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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: rihuggett on Sunday 27 September 20 19:10 BST (UK)
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My grandmother had several cousins who emigrated to Canada. They were the children of Michael Kelly and of Morgan Kelly, brothers of her father Thomas. Daniel Thomas b.1892 and his younger brother John Kelly b.1893, (sons of Morgan) are found on a passenger list emigrating in July 1913 on the "Ionian", final destination Orillia township, Simcoe county, Ontario. But I don't know what became of them except for docs showing Daniel was part of the Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force in WW1, where he refers to his wife Ellen. They may have married in England in the June quarter 1913. but I have not found her emigration, possibly with baby daughter Mary Ann. Later in March 1919 the men's mother Mary Ann b.c.1865 widow of Morgan Kelly and their siblings, Hannah b.1898, Nora b.1900 and Francis Kelly b.1904 are found on a passenger list on the "Megatama" from Liverpool to St John's, New Brunswick.
Children of the other brother Michael Kelly seem to have found their way to Canada too but I have not found them on passenger lists. A source on familysearch has a daughter Catherine Kelly, b.1887 dying in McBride, British Columbia in June 1964. I don't have access to the 1921 or later censuses so would appreciate any info on these people and any immigration and BMD information, as time allows.
If by any remote chance you are a Kelly descendant, FindMyPast (commercial website) is now putting online RC marriages and baptisms, including these above Kellys, to which I have access. So one good turn deserves another. Thanks very much RH
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1921 Canadian census free to search.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1921/Pages/search.aspx
Sandra
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Canada has quite strict privacy laws so depending where they all settled and if obituaries can be found, we may be limited in what we find.
1921 census 235 Davenport Rd Toronto North - all immigrated 1919
Mary Kelley 56 widowed.
Hannah Kelley 23 stenpographer.
Francis Kelley 17 clerk.
Sandra
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1921 census Orillia Ontario
Daniel Thomas Kelly 28
Ellen Kelly 28
Mary Ann Kelly 7
Patricia Francis Kelly 1
Ileen Nora Kelly 3
Sandra
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Could this be the marriage of Nora Kelly to John Carney - 7 November 1921 York Toronto Ontario.
Father's Name Morgan P Kelly
Mother's Name Mary Ann Ohalloran
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27D6-YMG
Sandra
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Catherine William born 1887 London Eng. Daughter of Michael Kelly and Ellen Downey
Husband Arthur Henry Williams.
Catherine Williams died McBride British Columbia 11 June 1964 (widowed)
Daughter was the informant.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLTK-RJB
Death Cert - http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/14e2edaa-c25d-4b47-b556-27ec3074a9b5
Sandra
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Husband of Catherine Kelly Williams - Ernest Arthur Henry Williams - died 29 January 1948 Kamloops BC.
Catheine Williams was the informant.
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/1afbd4bd-0f4f-4cfa-aa8f-1f4e48dccfbe
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLP8-JPN
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Ernest Arthur Henry Williams 1889 - 1948
Pleasant Street Cemetery
Kamloops, Thompson-Nicola Regional District, British Columbia, Canada
PLOT Section L, Lot 12, Row 9, Sub Lot N.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/89186795/_
Sandra
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Patricia Frances Kelly/Howe - 14 October 1919 - 17 October 2002 Burlington Ontario.
husband James Howe - 1920 - 1994
son Robert Patrick Howe - 1949 - 2007 Burlington Ontario
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LVQ3-H8Q/patricia-francis-kelly-1919-2002
Sandra
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Anc tree - David (Daniel) Thomas Patrick Kelly 1892–1988
birth 12 October 1892 - Battersea District, Surrey Co, London.
died 24 February 1988 - Newmarket, York Co, Ontario.
Ellen (Nell) Kelly 1893–1971
birth 2 March 1893 - District Camberwell, Surry Co, London, England
died October 1971 Collingwood, Simcoe, Ontario.
Desmond Thomas Kelly 1923–2004
born 2 February 1923 - Toronto, York Co, Ontario, Canada
died 7 October 2004 - Barrie, Ontario, Canada.
Daniel Paul Kelly - 1929 - 2012 Prince George British Columbia. Obit below.
also the following children for this couple.
