ellenor-keogh
George Aloysius Keogh
Event date: 02/08/1935
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1935/C/3859
Mother: Anne Doulton
Father/parent: James
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182194811/george_francis-keogh
Children:
George Francis Keogh
Event date: 20/09/1949
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1949/C/3506
Mother: Ellen Buchanan
Father/parent: George Francis
Death and funeral notices, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148049096
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146243692/george-francis-keogh
John Edward Keogh
Event date: 10/03/1897
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1897/C/2808
Mother: Ellen Mary Buchanan
Father/parent: George Keogh
John Edward Keogh
Event date: 02/02/1929
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1929/C/857
Spouse: Evelyn May Mulcahy
John Edward Keogh
Event date: 18/06/1976
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1976/C/3717
Mother: Ellen Mary Buchanan
Father/parent: George Keogh
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49857098/john-edward-keogh
Wife:
Evelyn May Mulcahy Keogh
BIRTH: 5 Oct 1908
Queensland, Australia
DEATH: 27 Oct 1995 (aged 87)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/183788653/evelyn-may-keogh
James Thomas Keogh
Event date: 19/11/1903
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1904/C/2612
Mother: Ellen Buchanan
Father/parent: George Keogh
James Thomas Keogh
Event date: 06/11/1929
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1929/C/3357
Spouse: Alma Margaret Herbener
James Thomas Keogh
Event date: 14/06/1982
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1904
Registration details: 1982/53940
Mother: Ellen Buchanan
Father/parent: George Francis Keogh
KEOGH James Thomas Funeral notice 15JUN1982 Funeral formerly of Tinana, Maryborough and Bauple Fraser Coast Chronicle (Hervey Bay) 15JUN1982
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198018731/james-thomas-keogh
Wife:
Alma Margaret Keogh
Event date: 17/03/1990
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1910
Registration details: 1990/52227
Mother: Sarah Jane Stratford
Father/parent: Jacob Herbener
KEOGH Alma Margaret Funeral notice 17MAR1990 Death 80 at Dalby Hospital, late of Dalby The Chronicle (Toowoomba) 19MAR1990
Jamjar
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Rosanna Maria Buchanan
Event date: 26/05/1882
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1882/C/1681
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Rose Maria Buchanan
Event date: 27/09/1904
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1904/C/2368
Spouse: Walter Henry Doran
Rosanna Maria Doran
Event date: 14/06/1961
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1961/B/45048
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Lutwyche Cemetery MONUMENTAL-6-9-29
DORAN Rose Maria 79 16-6-1961
PARKER Launa Kevin 62 6-11-1974
Children:
Valentine May Doran
Event date: 24/02/1905
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1905/C/5131
Mother: Rosalind Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Valentine May Doran
Event date: 22/12/1925
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1925/B/38815
Spouse: John Laurence Howden
Valentine May Howden
Event date: 08/07/1976
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1976/B/70251
Mother: Rosalind Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Lutwyche Cemetery - MONUMENTAL-4-60-21
HOWDEN John Laurence 54 19-11-1959
HOWDEN John Valentine 15 31-07-1940
*Valentine May not showing
Walter John Doran
Event date: 05/05/1906
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1906/C/2779
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
NSW Death: 48855/1972 DORAN Walter John parents WALTER HENRY and RONE COFFS HARBOUR
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171089323/walter-john-doran
Launa Kevin Doran
Event date: 01/10/1912
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1912/C/15233
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Launa Kevin Doran
Event date: 30/08/1935
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1935/B/22482
Spouse: Charles Hamilton Parker
Launa Kevin Parker
Event date: 03/11/1974
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1974/B/55963
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Lutwyche Cemetery MONUMENTAL-6-9-29
PARKER Launa Kevin 62 6-11-1974
DORAN Rose Maria 79 16-6-1961
Tasman Doran
Event date: 01/10/1912
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1912/C/15234
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Tasman Doran
Event date: 12/10/1912
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1912/C/5144
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Daphne Doran
