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Title: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 01 October 20 14:30 BST (UK)
Harry Bertram Jeffery born 14 Feb 1904 in Weymouth Dorset emigrated with the family to New Zealand 21th Sep 1906.
He married 1) Eva Emilie Anstice 9 Jul 1925 and divorced her before he married 2) Mary Edith Green 15 Oct 1943 in Christchurch.

Harry Jeffery died in 1970 in Christchurch, Mary Edith Green was born 1891 and died 1968 in Christchurch.

Any more information about these marriages and the families would be welcome.

Muffin41
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 October 20 14:37 BST (UK)
New Zealand Police Gazette -  Harry Jeffrey born 1904 England - tried Gisborne - 17/10/1925 -theft - convicted and discharged - motor-salesman - scar on right eye-brow, and on left thumb and fore finger; right little finger deformed.

Sandra
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 October 20 14:38 BST (UK)
New Zealand death index shows Mary Edith Green  - 1966 - registered Christchurch New Zealand.

Sandra
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 October 20 14:40 BST (UK)
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Sandra
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: Muffin41 on Thursday 01 October 20 14:47 BST (UK)
Where did the name
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Harry Thornton Jaffrey
come from; misspelt?

Muffin41
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 01 October 20 15:16 BST (UK)
The post above was deleted - it was a 1970 burial but perhaps not yours.  :-\

New Zealand Electoral Rolls - 1935 Tauranga Bay of Plenty -  Harry Jeffrey - Eva Emily Jeffery - Second Avenue.

Sandra
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 01 October 20 20:16 BST (UK)
Estate papers re Mary Edith.........

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C957-29RN-K?i=72&wc=4BKJ-6RM%3A1045253801%2C1602732380&cc=1865481


And those for Harry......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21796254


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 01 October 20 20:27 BST (UK)
Deaths:


1970/35255   Jeffery    Harry    67Y            ??

1966/30009   Jeffery    Mary Edith    54Y


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 20:32 BST (UK)
New Zealand Police Gazette -  Harry Jeffrey born 1904 England - tried Gisborne - 17/10/1925 -theft - convicted and discharged - motor-salesman - scar on right eye-brow, and on left thumb and fore finger; right little finger deformed.

Sandra

And yet the newspapers say he was sent to Borstal for 18 months

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=Harry+Jeffrey+&snippet=true


More detail with different spelling

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PBH19251015.2.82?items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=Harry+Jeffery&snippet=true


Added. OP’s heading is “two marriages in Christchurch” so perhaps this is another Harry Jeffrey  ???
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 01 October 20 20:44 BST (UK)
PM sent with details concerning (the then) child mentioned in estate papers......


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 01 October 20 20:51 BST (UK)

Added. OP’s heading is “two marriages in Christchurch” so perhaps this is another Harry Jeffrey  ???

Possibly ... from my sources a Harry Jeffery aged 68 died, no date given, he is in New Plymouth Cemetery, and the other Harry Jeffery aged 72, died 1940 and is in Bell Block Anglican Church Cemetery, Taranaki ... so could be one of these men.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 20:54 BST (UK)
Year of birth in police gazette is correct though. 
And divorce 1937 was in Tauranga

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19371007.2.76?items_per_page=10&query=Eva+emilie+&snippet=true

It’s a faded OCR.  Seems to say “provision was made for custody”
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 21:05 BST (UK)
Was the first marriage Definitely in Christchurch.

Eva Anstice’s father was Edward. He was a baker in Masterton from 1910 (Eva born 1908)
Elected to local body in 1927
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 01 October 20 21:07 BST (UK)
Just to keep things tidy, that first marriage took place in 1928? not 1925 as stated by the OP.....

1928/5540 Eva Emilie  Austin  Harry  Jeffery 


Also: note her maiden name.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 01 October 20 21:17 BST (UK)
There was also this marriage:

1938/8920 Daisy Iris  Hansen  Harry  Jeffery 


Same man??


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 21:20 BST (UK)
Eva’s death

1981/28580   Prime   Eva Emily   15 December 1907

This being the marriage

1937/14436   Eva Emilie   Jeffery   Phillip Ellismere Cuthbert   Prime

And just to be tidy, her birth. Reg 1908.  Dob drills down to 15 Dec 1907

1908/2008   Anstice   Eva Emily   Mary   Edward
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 21:24 BST (UK)
Death

2010/29682   Prime   Phillip Ellismere Cuthbert   7 May 1916
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 01 October 20 21:24 BST (UK)
There was also this marriage:

1938/8920 Daisy Iris  Hansen  Harry  Jeffery 


Same man??


Minniehaha.