Thomas Kelly 1931 - 1931
Paddy Kelly 1933 - 1933
John Kelly 1936 - 1937
Nora Kelly died May 2008 (no further info)
Sandra
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Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid
http://ocfa.islandnet.com/
KELLY, David (h/o Ellen) St Mary's Roman Catholic, Collingwood Simcoe Nottawasaga SM-N-3566
KELLY, Ellen (w/o David) St Mary's Roman Catholic, Collingwood Simcoe Nottawasaga SM-N-3566
Sandra
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Dr Dan Kelly - 1929 - 2012
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/princegeorgecitizen/obituary.aspx?n=dan-kelly&pid=155736100
Sandra
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Daniel Kelly Jnr - 1955 - 2013 - son of the Dan Kelly above
Published in The Prince George Citizen on Feb. 1, 2013.
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/princegeorgecitizen/obituary.aspx?n=daniel-paul-kelly&pid=162771048
Sandra
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Hi,
There is a notice in the Toronto Star, 28 April 1955, page 36...
Eileen Kelly entertained at a tea in honour of her mother Mrs Morgan Patrick Kelly, on the occasion of her 90th birthday. Mrs William Nicholson and Mrs John Kelly poured tea, assisted by Mrs Frank Kelly and Mrs Philip Aldridge.
A family dinner was also held at the St. Regis. There is a list of out of town guests. It is likely that many of these are family members. I am not sure who is still living, so I will use initials here.
Mrs C Richardson, Mr and Mrs F Richardson, Mr and Mrs W Macdonald, M Macdonald - of Orillia;
Mr and Mrs Daniel Thomas Kelly, Mr and Mrs Daniel Paul Kelly, Desmond Kelly, Mr and Mrs F Tindall - of Barrie
Mr and Mrs G Carney of Hamilton
Mr and Mrs H Watson of Woodstock
Mr and Mrs P Kelly of Ajax
RK
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Obituary for Philip Leslie Aldridge in the Toronto Star 9 Feb 1998 page C6...
It says he was a WW2 Navy Veteran. Died at York County Hospital in Newmarket on Feb 8 1998 at the age of 83. Husband of Nora Aldridge, nee Kelly, of Franklin Beach. Father of D, M, L, N and S. Grandfather of 11 named grandchildren.
RK
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Obituary for Nora E Aldridge nee Kelly in the Toronto Star 18 May 2007, page B10...
it says she died in Sutton on May 16 2007, in her 86th year. Wife of the late Philip Leslie Aldridge. Mother of D Aldridge (wife G), M Swan, P L Aldridge, N Walmsley, and S Newark (husband M). 10 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren (not named here). Missed by brother Daniel Kelly (wife J) and sister in law S Aldridge.
RK
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Obituary for Mary Cronin, nee Kelly, in the Toronto Star, 18 July 2005, page B6
It says she died in Sutton on 14 July 2005 at age 91. Sister of Nora Aldridge and Dr Dan Kelly. Predeceased by sister Patricia Howe and brother Desmond Kelly.
RK
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Obituary for Daniel Thomas Kelly in the Toronto Star 25 Feb 1988, page F16.
It says he was a veteran of WW1 - 58th Battalion. He died in Newmarket on 24 Feb 1988. He was in his 96th year. Husband of the late Ellen Kelly. Father of Mary Cronin of Jackson's Point, Patricia Howe of Burlington, Nora Aldridge of Jackson's Point, Desmond of Barrie, and Dr Daniel Kelly (D. MISS) of Kelowna BC. 26 grandchildren, 49 great grandchildren, 2 great great grandchildren. Brother of Molly MacDonald of Orillia, Eileen Kelly of Jackson's Point and Nora McGhee of Toronto. Predeceased by Margaret Richardson, John and Frank. Interment St. Mary's Cemetery, Collingwood.
RK
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Obituary for Mary Ann (Molly) MacDonald, nee Kelly, in the Toronto Star, 2 march 1990 page B10.
It says she died on Feb 28 1990 in her 101st year. Wife of the late Daniel. Mother of B and his wife A. Grandmother of 3. 12 great grandchildren, 3 great great grandchildren. Sister of Eileen Kelly and Nora McGhee.
