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Title: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: DianaCanada on Thursday 17 September 20 20:51 BST (UK)
Have seen a lot of probate index entries over the years, but never one like this.  A relative died in a rural area and the entry says "last seen April 4, body found April 6".  This was in 1987, so no handy newspapers to consult online.  What do rootschatters think?  Simply that she was found dead at home or she went missing?  At first I thought the latter, but perhaps this is the standard way to record that she had not been seen for a couple of days.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 17 September 20 21:44 BST (UK)
I would guess the latter especially if in a rural area with few neighbours. 

Don't suppose there is an address given is there?  If it was her abode then she hadn't gone missing and simply died at home.  The death certificate may have more information. 
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 17 September 20 22:08 BST (UK)
I have seen an entry on the probate index that gives the address of their normal abode, the date they were last seen alive and details as to where the body was found.  They had taken their own life  :'(
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: DianaCanada on Thursday 17 September 20 22:09 BST (UK)
I would guess the latter especially if in a rural area with few neighbours. 

Don't suppose there is an address given is there?  If it was her abode then she hadn't gone missing and simply died at home.  The death certificate may have more information.

Yes her address was given, and she’d lived there for decades. 
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: Rena on Thursday 17 September 20 22:17 BST (UK)
From news reports, it seems that the official time and date a body is found is when the police attend, even if others have already found the deceased.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: DianaCanada on Thursday 17 September 20 22:25 BST (UK)
Just looked at the probate listing again, none of the people have a place of death for the two pages I checked, just their abode. In 1987 I would think a good number of people would have died in hospital, if not most. 
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 17 September 20 22:46 BST (UK)
I wouldn't think a place of death was of much importance to a probate?
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: markheal on Thursday 17 September 20 23:59 BST (UK)
I found recently a similar 'last seen alive' several days previously which highlighted the significance and legal ramifications of the accurate date of our death.   With today's high proportion of adults living alone and with no relatives, being found dead after many days, weeks or even months may become a common occurrence.

The value of the Probate record is both the address of usual residence [of:] and also the place of the actual death [at:].
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: DianaCanada on Friday 18 September 20 00:38 BST (UK)
Thank you, everyone for your input.  Barring purchasing the death certificate or reading a newspaper reference about her death, I guess I won’t know for sure what happened.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 18 September 20 07:46 BST (UK)
The probate index stopped showing the place of death in 1968.  The one I mentioned was prior to that year.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: DianaCanada on Friday 18 September 20 10:50 BST (UK)
The probate index stopped showing the place of death in 1968.  The one I mentioned was prior to that year.

This is good to know. Thank you.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: markheal on Tuesday 22 September 20 18:04 BST (UK)

Is there any age legal restriction for a child to make a Will and appear in the Probate Records?
I recently came across the death of a 6 year old on the Probate records.  He left £200 to his mother.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 22 September 20 18:05 BST (UK)

Is there any age legal restriction for a child to make a Will and appear in the Probate Records?
I recently came across the death of a 6 year old on the Probate records.  He left £200 to his mother.

Can you tell us who  :)
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: Jebber on Tuesday 22 September 20 18:16 BST (UK)
Are you sure it was a Will not an Administration. The Probate Records don't show who in inherited, only who was granted Probate or Administration. I would imagine the child was in receipt money, possibly from an inheritance, possibly held in trust. The mother would have needed Administration to deal with it.
Title: Re: Unusual Probate Index Entry
Post by: markheal on Tuesday 22 September 20 19:53 BST (UK)

Is there any age legal restriction for a child to make a Will and appear in the Probate Records?
I recently came across the death of a 6 year old on the Probate records.  He left £200 to his mother.

Can you tell us who  :)
Rosie,
I will see if I can find the record again.