Event date: 23/04/1915
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1915/B/40016
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Daphne Doran
Event date: 25/08/1934
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1934/B/19130
Spouse: Bernard Charles Roughan
Nudgee Cemetery LA-2076
ROUGHAN Bernard Charles 31-3-1909 30-5-2001 1-6-2001
ROUGHAN Mark Christopher 14-6-1951 28-11-006 8-12-2006
Nudgee Cemetery LA-2456
ROUGHAN Daphne 23-4-1915 4-3-2008 11-3-2008
Leslie Buchanan Doran
Event date: 16/11/1918
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1918/B/53980
Mother: Rose Maria Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Leslie Buchanan Doran
Event date: 27/07/1942
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1942/B/50538
Spouse: Mabel Elizabeth Hansen
Leslie Buchanan Doran
Event date: 06/06/1985
Event type: Death registration
Date of birth: 1920
Registration details: 1985/4317
Mother: Rose Buchanan
Father/parent: Walter Henry Doran
Pinnaroo Lawn Cemetery - 9C-212
DORAN Leslie Buchanan 65 7-6-1985
SNIPE Carol Anne 46 12-4-1989
Lutwyche Cemetery
DORAN Mabel Elizabeth 55 17-1-1975
DORAN Roslyn Elizabeth 4 19-6-1957
Jamjar
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Elizabeth Catherine Mary Buchanan
Event date: 05/06/1897
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1897/C/148
Spouse: John Joseph Thornton
Death:
Elizabeth Thornton
Event date: 13/05/1943
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1943/C/2935
Mother: Sarah Hamilton
Father/parent: John Buchanan
Elizabeth: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320739/elizabeth-thornton
John: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320751/john-joseph-thornton
Children:
Mary Elizabeth Thornton
Event date: 12/10/1897
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1897/C/947
Mother: Elizabeth Buchanan
Father/parent: John Thornton
Mary Elizabeth Thornton
Event date: 01/10/1923
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1923/C/3523
Spouse: Francis Joseph O'Neill
Mary Elizabeth O'Neill
Event date: 17/08/1970
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1970/C/5819
Mother: Elizabeth Buchanan
Father/parent: John Thornton
Janet Thornton
Event date: 28/08/1899
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1899/C/851
Mother: Elizabeth Kathleen Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
Winifred Thornton
Event date: 31/08/1901
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1901/C/813
Mother: Elizabeth Kathleen Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
Phylomene Ellenor Thornton
Event date: 16/07/1903
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1903/C/10479
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
Phylomine Ellenor Thornton
Event date: 01/07/1917
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1917/C/3624
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320764/philomina-thornton
Eleanor Irene Thornton
Event date: 02/12/1906
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1907/C/11589
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
Eleanor Irene Thornton
Event date: 11/12/1939
Event type: Marriage registration
Registration details: 1939/C/5350
Spouse: Archibald John Riddle
RIDDLE Archibald John Death notice 17MAR1993 Death late of Mitchelton Courier Mail (Brisbane) 18MAR1993
RIDDLE Eleanor Irene Probate notice 11APR1997 Death late of Herston Courier Mail (Brisbane) 7MAY1997
Pinnaroo Lawn Cemetery - 14B-265
RIDDLE Archibald John 83 Years 19-3-1993
RIDDLE Eleanor Irene 87 24-4-1997
RIDDLE John Archibald 74 22-4-1942 22-12-2016 7-7-2017
James John Thornton
Event date: 30/03/1910
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1910/C/12949
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
John James Thornton
Event date: 09/06/1932
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1932/C/2214
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320746/james_john-thornton
Daniel Thornton
Event date: 15/06/1914
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1914/C/15782
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
Daniel Thornton
Event date: 16/06/1914
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1914/C/4859
Mother: Elizabeth Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320734/daniel-thornton
George Thornton
Event date: 15/06/1914
Event type: Birth registration
Registration details: 1914/C/15783
Mother: Elizabeth Catherine Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
George Thornton
Event date: 23/06/1914
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1914/C/4860
Mother: Elizabeth Buchanan
Father/parent: John Joseph Thornton
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/182320743/george-thornton
Jamjar