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Title: Gretna Green
Post by: Thirsk19 on Wednesday 16 September 20 12:38 BST (UK)
I am trying to find my Grandfather’s wedding certificate to his second wife
I have narrowed the date from 1969 -1978. His name was James Murray and he lived in Langholm Dumfrieshire, I only know his wife’s first name as Myrtle
He was born in 1901 and died in 1978
I have found a James Murray and a Myrtle Thompson married at Gretna in 1972, then another James Murray and a Myrtle Smith married at Gretna in 1972
Is there anyway to check these out online
Many thanks
MG
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: ev on Wednesday 16 September 20 15:11 BST (UK)
Hi MG ,

According to Scotlandspeople those marriages have the same reference number.
Myrtle is listed under Smith and Thompson.


ev
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: Thirsk19 on Wednesday 16 September 20 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi ev,
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly
yes that does seem strange , do not know how I can move forward to find out if this is my grandfather
MG
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: ev on Wednesday 16 September 20 15:37 BST (UK)
Did James Murray die in Scotland ?


ev
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: dowdstree on Wednesday 16 September 20 16:13 BST (UK)
Index on scotlandspeople would list Myrtle under the two different surnames but the same reference number if she had been married previously.

Possibly widowed or divorced.

Dorrie
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: ev on Wednesday 16 September 20 16:40 BST (UK)
If James Murray died in Cumbria England(born 19th May 1901) in 1978 , then there is a possible death for a Myrtle Murray in Cumbria in 1980(born 21st May 1909).
You would really need to order the 1972 marriage from SP to progress.


ev
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 16 September 20 16:48 BST (UK)
There is a Myrtle Smith that fits that birth date in 1939, Glamorganshire.

Possibly this marriage  :-\
Marriage Jun qtr 1938
Smith, Charles S   
Thompson,  Myrtle       
Pontypridd    11a   999
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: Thirsk19 on Wednesday 16 September 20 17:00 BST (UK)
Thank you so much everyone for your help, it is very much appreciated,now have something to work with
MG
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: BillyF on Wednesday 16 September 20 18:58 BST (UK)
I have an illegitimate gt uncle in Scotland, listed at marriage with 2 separate records, one with his mother`s name and one with his stepfather`s. I was able to view both images for  6 credits.
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: dowdstree on Wednesday 16 September 20 19:21 BST (UK)
Of course you can view certain records online at scotlandspeople as BillyF says but there are exceptions as follows  -

Births  less than 100 years ago.
Marriages less than 75 years ago.
Deaths less than 50 years ago.

For these records you will need to order the certificate direct at a cost of approx £15 including postage.

Dorrie
Title: Re: Gretna Green
Post by: BillyF on Thursday 17 September 20 18:08 BST (UK)
I realised in the middle of the night ( !!!!) that I hadn`t mentioned this. My one was in  1905.