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Title: Death / obituary notice
Post by: snowolf on Friday 11 September 20 15:00 BST (UK)
Hello ,
Thankyou for all the help recently ,
However i have 1 more person to find .
  Her name is   Alice Jane Lewis... (nee Durward)...she was married & widowed in Canada, then visited her relations in Sydney a few times ,,,but think she eventually moved to there .
I can't remember how but i've come across an Alice Jane Lewis , Death in New South Wales..1977,
Can someone please please ,be able to look up death notice / obituary notice for her ....then i could rule her one way or another .
Thankyou to all you good hunters
Snowolf :D
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 11 September 20 15:23 BST (UK)
Her marriage in Canada to help with the search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDZP-R9X

Her husband's death, 1925

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL2W-556
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Kloumann on Friday 11 September 20 15:59 BST (UK)
William Durward married Jane E Smith, 1885, Arbuthnott.

The death of an Alice Jane Lewis in 1977, NSW, lists her parents as William & Jane.

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search/result?4

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174304973/alice-jane-lewis
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: snowolf on Friday 11 September 20 16:12 BST (UK)
Hello ,
THankyou soooo much Kloumann for that .....yes this is the correct Alice .
Snowolf ;D
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 11 September 20 22:36 BST (UK)
21896/1976 LEWIS Geoffrey DIED PADDINGTON 062

13961/1977 LEWIS Alice Jane parents WILLIAM and JANE

Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park

Geoffrey Lewis 30-8-1976 11-1-1977 Ashes Rose Gardens, Garden L2, Position 0

Alice Jane Lewis 17-6-1977 23-2-1978 Ashes Rose Gardens, Garden L2, Position 0

I see no death notices for either of them, on Ryerson Index.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Kloumann on Saturday 12 September 20 10:31 BST (UK)
This has cast a bit of doubt on whether it is the correct Alice Jane.

Who is Geoffrey Lewis buried in the same plot?
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: snowolf on Saturday 12 September 20 15:19 BST (UK)
hi,.....
yes! Alice Jane's parents were certainly "William & Jane",
 And she married in Canada ,...widowed in 1925, Canada....the guy she married was Richard Ryder lewis ,
I have no clue who Geoffrey Lewis .....unless he was her son , (although i had'nt come across any children for Alice & Richard ). ???
 Snowolf
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Kloumann on Saturday 12 September 20 18:23 BST (UK)
Richard was born in Montgomeryshire, Wales, 1862. He was 57 when they married. Cannot find any Welsh relatives named Geoffrey but he had other siblings who could have moved to Oz
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: cupoflife on Saturday 12 September 20 22:37 BST (UK)
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=9245040&S=31&N=43&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=9245040&T=P&S=31

Incoming passenger list to Fremantle "Asturias" arrived 28 February 1949
(page 31 of 43)
LEWIS, Mrs Alice age 38      Sylvia Vale Stud, Binda, via Crookwell
LEWIS, Mstr G******* J**** age 6


Editing to strike through: ages don’t match, so a different LEWIS mother and son
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: majm on Saturday 12 September 20 22:55 BST (UK)


21896/1976 LEWIS Geoffrey DIED PADDINGTON 062



13961/1977 LEWIS Alice Jane parents WILLIAM and JANE

Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park

Geoffrey Lewis 30-8-1976 11-1-1977 Ashes Rose Gardens, Garden L2, Position 0

Alice Jane Lewis 17-6-1977 23-2-1978 Ashes Rose Gardens, Garden L2, Position 0

I see no death notices for either of them, on Ryerson Index.

Jamjar

The 062 is the recorded age at death and the index summary that Jamjar has typed up is the usual way NSW BDMs index is released when there's no info on the deceased's parents provided by the informant. 

So 1976 minus 62 gives that  Geoffrey as born in 1913-1915.   So he would not be the child aged 6 on the Feb 1949 passenger list.  That child, born 1942-1944 may well be living, and if in Australia, then the expectation for personal privacy prevails to protect the living individual.
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=9245040&S=31&N=43&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=9245040&T=P&S=31

Incoming passenger list to Fremantle "Asturias" arrived 28 February 1949
(page 31 of 43)
LEWIS, Mrs Alice age 38      Sylvia Vale Stud, Binda, via Crookwell
NAME OF A CHILD REMOVED.


JM
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: majm on Saturday 12 September 20 23:30 BST (UK)
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=9245040&S=31&N=43&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=9245040&T=P&S=31

Incoming passenger list to Fremantle "Asturias" arrived 28 February 1949
(page 31 of 43)
LEWIS, Mrs Alice age 38      Sylvia Vale Stud, Binda, via Crookwell
LEWIS, Mstr G******* J**** age 6

Thank you for promptly modifying your post to remove the given names for the young passenger. 

JM
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: cupoflife on Saturday 12 September 20 23:35 BST (UK)
Thanks for picking that up JM  ;)
Her age also does not fit if she was widowed in 1925, so this appears to a be different LEWIS mother and son.
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: majm on Sunday 13 September 20 00:51 BST (UK)
Yes,  I was surprised when you posted those naa.gov.au arrival details -  not to worry,  the LEWIS surname continues to be popular in rural and regional NSW, but our OP's person of interest.... her maiden name is rare in NSW.

JM
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: majm on Sunday 13 September 20 00:57 BST (UK)
I am on my E reader, so I cannot do live links, but there is a thread from 2008 about Alice Jane.  Her mum died in Pennant Hills NSW. 

JM
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: majm on Sunday 13 September 20 02:06 BST (UK)
Thread on completed Australia board :

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=323867.0

JM
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: majm on Sunday 13 September 20 02:28 BST (UK)
Do you  have  Jane Smith Durward's actual  date of  death ?  AS  stated  you would be able to ask SKS to look at  the newspaper for her death or funeral notice

Jenn

Following from that 2008 suggestion re a lookup via Ryerson (so pre-dates the digitisation of the SMH for Trove ... )

Sydney Morning Herald 15 May 1947. Funeral Notice for Jane Smith DURWARD, dearly beloved mother of Mary, Alice and Bella.  Aged 86 years.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18026340 

ADD, I have not found a probate notice.

JM
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Jamjar on Sunday 13 September 20 06:55 BST (UK)
The only way to be sure is to get a transcription of the Alice Jane death certificate.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Kloumann on Sunday 13 September 20 09:40 BST (UK)
On Alice Jane's husband's death notice, there is no mention of a son.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99W-FDDD?i=5875&cc=2001136&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2DS-W511
Title: Re: Death / obituary notice
Post by: Kloumann on Sunday 13 September 20 12:22 BST (UK)
Have checked Richard's brothers for possible children

One was a GP in Wales & never married.

One moved to London & died 1932. His probate makes no mention of a Geoffrey.

Correction.... The one who died in 1932 was wrong age, born circa 1851