Could be, would be a year after the divorce.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 21:27 BST (UK)
Prime/Jeffery marriage

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/BOPT19371110.2.3?end_date=31-12-1950&items_per_page=10&query=Prime+Jeffery&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1937&title=BPB%2cBOPT%2cHLC%2cOPNEWS%2cTPT
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 01 October 20 21:30 BST (UK)
There was also this marriage:

1938/8920 Daisy Iris  Hansen  Harry  Jeffery 


Same man??


Minniehaha.

If this another wife, then buried in Purewa Cemetery, died 3 June 1990 aged 81.

https://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=104933

Cheers
KHP

ADDED: Though I can't see a divorce, wonder if it is a different Harry Jeffery
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: mckha489 on Thursday 01 October 20 21:36 BST (UK)
There was also this marriage:

1938/8920 Daisy Iris  Hansen  Harry  Jeffery 


Same man??


Minniehaha.

If this another wife, then buried in Purewa Cemetery, died 3 June 1990 aged 81.

https://www.purewa.co.nz/view/?id=104933

Cheers
KHP

Suspect that is this marriage

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19380809.2.27?end_date=31-12-1938&items_per_page=10&query=Jeffery+Hansen&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1938


https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19380805.2.122?end_date=31-12-1938&items_per_page=10&query=Jeffery+Hansen&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1938
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 01 October 20 21:43 BST (UK)
You must have posted while I was adding a comment to my post, wondering if it was another Harry. ;D


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 01 October 20 21:56 BST (UK)
Further to reply #13...

Repeated:

1928/5540   Eva Emilie    Austin    Harry    Jeffery

Marriage CD shows Eva Emilie Anstice 1928 to Harry Jeffery.   Hiccup @ BDM??


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Thursday 01 October 20 23:12 BST (UK)
According to a family tree for this family, some have Austin and others have Anstice.  But we know that people copy other trees and often the info is wrong.

Why the burials can't be located.

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1970/35255   Jeffery    Harry    67Y            ??
Aged 66 – According to a tree on Ancestry, Died Christchurch, I am guessing a Cremation

Quote
1966/30009   Jeffery    Mary Edith    54Y
I am guessing again another Christchurch Cremation

Eva Emilie Jeffery
1908 – 7 Aug 1981 Bay of Plenty Crematorium, Tauranga

Quote
Was the first marriage Definitely in Christchurch.
Knox Church, Masterton .. taken from a tree

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 02 October 20 01:35 BST (UK)
Hello Muffin41,

Do you want more family contact details? as I have these in hand. Just need a couple of days.  :)


Minniehaha.

Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Friday 02 October 20 01:43 BST (UK)
Mentioned in her father's probated will [1945] as Eva Emily Prime......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23136353&digital=yes

Added:Just out of curiosity, is this the father of your Harry?

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19410714.2.4?items_per_page=10&page=2&phrase=2&query=+harry+jeffery&snippet=true

1941/22205   Jeffery   Bertram Harry   67Y

Later:perhaps not, "a native of New Zealand"-

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/periodicals/NZPG19150519.2.2?end_date=31-12-1945&items_per_page=10&phrase=2&query=harry+jeffery&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1877&title=NZPG

Added: Confirmed by OP via PM that the above is/was the father of Harry Bertram Jeffery.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 02 October 20 12:09 BST (UK)
Many thanks to you all for your posts while I was asleep. ;D

Minniehaha; any new details would be welcome at any time as I am helping a newcomer to family research. ;)

Muffin41

Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: Muffin41 on Friday 02 October 20 13:24 BST (UK)
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Was the first marriage Definitely in Christchurch.

Eva Anstice’s father was Edward. He was a baker in Masterton from 1910 (Eva born 1908)

The details that I have now are that the marriage between Eva Emilie Anstice and Harry Bertram Jeffery was at the Knox church, Masterton 9 Jul 1925.

Where is Masterton? :-\

Muffin41
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: Fresh Fields on Friday 02 October 20 20:27 BST (UK)
Morning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterton

In the North Island, above Wellington.  So not the South Island.

Alan.
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: minniehaha on Saturday 03 October 20 06:18 BST (UK)
Belatedly I now find there is much information about this family on an earlier Rootschat topic, including a couple of lengthy posts by a son of Harry Jeffery.

[This topic also by Muffin41]...

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=748273.36

Muffin41: for further information, may I suggest that you contact the poster @ reply #40 at the above topic.


Minniehaha
Title: Re: Harry Bertram Jeffery´s two marriages in Christchurch
Post by: Muffin41 on Saturday 03 October 20 11:25 BST (UK)
I have sent a pm as you suggested minniehaha and hope to find out more.

Once again thank you all for your help filling in the gaps. :D

Muffin41