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Title: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: weirdwizard56 on Tuesday 15 September 20 13:32 BST (UK)
I am looking for my 3 * great grandfather John who married Mary McKenzie in 1833 in Strathblane.  According to the register he was a native of Blanefield, so I am looking for his ancestors?
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 15 September 20 18:06 BST (UK)
What else do you know about him? For instance, what were the names of his children and when and where were they born?

Did he die in Scotland? Because if so his death certificate, available online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, should tell you the names of his parents.

Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: Kloumann on Tuesday 15 September 20 18:25 BST (UK)
I think his wife Mary may have been born in Drymen, 1812, daughter of Donald McKenzie & Flora McMaster.

I can only find a birth of one son, Hugh, 1835, Strathblane. Were there others?
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: weirdwizard56 on Wednesday 16 September 20 07:58 BST (UK)
I am related to his son Donald, there were 2 Hugh's one born 1835 and the other 1847 and the final one was Malcolm 1943.  They were all born in Strathblane
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: ev on Wednesday 16 September 20 09:34 BST (UK)
Could this be the family in 1851 ?
Maryhill , Lanarkshire.
John McLean 37 lodger calico printer b. Maryhill Lanarkshire
Mary McLean 36 lodger b. Maryhill Lanarkshire
Hugh McLean 4 lodger b. Strathblane Stirlingshire
(FreeCEN)


ev
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: weirdwizard56 on Wednesday 16 September 20 10:43 BST (UK)
yes it is Donald was staying with her parents in 41 and Malcolm and himself the same in 51.  Wonder why did the marriage in Strathblane had him down as Blanefield?
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 16 September 20 10:48 BST (UK)
1841 Donald McLean age 2 is with  Donald and Catherine McKenzie
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: weirdwizard56 on Wednesday 16 September 20 10:52 BST (UK)
Correct as I stated earlier, it is John's parents I am after.
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 16 September 20 10:54 BST (UK)
Sorry I was a few seconds behind you in posting that!


http://www.strathblanefield.org.uk/history/history.html
From above site;
Blanefield was the creation of the 19th century when the Blanefield Calico Printworks had been in its heyday.

Doesnt say when Printworks opened though.

Trish :)

Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: weirdwizard56 on Wednesday 16 September 20 11:00 BST (UK)
Thank you Trish1120 for this other info, funny thing is I have a sister I call Trish
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 16 September 20 11:11 BST (UK)
Lovely name ;D
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: chempat on Thursday 17 September 20 07:52 BST (UK)
Have you got him in 1861 census, or does he die before then?
Have you got his death certificate, which should have information on his parents, if after 1855?

He is in a few trees on Ancestry - looks like most have very little information on  him.

Have you found Donald in 1861?
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: chempat on Thursday 17 September 20 07:56 BST (UK)
Is this mother and 2 sons in 1861, living in New Kilpatrick?
Mary McLean   46  Drymen
Malcolm McLean   16  New Kilpatrick
Hugh McLean   12  New Kilpatrick

Does it state whether she is married or widowed on the actual census image?
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 17 September 20 07:58 BST (UK)
yes it is Donald was staying with her parents in 41 and Malcolm and himself the same in 51.  Wonder why did the marriage in Strathblane had him down as Blanefield?
Because, as Trish has shown, Blanefield is one of the villages in the parish of Strathblane.

The census asks which parish people were born in, but marriage records sometimes say where in the parish people were living at the time of their marriage.
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: Kloumann on Thursday 17 September 20 08:31 BST (UK)
Looks like the Mary birth I found at reply#2 could be the correct one
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: Kloumann on Thursday 17 September 20 08:36 BST (UK)
I think that John was born in or around Strathblane but the record no longer exists. I would also expect his father's name to be Hugh.
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: Kloumann on Thursday 17 September 20 09:10 BST (UK)
It may be worthwhile contacting Strathblane Church to see if they still retain any records for that time.
Title: Re: John McLean born around 1810
Post by: weirdwizard56 on Thursday 17 September 20 11:44 BST (UK)
Is this mother and 2 sons in 1861, living in New Kilpatrick?
Mary McLean   46  Drymen
Malcolm McLean   16  New Kilpatrick
Hugh McLean   12  New Kilpatrick

Does it state whether she is married or widowed on the actual census image?

It could be however I have Malcolm aged 8 on the 51 Census and it had him born in Strathblane and Hugh 51 Census aged 4 and born in Strathblane.  I think she was a widow as I have father John deceased on Donald's wedding certificate 1864