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Title: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: GillianF on Wednesday 30 September 20 07:58 BST (UK)
The 1841 census for Lidlington village is attached.  The top name is William Wright and I know he was a schoolmaster.  The faintly written word in the census looks to be that word.  Next is his wife, Martha, and then their son, William, who was also a schoolmaster (on his 1842 marriage certificate) but the word doesn't look the same as for his father.  I think it could be 'teacher'  ??

All the names below seem to be schoolchildren/pupils and written down as scholars?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 September 20 08:08 BST (UK)
Could it be 'School  Do'.  Do being ditto.   The surname has also been transcribed as 'Do'
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: Rhododendron on Wednesday 30 September 20 08:21 BST (UK)
I agree with Rosie. 
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 30 September 20 09:44 BST (UK)
It’s the same for the 15 year old Evan Davies, under the son.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: goldie61 on Wednesday 30 September 20 09:59 BST (UK)
Not sure this makes it any clearer?
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: GillianF on Wednesday 30 September 20 12:45 BST (UK)
Yes I can see the 'Do' and understand that to mean ditto.  But, William (the son) is 25 years old and Evan and the others listed are 15 years old.  William, the son, could be working as a schoolmaster/teacher but Evan and the others can't and it seems unlikely William, the son, is a scholar.

I think this may be another case of enumerator error and I'll have to apply logic and what I know from later information/census.
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: youngtug on Wednesday 30 September 20 13:38 BST (UK)
Consider that at this time it was a system of pupil-teacher used for training teachers. It also provided free staff.

      http://www.educationengland.org.uk/history/timeline.html

   https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/teacher-training/#4-pupil-teacher-training-1846-early-20th-century 
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 September 20 13:52 BST (UK)
I don't think that it says School 'Do' after Evan.  It looks as though it starts with an A, could it be short for Assistant.  He and the others are a separate household to the Wright family
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: GillianF on Wednesday 30 September 20 15:13 BST (UK)
Yes, I could see that the Wrights were a household of three and then another household starting with Evan Davies but I was assuming that the Wrights were counting their home and Evan Davies etc. were the school counting as another 'household'.
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 30 September 20 15:23 BST (UK)
What are your thoughts on Evan's occupation
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: GillianF on Wednesday 30 September 20 15:45 BST (UK)
I would say the word for Evan's occupation is the same word as for William above him.  And, I've just noticed everyone below Evan is female which would suggest a girl's school and, maybe, Evan is a teacher and his age of 15 is an error.

So, William Wright is 50 and head of the school and household.  His wife is 50 and their son, William, is a schoolteacher aged 25 with Evan Davies also a schoolteacher and then a list of female scholars?
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: Raybistre on Wednesday 30 September 20 20:37 BST (UK)
This is the 1841 census and ages of people over 15 are rounded down to a multiple of 5 usually. Therefore Evan may have been anywhere between 15 and 19 years of age. I think the occupations of William and Evan are "School Do" ie School Master.
Ray
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: GillianF on Thursday 01 October 20 06:25 BST (UK)
The 'rounding' would explain the very neatness of William and Martha both being exactly 50 and their son being a neat 25.
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 01 October 20 09:25 BST (UK)
Here is an Evan Davies, who is a school master, in 1851:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGNN-463

Jamjar
Title: Re: Confirm this occupation please
Post by: GillianF on Thursday 01 October 20 11:17 BST (UK)
Very helpful - thank you.