RK
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I was wondering where Eileen, daughter of Morgan Kelly fit in....she is Hannah Ellen...
Obituary for Eileen (Hannah Ellen) Kelly - Toronto Star, 8 May 1999, page C10. It says that she was born 28 May 1898 in London, England. She died in Toronto on 3 May 1999. Daughter of the late Morgan and Mary Ann Kelly. Predeceased by sisters Margaret, Molly and Nora and by brothers Daniel, John and Frank. Survived by sister in law Margaret Kelly of Edmonton and numerous nieces and nephews to 4 generations. Interment Holy Cross Cemetery, Thornhill.
RK
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Could this be the marriage of Nora Kelly to John Carney - 7 November 1921 York Toronto Ontario.
Father's Name Morgan P Kelly
Mother's Name Mary Ann Ohalloran
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27D6-YMG
Sandra
John Carney died 11 June 1933 in Toronto. The death certificate is on familysearch. Wife Nora A Carney of Orillia is the informant.
I am not sure when Nora married Mr McGhee...
RK
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Catherine William born 1887 London Eng. Daughter of Michael Kelly and Ellen Downey
Husband Arthur Henry Williams.
Catherine Williams died McBride British Columbia 11 June 1964 (widowed)
Daughter was the informant.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLTK-RJB
Death Cert - http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/14e2edaa-c25d-4b47-b556-27ec3074a9b5
Sandra
Here is the death cert of her husband Ernest Arthur Henry Williams - Kamloops, 1948
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/1afbd4bd-0f4f-4cfa-aa8f-1f4e48dccfbe
RK
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Well done RK. Wealth of information in those obituaries.
Catherine William born 1887 London Eng. Daughter of Michael Kelly and Ellen Downey
Husband Arthur Henry Williams.
Catherine Williams died McBride British Columbia 11 June 1964 (widowed)
Daughter was the informant.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLTK-RJB
Death Cert - http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/14e2edaa-c25d-4b47-b556-27ec3074a9b5
Sandra
Daughter ""K.D" (now deceased) was the informant. Perhaps this is her with a daughter in 1940)
in front of Williams Service Station Valemount British Columbia.
https://basininstitute.org/search/details.html?id=778#.X3F8xxSSmUk
Check Canada 411 for the grand-daughter "N" of Ernest Arthur Henry Williams.
married name Meyer,
Sandra
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Canadian Passenger List - Doric arriving 2 April 1929 - Liverpool to Halifax Nova Scotia - Arthur Henry Williams aged 38 years - Catherine Williams aged 38 years - Kathleen Williams aged 9 years - Ernest Williams aged 6 years - John Williams aged 4 years - Empire Settlement - miner - mother Mrs P A Williams - 77 Ashley Avenue. Cheriton. Kent.
Sandra
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Ernest Williams - 1950
https://basininstitute.org/search/details.html?id=1295#.X3GDshSSmUk
https://basininstitute.org/search/details.html?id=5217#.X3GGmRSSmUl
Sandra
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Birth of John J Williams - John J Williams
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar - Dover Kent. 01/1925
Mother's Maiden Name Kelly
Volume Number 2a - Page Number 1781
Sandra
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Birth of Ernest C Williams - Ernest C Williams
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Llanelly Carmarthenshire - 04/1922
Mother's Maiden Name Kelly
Volume Number 11a Page Number 2225
Sandra
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Birth Kathleen E Williams - Kathleen E Williams
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec 10/1919 Elham Kent
Mother's Maiden Name Kelly
Volume Number 2a
Page Number 2281
Sandra
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Marriage Registered September 1917
Williams Ernest Kelly Elham 2a 2607
Kelly Catherine Williams Elham 2a 2607
Sandra
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Obituary for Mary Ann (Molly) MacDonald, nee Kelly, in the Toronto Star, 2 march 1990 page B10.
It says she died on Feb 28 1990 in her 101st year. Wife of the late Daniel. Mother of B and his wife A. Grandmother of 3. 12 great grandchildren, 3 great great grandchildren. Sister of Eileen Kelly and Nora McGhee.
