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Title: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: kenandjulie on Friday 02 October 20 13:39 BST (UK)
Can someone help.? I am looking for information on electoral rolls for Arthur and Beatrice Irene Vicary living in Bulli.  Beatrice and Arthur marrieds in Bulli in 1940. Arthur 17 Mar 1998 and Beatrice died 31 Oct 1998 both at Bulli. Or any information on them. Beatrice's parents were James Williams and Mary Ann (Nee Matravers) Oh! Beatrice born Dec 1919 Blaenafon Monmouthshire, Wales
Thanks Ken
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 02 October 20 16:16 BST (UK)
10307/1940 VICKERY Arthur to WILLIAMS Beatrice Irene BULLI
Wedding write-up, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article133005207

VICKERY Arthur Death notice 17MAR1998 Death 79 late of Woonona Illawarra Mercury 18MAR1998
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60270857/arthur-vickery

VICKERY Beatrice (Beat) Death notice 31OCT1998 Death 79 late of Woonona Illawarra Mercury 02NOV1998
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/60270858/beatrice-irene-vickery

Arthur awarded silver medal, 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136540158

Photo of Arthur, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136456169

He was at 10 Liddell St, Woonona in 1848, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136458179
Google street view: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01px2/

Is this the mother?:

WILLIAMS Mary Ann Death notice 15JUL1984 Death 91 late of Woonona Illawarra Mercury 17JUL1984

Was her sister Doreen, or Dulcie

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: kenandjulie on Friday 02 October 20 17:34 BST (UK)
Hello Jamjar.
it is certainly her mother, Beatrice also had a brother by the name of William George Williams born Blaenafon,  Monmouthshire. Wales.

Best
Ken
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Friday 02 October 20 17:37 BST (UK)
Hello Jamjar.
it is certainly her mother, Beatrice also had a brother by the name of William George Williams born Blaenafon,  Monmouthshire. Wales.

Best
Ken

WILLIAMS, WILLIAM  GEORGE mmn MATRAVERS 
GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in ABERGAVENNY  Volume 11A  Page 90

WILLIAMS, MARIAN  DOREEN mmn MATRAVERS 
GRO Reference: 1918  J Quarter in BEDWELLTY  Volume 11A  Page 104
WILLIAMS, MARIAN  DOREEN 0 
GRO Reference: 1918  D Quarter in BEDWELLTY  Volume 11A  Page 141
The name is a links to the daughter in Australia.

WILLIAMS, BEATRICE  IRENE mmn MARTRAVERS 
GRO Reference: 1919  D Quarter in ABERGAVENNY  Volume 11A  Page 106

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: kenandjulie on Friday 02 October 20 18:02 BST (UK)
Jamjar. Can you give me any info on William George i lose him after they have gone to Australia and can you give me any info on the sister, i was totally unaware that they had a child born in Australia.The info you have already given are gems. Do you have a buriel for Mary Ann Williams?

Much appreciated thank you, thank you.
Best

Ken
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 03 October 20 01:34 BST (UK)
Nothing more, except:

27878/1946 BOOTS Ronald Leslie to WILLIAMS Doreen May BULLI

Died QLD, 2013: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193144709/doreen-mary-boots

Her husband and a daughter:

BOOTS Ronald Leslie Funeral notice 22APR1999 Funeral late of Macgregor Courier Mail (Brisbane) 21APR1999

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193144710/ronald-leslie-boots

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193144707/lynette-boots

Hemmant Cemetery Lawn 6 1272
BOOTS Ronald Leslie age 76 birth 5-3-1923 death 17-4-1999
BOOTS Doreen Mary age 90 birth 21-1-1923 death 25-10-2013 date of service 10-11-2013
BOOTS Lynette age 19 date of service 10-5-1978

When did the family arrive in Australia, sometime between 1918 and 1923?

When did James die? What were his parents’ names?

