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Title: I need help with Noah
Post by: oldhippy on Saturday 12 September 20 12:57 BST (UK)
Could you please tell me who is Noah Hambling with as house keeper/ residing.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 September 20 13:03 BST (UK)
Mrs Ayers?
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: oldhippy on Saturday 12 September 20 13:10 BST (UK)
Thanks. Looks like Noah didn't marry.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 September 20 13:14 BST (UK)
Why do you think Noah didn't marry?
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: JenB on Saturday 12 September 20 13:19 BST (UK)
Walter is with Mrs Ayers.

Noah is his father. I canít see anything on the document to suggest that Noah is residing with Mrs Ayers.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 September 20 13:20 BST (UK)
That's what I was thinking too - Walter is living with Mrs Ayers.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 September 20 13:36 BST (UK)
From another post from OP
Walters Brother George
HAMBLING, GEORGE       mmn MILLIGAN 
GRO Reference: 1841  Dec Quarter in IPSWICH  Volume 12  Page 323

Marriage image on family search between Noah & Elizabeth in 1832 - Noah was a widower
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNNJ-6TK
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: oldhippy on Saturday 12 September 20 14:10 BST (UK)
I was thinking because her name is down as Mrs Ayers and not her first name that they might be living together but not married as I can't find a marriage certificate. Do you think I'm right or wrong. 
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: JenB on Saturday 12 September 20 14:13 BST (UK)
I was thinking because her name is down as Mrs Ayers and not her first name that they might be living together but not married as I can't find a marriage certificate. Do you think I'm right or wrong.

Do you mean Walter was living with Mrs Ayers? He'd hardly admit to that on his Banns of Marriage!
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 September 20 14:24 BST (UK)
Mrs Ayers could be the owner of the property and Walter is her lodger.

Have you found them all in 1861/1871? Was Mrs Ayers at that address?
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: JenB on Saturday 12 September 20 14:47 BST (UK)
Mrs Ayers could be the owner of the property and Walter is her lodger.

That's how I read it.

Walter, whose father's name is Noah, is lodging with Mrs Ayers.

I can't see any implication whatseover in the document that either Walter or Noah are 'living' with Mrs Ayers.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: oldhippy on Saturday 12 September 20 15:13 BST (UK)
No. Its because Noah is down as his parent or guardian.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: JenB on Saturday 12 September 20 15:19 BST (UK)
No. Its because Noah is down as his parent or guardian.

Isn't Noah his father?
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 September 20 15:34 BST (UK)
Walter Hambling
Born 31 May 1839
Baptism 31 Oct 1841
Ipswich, St Peter
Father Noah
Mother Elizabeth
Father's occupation Innkeeper
Residence   Ipswich
Brother George baptised same day
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 12 September 20 15:42 BST (UK)
1851 Noah is with wife Elizabeth plus children including Walter
HO107/1799 Folio 97 Page   13 - Bridge Street, Ipswich

1861 Noah is with wife Elizabeth and some of their children at Red Lion, St Peters St, Ipswich
RG09/1162 Folio 4 Page 3

Noah & Elizabeth are still at that address in 1871.
RG10/1750 Folio 58 Page 3

Deaths Jun qtr 1875 
HAMBLING    Elizabeth    age 70   
Ipswich    4a   414

Deaths Jun qtr 1879   
Hambling    Noah    age 78   
Ipswich    4a   423
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: JenB on Saturday 12 September 20 15:44 BST (UK)
No. Its because Noah is down as his parent or guardian.

Sorry, but I really donít understand what youíre saying  :-\

Walter is getting married. Heís been asked what his fatherís name is, and has stated that itís Noah.
Title: Re: I need help with Noah
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 12 September 20 15:50 BST (UK)
 ;D

The form relates to Walter - asking for Walter's details eg who he resides with = Mrs Ayers could be his landlady (living there 18 months - near St Peter's church) - asks for father's details because of age (although he is over 21) - Noah has nothing to do with Mrs Ayers.