RK
I wonder of this was the Canadian Attestation Papers for husband DanielWilliam McDonald.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=145492
slow to load but 120 pages
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B6711-S042
Sandra
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1921 census 289 James St Orillia (Town) Simcoe. (same address as attestation papers)
Daniel W Macdonald 33
Mary Macdonald 30
Robert Patrick Macdonald 11
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1921/Pages/search.aspx
Sandra
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1911 UK Census (free index) 62 Fullerton Road, East Hill, Wandsworth S W.
(Married 2 years)
Daniel William Macdonald 24
Mary Ann Macdonald 21
Robert Patrick Macdonald 1
Sandra
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Marriage September 1909
KELLY Mary Ann Wandsworth 1d 1456
MACDONALD Daniel William Wandsworth 1d 1456
Sandra
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Ontario marriage - Robert Patrick MacDonald - 1910 England.
Age 21
Marriage Date 8 Jul 1931 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Father Daniel William MacDonald - Mother Mary Ann MacDonald
Spouse Amy Edith Baker.
Sandra
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Obituary - Amy McDonald
The Vancouver Sun Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
6 Dec 1990, Thu Page 58
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/60142179/obituary-for-amy-edith-macdonald/
Sandra
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Thanks everyone for the multitude of replies, 4 pages worth and all gripping stuff that allowed me to pursue more leads the UK end. I have managed now to incorporate all the information in my tree. The 1921 census of Daniel Thomas was particularly helpful as it showed his sisters Margaret Richardson and Mary Ann MacDonald with their husbands and children right next-door. Obviously more questions will arise over the coming weeks and I may post them up on this thread; but I am impressed by the longevity of some of the Kelly women, right up to the 100s.
One pressing question, the Mary Ann Kelly (Mrs Morgan Patrick Kelly), née Kearney to whom her daughter-in-law Ellen Kelly entertained to tea in 1955 as reported in the Toronto Star, when did she die? She was born c.1864.
Nora Kelly, I think was not the Nora who married Carney. My Nora was Nora Agnes, birth registered June quarter 1900 and aged 10 months in the UK 1901 census and 10 in 1911. I can't think of a reason to make herself older. So it is the McGhee route that may solve this. She was definitely Kelly on emigration in 1919 so she must have married in Canada.
John Kelly born 1893 seems to have gone off the map, which means he maybe died in WW1. Son of Mary Ann and Morgan Patrick, he emigrated with his brother Daniel Thomas to Orillia in 1913. Daniel's obituary says John pre-deceased him. Interesting that the name David is still associated with Daniel Thomas because his baptism on 2 Nov 1892 at Our Lady of Mount Carmel & Joseph, Battersea Park has him as David Thomas, which I thought of as pure error on the part of the church warden.
Thanks again, RH
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Could this be the marriage of Nora Kelly to John Carney - 7 November 1921 York Toronto Ontario.
Father's Name Morgan P Kelly
Mother's Name Mary Ann Ohalloran
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27D6-YMG
Sandra
Marriage was in 1921 - Nora aged 21 years (so birth 1900)
Death Cert John Carney - Informant Nora A Carney of 299 James Street Orillia
Nora was a nurse on her marriage to John Carney.
Canada Voters List 1974 - Nora McGhee - Residence Place Apt 5 Lawrence Avenue East Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Electoral District Don Valley - Retired Nurse.
Henry Mcghee - maintainance.
Information points to it being the correct Nora Kelly/Carney.
Sandra
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Yes you are right Sandra about Nora marrying John Carney. I was thrown by the incorrect maiden name of the mother. The clerk put John's mother's maiden name O'Halloran in both spaces. Nora's mother was born Mary Ann Kearney. You say Nora A. Carney was her husband's informant on death. I cannot find that date on familysearch. Do you have it please? Then I can home in on a date for her marriage to McGhee.
Thx, RH
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John Carney death on family search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKKH-KYG
Sandra
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Ontario marriage - Robert Patrick MacDonald - 1910 England.
Age 21
Marriage Date 8 Jul 1931 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Father Daniel William MacDonald - Mother Mary Ann MacDonald
Spouse Amy Edith Baker.