White Pages shows 1 VICKERY still in BULLI.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: majm on Saturday 03 October 20 02:58 BST (UK)
Can someone help.? I am looking for information on electoral rolls for Arthur and Beatrice Irene Vicary living in Bulli.  Beatrice and Arthur marrieds in Bulli in 1940. Arthur 17 Mar 1998 and Beatrice died 31 Oct 1998 both at Bulli. Or any information on them. Beatrice's parents were James Williams and Mary Ann (Nee Matravers) Oh! Beatrice born Dec 1919 Blaenafon Monmouthshire, Wales
Thanks Ken

If the surname was VICERY then likely Arthur was an Ironworker as per possible electoral roll listings to as recently as 1980.


Add and thats a typo from me ...,  VICKERY is listed on Bulli electoral rolls.
JM
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: majm on Saturday 03 October 20 03:03 BST (UK)
 ::) ::) ::)
VICKERY

JM
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 03 October 20 03:08 BST (UK)
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VICKERY

JM

 ;D ;D

Can you see James and Mary Ann, JM?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 03 October 20 03:34 BST (UK)
The most likely for the parents of Arthur are Percy George VICKERY and Florence Muriel (nee HOLMES) who married in NSW in 1913

Percy G Vickery   Florence M Holmes 191at Woonona, New South
Reg3974

The digitised record shows her father to be John William HOLMES and mother (deceased) Jane  BEEBY. Florence was born in Glasgow and 19 years at marriage.

Percy was the son of Giles ViICKERY (deceased) and Jane WILLIAMSON. He was a miner born in St Peters NSW and aged 27

The reason I am thinking they are the parents is that Florence lived at 45 Underwood Street Corrimal in 1937 which is the street address (minus the number) mentioned in the wedding announcement.

However I cannot see a birth registered for Arthur or the sister Emily mentioned in the same marriage announcement.

Sue

Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 03 October 20 03:37 BST (UK)
Parents: 3974/1913 VICKERY Percy G and HOLMES Florence M WOONONA
Deaths:
8689/1966 VICKERY Percival George parents GILES and JANE BULLI
VICKERY Percival George Death notice 31MAR1966 Death 80 late of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 01APR1966
200738/1976 VICKERY Florence Muriel parents JOHN WILLIAM and JANE
VICKERY Florence Muriel Death notice 14APR1976 Death 83 at Garrawarra Hospital, formerly of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 15APR1976

42163/1913 Florence Freda - married 5851/1933 WILSON Harold E
Deaths:
201655/1978 WILSON Harold Ernest parents HAROLD OSCAR and ELIZABETH
WILSON Harold Ernest Death notice 17AUG1978 Death 72 late of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 18AUG1978
WILSON Florence Freda (Flo) Death notice 29OCT2016 Death 102 late of Warwick Warwick Daily News 01NOV2016
Write-up: http://freetimes.com.au/stories/2016-11-09/a-long-and-loving-life/

30801/1916 James Percy - married 26197/1944 BELL Dorothy Eileen - died 71354/1973
VICKERY James Percy Death notice 22OCT1973 Death 57 late of Wollongong Sydney Morning Herald 23OCT1973
VICKERY Dorothy Eileen (Dot) Death notice 02MAR2011 Death 89 formerly of Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 04MAR2011

24500/1918 Arthur

35184/1920 Emily
Married: 9518/1940 MCLEOD Donald Douglas to VICKERY Emily WOLLONGONG
Wedding, has him as Ronald, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article133001877

Possibly the flower girl mentioned in above wedding notice:
VICKERY Amy Louise Death notice 23SEP1990 Death 57 at United States of America, formerly of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 24SEP1990

15410/1951 NAY Terrence Patrick to VICKERY Gladys WOLLONGONG
Deaths:
NAY Gladys Death notice 29AUG2005 Death 75 Illawarra Mercury 31AUG2005
NAY Terrence Patrick Death notice 10JUL2007 Death 81 Illawarra Mercury 12JUL2007

Possible marriage and death of the brother George:

4270/1948 VICKERY George to DEEGAN Joan Veronica

VICKERY George Death notice 20NOV1995 Death 70 late of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 21NOV1995   

VICKERY George Funeral notice 22NOV1995 Funeral Illawarra Mercury 22NOV1995   

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 03 October 20 04:04 BST (UK)


Well shows you can't rely on Ancestry!

