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Title: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Saturday 19 September 20 15:26 BST (UK)
please can some one tell me  the cause of medical discharge disability
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Saturday 19 September 20 15:36 BST (UK)
Explanation of DAH (the number appears to be 30% which comes up on his pension ward sheet later in the papers.)

https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/what-were-vdh-and-dah/#:~:text=DAH%20means%20disorderly%20action%20of%20the%20heart%2C%20sometimes,Sir%20Arthur%20F.%20Hurst%20%28London%3A%20Edward%20Arnold%2C%201918%29%3A

Aggravated by Army Service not attributable.

MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Saturday 19 September 20 15:44 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for your reply  so heart problem.      can you tell me if you know if the men ere photographed when they joined up and if so how can you  get a copy of the photo? thank you
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Saturday 19 September 20 15:45 BST (UK)
I added to my post.

No, there was no official process of photographing individual soldiers.

MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Saturday 19 September 20 15:49 BST (UK)
Thank you Max
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Tuesday 22 September 20 14:59 BST (UK)
HI Max   can you help me again please.   i wonder  does the 1st attachment  show that he had been in the army before??
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 22 September 20 15:10 BST (UK)
It would seem so, Oct 1881 to Aug 1887.  First quick glance shows pension records for his earlier service on Fold 3 on Ancestry.

MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Tuesday 22 September 20 15:23 BST (UK)
thank you  do you have to pay to see what's on fold  3?
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 22 September 20 16:58 BST (UK)
Unfortunately - yes but I think you can sign up on a trial basis and then scrap it later.

They'll be the top two here:https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/60917/?name=_monaghan&f-F80077C6=678


MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Tuesday 22 September 20 17:11 BST (UK)
right ok thank you   i have  joined  i can see both  records  this may seem  a stupid question but does that mean he was actualy in chelsea hospital?
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Tuesday 22 September 20 19:50 BST (UK)
There are no stupid questions only gaps in knowledge to be filled :)

Army pensioners were administered by the Royal Hospital Chelsea, the vast majority were "out-pensioners".   "In-pensioners" were the relatively few who surrendered their pension in exchange for residence in the Royal Hospital.  Since the 1950s, when the Royal Hospital ceased to be responsible for the distribution of pensions, the term Chelsea Pensioner has largely replaced the term in- pensioner.  Your chap was almost certainly an out-pensioner.

MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Tuesday 22 September 20 22:44 BST (UK)
Thank you Max
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Wednesday 23 September 20 15:24 BST (UK)
Hi again max   i have googled but can't find out what this punishment means  francis  mortimor 4th battalion R.I.F 2921
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Wednesday 23 September 20 15:59 BST (UK)
The Bounty Board was an institution specific to the militia which could consider whether a man's annual bounty should be all or part withheld because he had committed some offence.  Appearance before the board appears to have been ordered here because of his lateness but no result is recorded.

MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Wednesday 23 September 20 16:04 BST (UK)
thank you    it does say deserter  did you notice :-[ oh dear
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Wednesday 23 September 20 16:23 BST (UK)
Yes, that was on 22 Oct 1916 in Dublin (still in 4th Battalion RIR).  Unless it is on the unreadable scraps of paper there appears no record of whether he turned up again.
MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Wednesday 23 September 20 16:33 BST (UK)
 well i   have had trouble finding him after that   :-\so maybe not. if they did find him would he have been shot for desertion?
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: MaxD on Wednesday 23 September 20 16:38 BST (UK)
No.  No soldier who deserted and subsequently court martialled on home soil was executed.

MaxD
Title: Re: medical discharge james monaghan
Post by: DORAN54 on Wednesday 23 September 20 16:44 BST (UK)
oh right that's good  i wonder what happened to him   thanks again for your help