Sandra
a son John Angus McDonald - 1936 - 1936
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKJX-FJM
James MacDonald - 6 July 2011 - Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario,
Sandra
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One pressing question, the Mary Ann Kelly (Mrs Morgan Patrick Kelly), née Kearney to whom her daughter-in-law Ellen Kelly entertained to tea in 1955 as reported in the Toronto Star, when did she die? She was born c.1864.....
Hi,
The 1955 tea was hosted by Mary Ann's daughter Eileen (Hannah Ellen).
Obituary for Mary Ann Kelly in the Globe and Mail on 26 August 1960, page 27.
It says that she died at her residence, 2 Plaxton Drive, East York, on Aug 24 1960. Mary Ann Kearney, formerly of 315 Glen Road, Rosedale, wife of the late Morgan Patrick Kelly...mother of Margaret (Mrs C Richardson) of Orillia; Molly (Mrs D W MacDonald) of Orillia; Daniel of Barrie; John, Eileen, Nora (Mrs H McGhee) and Frank of Lakeview. 19 grandchildren, 53 great grandchildren, 3 great great grandchildren. In her 96th year. Interment Holy Cross Cemetery.
RK
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Ontario marriage - Robert Patrick MacDonald - 1910 England.
Age 21
Marriage Date 8 Jul 1931 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Father Daniel William MacDonald - Mother Mary Ann MacDonald
Spouse Amy Edith Baker.
Sandra
Obituary for Robert Patrick MacDonald in the Toronto Star, 26 Dec 1990, page C6.
It says he served overseas in WW2 for 5 1/2 years ... in the Royal Canadian Corps of Signals. He died at Sunnybrook Health Centre on Dec 23 1990, in his 81st year. Bob, husband of the late Amy Edith (died Dec 4 1990). Son of the late Mary Ann and Daniel William MacDonald. Father of M of Vancouver, James and his wife K, R and her husband R. 11 named grandchildren. 3 named great grandchildren. Predeceased by grandchildren Danielle and Robb. Aunts Eileen Kelly and Mrs Nora McGhee. 3 named sisters in law.
RK
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Ontario marriage - Robert Patrick MacDonald - 1910 England.
Age 21
Marriage Date 8 Jul 1931 Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Father Daniel William MacDonald - Mother Mary Ann MacDonald
Spouse Amy Edith Baker.
Sandra
a son John Angus McDonald - 1936 - 1936
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKJX-FJM
James MacDonald - 6 July 2011 - Scarborough, Toronto, Ontario,
Sandra
The James MacDonald who died 6 July 2011 - obituary in the Toronto Star July 9 2011, page GT9.
It says he was born July 4 1933 and died July 6 2011. His name was James Colin MacDonald. He was the Director, Scarborough Fire Department (Retired), former volunteer fire fighter, Thistletown Fire Department. Husband of K (for 55 years). Father of 8 named, living children. Predeceased by daughter Danielle. Grandfather of 7 named children. Great grandfather of 1 named child. Brother of M and R (husband R). Interment Pine Hills Cemetery.
RK
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Could this be Margaret ???
1921 census Orillia Simcoe Ontario -
Charles Richardson 40
Margaret Richardson 34
Charles George Richardson 12
Francis Richardson 10
Edgar Thomas Richardson 3
Helen Margaret Richardson 10 months
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Margaret Kelly Richardson - 1881 - 1976
Saint Michael's Roman Catholic Cemetery (New)
Orillia, Simcoe County, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727811/margaret-richardson
Charles Richardson - 1880 - 1958
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727880/charles-richardson
Jo-Jo Richardson - 1932 - 1940
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727441/jojo-richardson
Kathleen Richardson -1916 - 1916
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727470/kathleen-richardson
Jackie Richardson 1923 - 1924
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727526/jackie-richardson
Sandra
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Francis Patrick Richardson - 18 September 1912
Florida death index - Francis Patrick Richardson - 18 September 1912 - 9 December 1978
Age at Death 66 - Martin, Florida, United States.
Sandra
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Ontario Death- Edgar Patrick Anthony Richardson - 1918 - 24 April 1923 Simcoe Ontario.
Aged 5 years. Father Chas Richardson - mother Margaret Kelly.
