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Hi All…
I am researching the exact birthplace of a certain Charles Brice McGregor.
If I have the birthdate (orphan - 24th June 1782 in 'Glasgow') and a baptism date, (19th of June 1827 in London) should I be able to find the names of the parents ?
Thanks in advance…, Iain.
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Iain, am I right in thinking you have a pretty comprehensive tree on Anc*. I f so I did notice you had his wife as Elizabeth McGheill. Have you seen the marriage image dated 2nd September 1805 at ST James Westminster between a Charles Brice McGregor and Elizabeth ROSS.
The baptism date you have given 19th June 1827 is that of his daughter Elizabeth.
John
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Iain, am I right in thinking you have a pretty comprehensive tree on Anc*. I f so I did notice you had his wife as Elizabeth McGheill. Have you seen the marriage image dated 2nd September 1805 at ST James Westminster between a Charles Brice McGregor and Elizabeth ROSS.
The baptism date you have given 19th June 1827 is that of his daughter Elizabeth.
John
John, it seems Iain already has this information :-\
I found another two children for Brice and Elizabeth, both baptised in London:
- Jane Elizabeth, baptised on the 20th of August 1814, father, Brice is recorded as a “serjt” in the “Guards”* and living at Tothill Street, Westminster.
- Elizabeth, baptised on the 19th of June 1827.
Brice is a victualler and living in Whitehall.”
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=831420.msg6958937#msg6958937
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Hi John..., thanks.
Forgive me..., you are certainly correct. Blimey !
Yes, it's my tree and I’ll be publishing a book about him and his/my Regiment next month. (The Scots Guards at Waterloo)
I have a friend who's working with a New Zealand film director for an update of the 1970 feature film, and because of it, Brice will certainly become a 'new-found' Scottish hero. However, I'm nearly certain he wasn't born in Glasgow. So, before 'going public,' I was doing a little research.
How stupid of me ! With him being a Freemason, I linked the two and became 'delirious.' Up every day at 04h00..., errors occur in the evenings !
Lol..., sorry for that ! Thanks..., Iain.
..., off to bed !! ;)
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Thank you Jen...
'Victualler:' In fact he was the Brigade 'publican' at the Horse Guards building. (where the two Household Cavalry Guards have their N°1 and 2 boxes)
The Tilt Yard being the target for several terrorist incidents.
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Thanks JenB for making me aware of the previous post, does help not to waste time!
Just to add Iain, Frederick James McGregor had 5 children, you have missed Henry Brice b&d 1846 and Isabella Catherine 1853 Lambeth.
John
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Thanks JenB for making me aware of the previous post, does help not to waste time!
Just to add Iain, Frederick James McGregor had 5 children, you have missed Henry Brice b&d 1846 and Isabella Catherine 1853 Lambeth.
John
Lol..., thanks John. Frederick was a tobacconist..., not surprising that through the mist of musket smoke it had me squinting... ;)
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Closure for Jane c1814
MCGREGOR, JANE aged 25
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST) IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLE Volume 02 Page 57
John
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Thank you John… I don’t merit your generosity.
I had someone in Scotland check out ‘Scotland’s People’ and he didn’t find a baptism for Brice. This is what pushed me to believe he wasn’t baptised as a child/orphan and was pushed to get it done as an adult.
Being a C/Sgt in HQ and rubbing shoulders with the Regimental Chaplin during the cremations, got me thinking.
Brice (he never called himself Charles) is absolutely no relation…, I just created an Ancestry tree for him to help with my book.
Also, researching his parents was done for two reasons. I live near Waterloo and there are yearly events (except 2020) where descendants get together and share stories. However, someone is missing out. There’s an American who apparently has him as a 3xgr but simply doesn’t want to know. Quite unusual for an American !
Also, Glasgow has enough heroes and it bothers me that some small Argyllshire town is also missing out.
Thanks everyone…