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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: jc26red on Thursday 01 October 20 17:53 BST (UK)
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Hi All
I need some help please with the above gentleman. Where did he come from and where did he go?
Frederick George Fennell appears in my tree when he marries a widow, Alice Brown (maiden name Swan), 28 Jan 1918 All Saints Portsea, He is age 25 leading Rate in the R.N. father down as John Henry Fennell a Hairdresser.
her address is 5 Gladstone Street .
Witnesses don't appear to be any connection
According to his Naval records he enlisted 1914
"Having already seen six years service in the Navy previous to the outbreak of War in August 1914, he was immediately mobilised and engaged on important patrol duties in the Straits of Dover. He rendered valuable service during the course of hostilities and in 1920 was serving in China. He holds the 1914-1915 star and the General service and victory medals
address 5 Gladstone Street Mile End, Landport"
Rank: Cook
Regiment: H.M.S. "Mohawk" and "Tergemont"
Section: Section X, Portsmouth
closest Possibilities
1901 RG13; Piece: 993; Folio: 103; Page: 6 ed 12 RD Portsmouth
there is a Frederick Fennell in Portsmouth with his parents WILLIAM HENRY FENNELL a hairdresser born c1895 Portsmouth but he is 3 years younger than I was expecting
1911 RG14; Piece: 5520
there is a George WILLIAM Frederick Fennell age 20 at HMS Excellence Gunnery School in Portsmouth R.N. Cook. his birth place is Battersea.
I followed him back but his father is completely wrong and all evidence points to him marrying someone else.
Is My Frederick George Fennell the same one as in 1901 and if so where did he go?
Fredrick George Fennell and Alice had one daughter N.P. in 1919
1939 Fareham
Alice Fennell is stating she is married and living with her daughter and 3 others (all closed)
no sign of her husband
There are 6 other Fennell children with mmn Swan in Bristol but that doesn't really add up either.
Alice Fennell died sep 1983 Portsmouth
Any help to try to unravel Alice's husband would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Jenny
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ahah!
Just found a service record which ties up with HMS Tergemont
Frederick George Fennell born 30 Aug 1893 NEWPORT MONMOUTH
he was a leading Cook
I shall investigate further...
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1901 census
John Fennell occ hairdresser b 1869 Cheltenham. Wife Amelia. Son Fred 7 b Cheltenham
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George Fennell June qtr 1892 Cheltenham 6a 425
Given his fathers occ I doubt there were many hairdressers with that name so suspect the 1892 birth is the one
EDIT
Perhaps not. mmn for that birth was Hawling and there is a George Fennell/Jane Hawling marriage 1889 Cheltenham
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Thank you CaroleW
I think that is definitely him.
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See my edit above
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Actually he appears to have been born in Newport not Cheltenham
FENNELL, FREDERICK GEORGE FORD
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 237
parents marriage
Jun 1891
John Fennell
Eliza Amelia W Ford
Newport 11a 350
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I have now found his death in 1940
thank you very much for your help CaroleW
Jenny
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You just beat me to it - just found his birth reg using GRO online and mmn Ford ;D
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Another son Alfred John Fennell mmn Ford - born & died Dec qtr 1891
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I didn't beat you, I worked the other way round and had already listed all the possible births. I had just about discounted the Monmouth one as being unlikely lol!
Poor chap went down on HMS ACASTA Jun 1940, which explains why I couldn't find him in the death index.
Alice also lost her first husband in WWI at sea on HMS Paragon
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I see Amelia was b Newport Monmouthshire - but I wonder why children are shown as b Cheltenham?
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by 1911 the children are all listed as being born Newport.
I have just found Frederick's baptism on FindMyPast ... transcribed as Frederick ALICE Fennell ;D
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DEATH OF P.O. F. G. FENNELL
REPORTED MISSING AT NARVIK
News has been received of the death on active service of Petty Officer Frederick George Fennell, the son of the late Mr. John Fennell, of 89, Tewkesbury-road, Cheltenham. Petty Officer Fennell, who was 48 years of age, had previously been reported missing at Narvik. Educated at Swindon - road School, he worked at the Cheltenham General Post Office as a telegraph boy for about two years before joining the Navy at the age of 16.
GREAT WAR SERVICE He served throughout the Great War, retiring in 1935 with the rank of petty officer after 22 years' service. He was called up at the outbreak of the present war, and served for some time in H.M.S. Hood, before being transferred to H.M.S. Aster, in which he was serving at the time of his death. Shortly after the last war Petty Officer Fennell married Mrs. Cissie Swann, and on his retirement made his home at Portsmouth:
FENNELI- May 23, 1939 John Fennell, late 89 Tewkesbury-road, aged 70. —Funeral Saturday, 10.30, from 31 Swindon street.
On December 31st.[1936] at General Hospital, Cheltenham, Amelia, beloved wife of Jack Fennell, 89 Tewkesbury-road.
FATAL STREET FALL Inquest On Cheltenham Woman An elderly woman's fall in the street which led to her death was described at a Cheltenham inquest on Tuesday. The Coroner (Mr. J. D. Lane) held the inquiry on Mrs. Eliza Amelia Fennell, aged 63, of 89 Tewkesbury-road, Cheltenham, and he returned a verdict of accidental death. A son, William John Fennell, of Depot House, St. James'-street, Cheltenham, said that his mother had told him that on December 12 she went out shopping and had slipped as she was crossing Worcester-street. She complained of a pain in her thigh, and on the day following the accident she was taken to Cheltenham General Hospital, where she died on December 31 (1936] Mr. James Betts, a lodger with Mr. and Mrs. Fennell, said he warned Mrs. Fennell before she went out that the road was very slippery. In a short while she was brought back to the house by two women and was subsequently put to bed. She told him that she had slipped. Dr. Thomas Maurig Williams, house surgeon at Cheltenham General Hospital, said Mrs. Fennell had a fracture of the right thigh and was suffering from broncho-pneumonia when he saw her on December 30. She was then dying. Death was due to broncho-pneumonia brought on by the fracture.