Cause of Death Appendicitis - burial St Michaels Cemetery.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
Edgar Richardson 1918 - 1923
Saint Michael's Roman Catholic Cemetery (New)
Orillia, Simcoe County, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727495/edgar-richardson
Lots of names on this headstone inscription. Daughter Helen Bako Richardson - 1920 - 2008
husband Stratis Bako 1918 - 1970 and a son George Bako - 1944 - 1952
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102727495/edgar-richardson#view-photo=79153476
Sandra
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Thank you Sandra and RunKitty for all this info. I had found a couple of things myself that you posted up. Quite how Edgar's parents got into such a muddle with his middle names I don't know, form Edgar Thomas in the 1921 census to Edgar Patrick Anthony in the death return! The memorial inscription shows other children (Jojo, Kathleen, Jackie - boy or girl?) likely to be children of Charles Richardson and wife Margaret, née Kelly but they don't come up in my familysearch, at least. Jojo has to be John I would think.
Then there are the Kelly children of Daniel Thomas and Ellen mentioned in the obit of their brother Desmond Thomas in 2004, Paddy, Thomas and John. I have a John Peter died 1925 of 289 Jarvis (maybe James St) Orillia, informant his uncle Daniel MacDonald; but one of you, Sandra or RunKitty supplied vital dates for the baby boys as b and d. 1933 for Paddy; b and d.1931 for Thomas and b.1936 - d.1937 for John - where do these dates come from? Daniel and Ellen may have been in Barrie by then?
Thanks for all your help - RH
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Hello,
A great thank you to Sandra and RunKitty for their help in tracking Canadian Kelly relatives. I found Daniel Thomas' brother John finally as John Patrick Kelly, several WW1 pages and a newspaper article of John Patrick, wife Sibyl and their descendants in the Toronto Star. Need to track youngest brother Francis or Frank next.
One question mark remains: Daniel Thomas' wife Ellen aged 28 in 1921 was according to a correspondent on Ancestry a cousin of her husband's and they needed a dispensation from the Bishop to marry (in 1913 in the Wandsworth RD, South London; she married as Ellen Kelly on freebmd). He knows nothing else about her. Apart from 2 pages of Daniel Thomas (aka David; b.12/Oct/1892) Kelly's WW1 CEF attestation papers I have nothing on him which could shed light on his wife, place of marriage, children etc that I have been able to locate on Ancestry or FindMyPast. Perhaps you might have better luck. Certainly there is very little when compared to the vast amount on his brother John Patrick's WW1 career. Why could that be?
I have a possible death for Ellen Kelly in 1971 aged c. 78, and burial at St Mary's Cemetery, Collingwood, Simcoe County, Ontario in that year (familysearch says no photo but a biographical note which I cannot open). I have requested a photo form FindAGrave, but if you could hunt down any info on Ellen, perhaps an obituary which may give away her parentage that would be great. I have a number of Ellen Kelly's that are possibles including one born 2 March 1893 and another who was my great aunt though born 5 years later (15/Jan/1898).
Thanks in advance for your help - RH
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Glad your search is going well :) :)
I wasn't able to find an obit for Ellen Kelly d. 1971. Pretty sure it must be her in the Collingwood Cemetery ... that is where her husband is buried. Hopefully your findagrave request will provide you with a photo of the grave stone.
RK
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Hello rihuggett...
In your recent post you mentioned that you only had the 2 attestation pages for Daniel? This appears to be his complete military file, courtesy of Library and Archives Canada. It looks like he served in France. There are 82 pages altogether and it will be very slow to load.
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B5049-S048
Also, have you considered purchasing Daniel and Ellen's marriage cert to (hopefully) learn the name of Ellen's father? Witnesses might also be relevant. Should also give location.
PB
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Thanks Polar Bear for sending me the army docs for Daniel Kelly.
I was able to fill some gaps in his army career. No clue as to his 1913 marriage to Ellen in the Wandsworth RD. I had hoped that as with British WW1 docs the date of marriage and children born (all this for military pension purposes) would be revealed. You are quite right that the purchase of the marriage cert would solve the issue of her parentage. I am holding out that FindMyPast will put online the marriage details as they have been digitizing RC baptisms, marriages and burials in Britain in the last year or so (this is how I have found his baptism) but no marriage found as yet, maybe they are doing things gradually.
Thanks again, RH.