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Title: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: James Griffin on Thursday 01 October 20 14:47 BST (UK)
I have attached a clip from the marriage register and a clip from the death register of Thomas Waller who was married to a Mary Currie.
Thomas's father was John Waller (or Wallace) but his mother's name I cannot make out on either sheet.
I know her christian name is Jane but the surname looks like it could be Husband or Hasbean but other than that I'm stuck.
Any suggestions much appreciated.

James
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 01 October 20 16:08 BST (UK)
It does look like Hasbean or maybe Hashean? on the first part but the second looks like Husband.
Carol
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 01 October 20 16:27 BST (UK)
Was this the family in 1851 living in Old Monkland?

John   Wallar   28   Sinker Pits England
Jane   Wallar   30   England
Ann   Wallar   8 England
Debora   Wallar 5   England
Hannah   Wallar   3   New Monkland, Lanarkshire
Thomas   Wallar   1   Old Monkland, Lanarkshire

As two children were born in England I wondered if this might be Debora and Ann?? :-\

 WALLER DEBOURAH     mmn HESLOP     
GRO Ref: 1845  J Quarter in CHESTER LE STREET  Vol 24  Page 41

WALLER, ANN        mmn HESLOP     
GRO Ref: 1843  M Quarter in HOUGHTON LE SPRING UNION  Volume 24  Page 179

Just a thought

Marriages  Jane Heslop - John Waller
  Jun Qtr 1842   Durham    24   95

Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 01 October 20 16:32 BST (UK)
Marriage on freebmd - John Waller/Jane Heslop  June qtr 1842 Durham 24  95

Also on FS

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXPC-LQY
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: Kay99 on Thursday 01 October 20 17:27 BST (UK)
In 1861 the parents had a son James born 1860 Parkhead, Lanarkshire which could match this birth on Anc.
James Waller
Birth  10 Feb 1860 - Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father   John Waller
Mother   Jane Hislop

Kay

Added - I think might have died in 1861 with his surname listed as Wallace
James WALLACE age 2 mothers maiden name Hyslop - Bridgeton

And his sister Deborah also married with the surname Wallace to Archibald Turner in 1867  - mother listed as Jane Hislop - but she couldn't sign her name   I have also just noticed that Thomas Waller married as Thomas Wallace in 1868 to Mary Currie

   
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 01 October 20 18:07 BST (UK)
The image of the marriage is on Find My Past

Married on 9th April 1842 at Shincliffe, Durham

John Waller, platelayer, father Thomas Waller labourer

Jane Heslop, father Thomas Heslop, pitman

Witnesses are Richard Heslop and James Douglas?
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 01 October 20 19:54 BST (UK)
There is a death for a 40 yr old Jane Waller/Hislop in 1861:

Jane HISLOP/WALLER
Age 40
Mother's maiden name KELLOT
1861
644/2 1328
High Church

Likely just after the census that Kay posted earlier from 1861.

Monica
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 01 October 20 19:58 BST (UK)
Were there any potential family acting as witnesses when Thomas married? With both parents showing as deceased when he married, you should be able to also find his father's death reg on SP. Always worth checking parents' death regs to see who reported their deaths.

Monica
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: Kay99 on Friday 02 October 20 06:38 BST (UK)
The image of the marriage is on Find My Past

Married on 9th April 1842 at Shincliffe, Durham

John Waller, platelayer, father Thomas Waller labourer

Jane Heslop, father Thomas Heslop, pitman

Witnesses are Richard Heslop and James Douglas?

I wonder if this is Jane and family in 1841 living in Shincliffe with brother Richard Heslop and father Thomas Heslop who was a coal miner

Thomas Heslop    44
Deborah Heslop    43
Jane Heslop    22
Richard Heslop    20
Ann Heslop    18
Elizabeth Heslop 10
Robbert Heslop    8
Susannah Heslop 6
Hannah Heslop    1
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: James Griffin on Friday 02 October 20 10:30 BST (UK)
Many thanks to everyone who responded - I never expected so many suggestions!
The family were living in Old Monkland in 1851 & 1861 but I can't find any trace after that.
I can't get my head around Hislop or Heslop from the 2 names on the registers which are completely different.
I will - eventually - get to the library to check who reported the parents deaths on the SP site.
Many thanks to all!

James
Title: Re: Mother of 3x Great Uncle Thomas Waller, bn 1847 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Post by: Neale1961 on Friday 02 October 20 10:41 BST (UK)
Thomas Waller his wife and six children are still living in Old Monkland in the 1881 census.