I still cannot locate the births of Arthur and Emily VICKERY until I go to NSW BMD  :o

Sue

Parents: 3974/1913 VICKERY Percy G and HOLMES Florence M WOONONA
Deaths:
8689/1966 VICKERY Percival George parents GILES and JANE BULLI
VICKERY Percival George Death notice 31MAR1966 Death 80 late of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 01APR1966
200738/1976 VICKERY Florence Muriel parents JOHN WILLIAM and JANE
VICKERY Florence Muriel Death notice 14APR1976 Death 83 at Garrawarra Hospital, formerly of Corrimal Illawarra Mercury 15APR1976

30801/1916 James Percy - married 26197/1944 BELL Dorothy Eileen - died 71354/1973
VICKERY James Percy Death notice 22OCT1973 Death 57 late of Wollongong Sydney Morning Herald 23OCT1973
VICKERY Dorothy Eileen (Dot) Death notice 02MAR2011 Death 89 formerly of Wollongong Illawarra Mercury 04MAR2011

24500/1918 Arthur

35184/1920 Emily
Married: 9518/1940 MCLEOD Donald Douglas to VICKERY Emily WOLLONGONG

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 03 October 20 08:16 BST (UK)
Jamjar. Can you give me any info on William George i lose him after they have gone to Australia and can you give me any info on the sister, i was totally unaware that they had a child born in Australia.The info you have already given are gems. Do you have a buriel for Mary Ann Williams?

Much appreciated thank you, thank you.
Best

Ken
There is an Australian ww2 military enlistment record for a chap who is possibly your  William George WILLIAMS.

Here is the index details
https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=795922&c=WW2

So born in the right year and right place.

He is on the electoral rolls in Launceston Tasmania with one Thora WILLIAMS.

Address 57 George St, Launceston.
He is  music teacher.

They are at this address from 1943 to 1954.

Sue
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 03 October 20 08:29 BST (UK)
The couple are interred at Carr Villa Cemetery

Thora WILLIAMS
Birth   1919
Death 13 Sep 1970 (aged 50–51)
Burial  Carr Villa Memorial Park
Launceston, Launceston City, Tasmania, Australia
Plot   Monumental, Section D6, 109

William George WILLIAMS
Birth   1915
Death 20 Oct 1997 (aged 81–82)
Burial Carr Villa Memorial Park
Launceston, Launceston City, Tasmania, Australia
Plot   Monumental, Section D6, 109

Sue
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 03 October 20 08:55 BST (UK)
Thora was probably nee SWANN.

Bit of guesswork here!

Here in 1950 a family gathering to celebrate her parents' wedding anniversary. She attends as Mrs W G Williams of Launceston.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/26719846

Here in younger days, she is bridesmaid at her brother's marriage in 1936 in New Norfolk Tas
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/91808513

Sue
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: kenandjulie on Saturday 03 October 20 11:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jamjar and Sue.
 I really do appreciate your help, it's very difficult trying to access Australian info when you live in the UK..

Thank you

Ken
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 03 October 20 12:30 BST (UK)
Hi Jamjar and Sue.
 I really do appreciate your help, it's very difficult trying to access Australian info when you live in the UK..

Thank you

Ken

No it’s not, unless you are talking about paid for Ancestry.

I do everything on an iPad and free sites only.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: kenandjulie on Saturday 03 October 20 12:39 BST (UK)
Hi Jamjar.

I did have a special offer from Ancestry earlier this year  but when the wanted the full [price i declined. Are there any free sites that you can recommend for searching Australia.

Best

Ken




Title: Re: Vicary family. Bulli. Woonona NSW
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 03 October 20 13:12 BST (UK)
BDM sites are specific for each state.

Trove, Ryerson Index, cemetery indexes and NAA.

It takes quite a bit of cross referencing at times.

Jamjar